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[POLL] Which Lens for a D70 out of these three.

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Originally posted by: Monoman
okay, last questions.. 🙂

I've read hear and there but to you, would you chose the 10D or the D100 based on camera alone.

I am not on a huge crunch for time in buying my gear, just the more time I waste on debating which is better for me, the less time I could be shooting 🙂

10D would be my choice but then I prefer Canon gear.

You can get the battery pack for the 10D which would give you a larger grip and the ability to use AA batteries instead of the expensive and sometimes hard to find camera batteries. I'm sure Nikon has something similar though for their cameras.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Monoman
okay, last questions.. 🙂

I've read hear and there but to you, would you chose the 10D or the D100 based on camera alone.

I am not on a huge crunch for time in buying my gear, just the more time I waste on debating which is better for me, the less time I could be shooting 🙂

10D would be my choice but then I prefer Canon gear.

You can get the battery pack for the 10D which would give you a larger grip and the ability to use AA batteries instead of the expensive and sometimes hard to find camera batteries. I'm sure Nikon has something similar though for their cameras.

They do, both have a grip option, but it's a little out of my price range for the D100 but I cam barely afforn the new 10D so I may end up going the canon route. I will play with the 10D again today at work and see wht my self tells me 🙂
 
Relatively reliable sources indicate that a replacement 10D featuring 8mp will be available in September. It may pay to wait if you are looking to buy a DSLR. I'm curious to know if it is going to be using the same chip as the 1D mkII. That would be sweet and I'd likely consider selling my 10D assuming the replacement is in the same ballpark price-wise as the original 10D price.
 
Originally posted by: DBL
Relatively reliable sources indicate that a replacement 10D featuring 8mp will be available in September. It may pay to wait if you are looking to buy a DSLR. I'm curious to know if it is going to be using the same chip as the 1D mkII. That would be sweet and I'd likely consider selling my 10D assuming the replacement is in the same ballpark price-wise as the original 10D price.

doubt it... I have seen where they say it'll be in the 1800-1900 dollar range. We will see.
 
Originally posted by: Monoman
doubt it... I have seen where they say it'll be in the 1800-1900 dollar range. We will see.

Possible only if it has the 1.3 crop. Otherwise, there is no precedence for Canon releasing an upgraded DSLR model at a higher price point than the original.
 
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Monoman
doubt it... I have seen where they say it'll be in the 1800-1900 dollar range. We will see.

Possible only if it has the 1.3 crop. Otherwise, there is no precedence for Canon releasing an upgraded DSLR model at a higher price point than the original.

logically, that makes sense but who knows. Me being in the Mil, nothing is done logically. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Monoman
okay, last questions.. 🙂

I've read hear and there but to you, would you chose the 10D or the D100 based on camera alone.

I am not on a huge crunch for time in buying my gear, just the more time I waste on debating which is better for me, the less time I could be shooting 🙂
I usually equivocate an answer when considering a camera w/out a lens system. The glass is what will make or break your interest in the long run. Pretending that the body is the only issue I choose the 10D. The D100 in terms of product age and technical specification is actually marketed against the Canon D60; the 10D's predecessor. However, capability of the D100 brings it more closely to the strengths of the 10D. Not that closely, but closer. There are a [/i]few[/i] features in the D100 which Nikon does better than Canon between these two bodies but they're not weighing factors for me.

If there's something I don't like about the 10D it's the [relatively] slow startup and image preview time compared to the D100. For everything else I prefer Canon's methodology. Personally I find the 10D menu navigation more intuitive and the 10's button/dial/feature access felt natural out of the box. Some say the D100 is a natural fit for them but I tried both and as far as I'm concerned if it takes less clicks, fewer movements and doesn't require a significant change in hand placement to change settings on the fly then that's the system for you.

Expanded ISO range and lower noise at higher ISO in favor of Canon. The 10D weighs slightly more and that's because of the full magnesium alloy body and substantial build. It just feels like a more quality piece of equipment IMO. I actually like the 1.6x crop factor of the 10D because it gives the extra reach to my lenses. The same focal length lens on a D100 will achieve a slightly shorter reach because of the 1.5x crop factor (search in FM regarding crop factor). I care more about telephoto than WA. The closer you get to full frame (Film 35mm reference) the more effective WA lenses perform; becoming more of a non-issue with the release of better WA and third party options from all the major manufacturers.

You can get just as ardent an opinion of what feels best from a D100 owner. You've had the opportunity to handle a 10D; now see if you can get ahold of a D100 and compare what you think you prefer. Then compare the specs down the list side by side and determine which features are worth your money.

Based on specs alone the 10D is the technological choice over the D100. Based on build quality the 10D is closer to a Pro build than the D100. Based on a lens system; Canon has better performing lenses at lower expense (Nikon's pro gear pricing will kick your a$$). Eventually you're going to want the better glass even if you get what's 'affordable' now. You HAVE to consider the expense and capability of the lenses you'd like to shoot with. A couple/few years from now your 10D/D100 will still be a nice camera but you're going to be interested in the newer technology. Quality lenses will last your lifetime.

Your personal interest and perception may be different than mine so I won't tell you to buy one or the other. Just figure out what's most important to you and then save your money to do it right. Ask specific questions if you think of any. Aside from a from a spec sheet however, asking for opinions is going to get you just that; which may or may not do your own preferences justice.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You can get the battery pack for the 10D which would give you a larger grip and the ability to use AA batteries instead of the expensive and sometimes hard to find camera batteries. I'm sure Nikon has something similar though for their cameras.
The D100's MB-D100 battery grip will allow the use of AA's via the additional battery insert. Otherwise it holds two EN-EL3 Lithium Ion batterys. The MB-D100 also has a voice recording feature. The 10D's BG-ED3 battery grip DOES NOT allow the use of AA's. The BG-ED3 houses two BP511 Lithium Ion batteries. Both grips provide for vertical positioning of menu dial and shutter release.

BTW, though AA capability is nice it is ABSOLUTELY worth every penny to buy good rechargable batteries. They recycle faster and almost immediately pay for themselves. Where the AA capability comes in handy is when you run out of juice and a stop at the drug store will net you some critical shooting time through disposable batteries. NONE of either manufacturers brand or third party batteries for these cameras are hard to find. Even w/the AA's though, you're better off buying a set or two of rechargable's for the above reasons. Been there done that AND paid way too much running disposable AA's through my 550EX flash.
 
So, do you still want to know if the Nikkor ED glass is worth the extra expense?

Well, it is. If you're buying Nikon that is. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Sketcher
So, do you still want to know if the Nikkor ED glass is worth the extra expense?

Well, it is. If you're buying Nikon that is. 😉

this is generally true

BUT BUT BUT

the 70-300Ed has 1 and i repeat 1 Ed element in it, and it is not any better then the 70-300g in any way to ustify the price

the sigma is teh best of thoes 3 tho
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Sketcher
So, do you still want to know if the Nikkor ED glass is worth the extra expense?

Well, it is. If you're buying Nikon that is. 😉

this is generally true

BUT BUT BUT

the 70-300Ed has 1 and i repeat 1 Ed element in it, and it is not any better then the 70-300g in any way to ustify the price

the sigma is teh best of thoes 3 tho

well, for my Canon 10D, the sigma may/will be my first telephoto lens, along side my 50mm f/1.8 prime. Anibus, have you used that newer Nikkor 28-200 yet? I read it works like a champ.

I would like to plan out my buys, but I can't. I have no clue where this will take me! I am excited to get started and I think telephoto/macro is my next adventure 🙂
 
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