*POLL* Which GPU Cooler Should I Purchase?

[Howard]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle
Thanks for that info Griswold.

If you get the Silencer, please post before-and-after GPU temps and case temps, both idle and load. Thanks.

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle
Thanks for that info Griswold.

If you get the Silencer, please post before-and-after GPU temps and case temps, both idle and load. Thanks.

Will do but as of now I'm still undecided.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Howard
I've heard that the case temp does not change significantly with video card coolers that reuse the case air vs blowing exhaust out of the case.

You heard wrong. Using an exhausting HSF drops the temperature inside the case by quite a bit and as a side effect, also usually reduces RPM/noise of other fans (if they're temperature controlled of course) due to the lower air temperature. Speaking from experience and it was my main motivation to get a NV silencer for my 7800GT furnace.

Its really rather simple, if you want silence, use a HSF that exhausts the heat and you'll be able to reduce the amount of airflow in your case = less noise.

YOU HAD A 7800GT which used a 110nm die process and generated TONS and TONS of heat which required it to come with a close to two slot cooler.

OP HAS a 7600GT which uses a 90nm die process and NV decided since its heat output wasnt very significant it dropped the old 6600GT heat sinks on the card


NOW THINK CAREFULLY, do you honestly think his 7600GT that most likely isnt volt moded, will push that significant amount of heat in his case when the op himself said he has fairly good air flow????

Significant heat increases from cooling a VIDEO CARD usually only results by using monster cards such as the old 7800GT series and X1800XT+ classes. NOT THE OPS 7600GT

You should look at price when your deciding on a cooler. The VF900 will definitely cool better and quieter then a AC Silencer. If your case has good flow your temps inside wont go up significantly. The AC however is about 10+ dollars cheaper.

If your really that psycho about heat inside the case then go with a external mounted Radiator watercooling setup. Then all the heat including that from your CPU will be dump'd outside the system and not inside.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Howard
I've heard that the case temp does not change significantly with video card coolers that reuse the case air vs blowing exhaust out of the case.

You heard wrong. Using an exhausting HSF drops the temperature inside the case by quite a bit and as a side effect, also usually reduces RPM/noise of other fans (if they're temperature controlled of course) due to the lower air temperature. Speaking from experience and it was my main motivation to get a NV silencer for my 7800GT furnace.

Its really rather simple, if you want silence, use a HSF that exhausts the heat and you'll be able to reduce the amount of airflow in your case = less noise.

I spend a fair amount of time in SPCRs forums, the resource for low noise cooling.

I've seen several threads with users switching from the AC Silencer to the VF-700; I can't think of single instance of anyone going back to the Silencer.

As far as impacting case temp; the consensus was the Silencer made little to no difference. And these are in situations with already low case air flow, a requirement for low noise.

Bottom line; the Silencer dose not make a significant impact in case temps if any at all, and the Zalman VF-700/900 is not going to increase temps (not physically possible).

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Thanks for all the input...I think I'm going to get the Zalman VF700-Cu and a tube of Arctic Silver 5 from Xoxide unless someone knows of a better place to get both.

 

[Fallengod]

I am not sure if I know of a better place, but I know svc.com has AS5 for $5.99 with free shipping.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: modempower
I am not sure if I know of a better place, but I know svc.com has AS5 for $5.99 with free shipping.

SVC is good. I'm also partial to Jab-Tech.

Also consider AS Céramique, 22g for $7.00 is a sweet deal and will most likely last you forever.

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: modempower
I am not sure if I know of a better place, but I know svc.com has AS5 for $5.99 with free shipping.

SVC is good. I'm also partial to Jab-Tech.

Also consider AS Céramique, 22g for $7.00 is a sweet deal and will most likely last you forever.

How does it compare to the AS5?

 

[Fallengod]

They are known to have identical temps. It really doesnt matter which you get. I wouldnt even bother with the 22gram tube. The 2.5gram tube will last forever as well heh. Nobody needs 22grams imo. Its $3.99 with free shipping at svc.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
YOU HAD A 7800GT which used a 110nm die process and generated TONS and TONS of heat which required it to come with a close to two slot cooler.

Doesnt change the facts at all.

OP HAS a 7600GT which uses a 90nm die process and NV decided since its heat output wasnt very significant it dropped the old 6600GT heat sinks on the card

My reply was not in response to the OP, it was in response to the assumption that exhausting heat from the case does not drop the air temperature by much - you need to read more carefully.

NOW THINK CAREFULLY, do you honestly think his 7600GT that most likely isnt volt moded, will push that significant amount of heat in his case when the op himself said he has fairly good air flow????

Look above.

Significant heat increases from cooling a VIDEO CARD usually only results by using monster cards such as the old 7800GT series and X1800XT+ classes. NOT THE OPS 7600GT

Look above.

You should look at price when your deciding on a cooler. The VF900 will definitely cool better and quieter then a AC Silencer. If your case has good flow your temps inside wont go up significantly. The AC however is about 10+ dollars cheaper.

It does neither cool better nor quieter. I tried both, based on postings here at AT with my 7800GT furnace. As far as performance goes, they are pretty much equal, with the NV silencer having the two important advantages: cheaper and exhausting hot air. You know, you can argue all you want, I'm speaking from my own experience here with my setup and I did see what happened when using either stock, the VF900 or the NV silencer. Paired with my desire of rather (not absolutely) silent computing and given the fact that I'm not willing to shell out money for a new vid card every 6 months (I bought that 7800GT last october, at that time it was by far the best bang for the buck including the 7800GTX and the non existent ATI x1800).

If your really that psycho about heat inside the case then go with a external mounted Radiator watercooling setup. Then all the heat including that from your CPU will be dump'd outside the system and not inside.

You clearly missed the point.

 

[Griswold]

Originally posted by: Operandi

I spend a fair amount of time in SPCRs forums, the resource for low noise cooling.

I've seen several threads with users switching from the AC Silencer to the VF-700; I can't think of single instance of anyone going back to the Silencer.

As far as impacting case temp; the consensus was the Silencer made little to no difference. And these are in situations with already low case air flow, a requirement for low noise.

Bottom line; the Silencer dose not make a significant impact in case temps if any at all, and the Zalman VF-700/900 is not going to increase temps (not physically possible).[/quote]

See, the difference between you and me is, I dont just go by what somebody else said or wrote, I tried it myself. First hand experience so to speak. See my other reply.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
The Accelero S2 (I think that's what it is) will certainly have better cooling than the Silencers due to heatpipes.

The problem I have with the Accelero and the Zalman Vf900cu is that they just blow the GPU heat into the case and the NV Silencer blows the air directly out of the system.

I've heard that the case temp does not change significantly with video card coolers that reuse the case air vs blowing exhaust out of the case.

Thats so very true!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: modempower
I am not sure if I know of a better place, but I know svc.com has AS5 for $5.99 with free shipping.

SVC is good. I'm also partial to Jab-Tech.

Also consider AS Céramique, 22g for $7.00 is a sweet deal and will most likely last you forever.

How does it compare to the AS5?

ALL the As products are way over rated!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: aigomorla
YOU HAD A 7800GT which used a 110nm die process and generated TONS and TONS of heat which required it to come with a close to two slot cooler.

Doesnt change the facts at all.

OP HAS a 7600GT which uses a 90nm die process and NV decided since its heat output wasnt very significant it dropped the old 6600GT heat sinks on the card

My reply was not in response to the OP, it was in response to the assumption that exhausting heat from the case does not drop the air temperature by much - you need to read more carefully.

NOW THINK CAREFULLY, do you honestly think his 7600GT that most likely isnt volt moded, will push that significant amount of heat in his case when the op himself said he has fairly good air flow????

Look above.

Significant heat increases from cooling a VIDEO CARD usually only results by using monster cards such as the old 7800GT series and X1800XT+ classes. NOT THE OPS 7600GT

Look above.

You should look at price when your deciding on a cooler. The VF900 will definitely cool better and quieter then a AC Silencer. If your case has good flow your temps inside wont go up significantly. The AC however is about 10+ dollars cheaper.

It does neither cool better nor quieter. I tried both, based on postings here at AT with my 7800GT furnace. As far as performance goes, they are pretty much equal, with the NV silencer having the two important advantages: cheaper and exhausting hot air.
In all the reviews that I have read exhausting the hot air from the video card makes no difference in real time performance or temperatures!



You know, you can argue all you want, I'm speaking from my own experience here with my setup and I did see what happened when using either stock, the VF900 or the NV silencer. Paired with my desire of rather (not absolutely) silent computing and given the fact that I'm not willing to shell out money for a new vid card every 6 months (I bought that 7800GT last october, at that time it was by far the best bang for the buck including the 7800GTX and the non existent ATI x1800).

If your really that psycho about heat inside the case then go with a external mounted Radiator watercooling setup. Then all the heat including that from your CPU will be dump'd outside the system and not inside.

You clearly missed the point.

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Operandi

I spend a fair amount of time in SPCRs forums, the resource for low noise cooling.

I've seen several threads with users switching from the AC Silencer to the VF-700; I can't think of single instance of anyone going back to the Silencer.

As far as impacting case temp; the consensus was the Silencer made little to no difference. And these are in situations with already low case air flow, a requirement for low noise.

Bottom line; the Silencer dose not make a significant impact in case temps if any at all, and the Zalman VF-700/900 is not going to increase temps (not physically possible).

See, the difference between you and me is, I dont just go by what somebody else said or wrote, I tried it myself. First hand experience so to speak. See my other reply.

[/quote]

Ok then so I guess these forums are useless huh? :roll:

 

[Operandi]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle

Originally posted by: Operandi

Originally posted by: modempower
I am not sure if I know of a better place, but I know svc.com has AS5 for $5.99 with free shipping.

SVC is good. I'm also partial to Jab-Tech.

Also consider AS Céramique, 22g for $7.00 is a sweet deal and will most likely last you forever.

How does it compare to the AS5?

Performance is virtually the same between the two.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: GeeFizzleDizzle
Thanks for all the input...I think I'm going to get the Zalman VF700-Cu and a tube of Arctic Silver 5 from Xoxide unless someone knows of a better place to get both.

SVC.com i believe is cheaper then xoxide for the VF-700 LED at 27 dollars. If theres a frys near your location, i saw them for sale at 24.99 yesterday over there, and you would get it today.

 

[GeeFizzleDizzle]

Unfortunately no Fry's where I live.