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Ryan

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Go for the TSX (after all, it's the car that I will be getting this month).

First, it's made by Acura, which means it's a Honda at heart, and you know it will last forever. If I remember correctly, the first full tune-up is scheduled for 100,000 miles.

Second, for $28,500 you get a loaded car with a top-of-the-line navigation system.

Third, everyone and their mother will not have a TSX. It's hard to same the same about the Mustang and A4.

Fourth, it just looks cool for a sedan, IMO.

The only real dowside to the TSX is that it has a four cylinder engine. However, I must say, with 200HP, it is by no means a slow or wimpy engine.

If you can afford it, I would suggest the TL over the TSX. Now THAT is a sweet car.

With the stock rims it's MARGINALLY faster than a 4 banger Accord LX/EX sedan. The extra size+weight just negates the extra 40hp the TSX has over the Accord. It's still the same K24 engine with a few tweaks though.

I'd go for the Mustang out of all those.


Also, I just checked it out, the TSX's stock rims weight 21lbs, while the tires are 26lbs. They are 17"

The Accord EX has 16" rims - I'd say it's safe to assume that the weight difference in the tires is only around 5-7lbs, hardly enough to negate the 40 extra HP of the TSX.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Also, I just checked it out, the TSX's stock rims weight 21lbs, while the tires are 26lbs. They are 17"

The Accord EX has 16" rims - I'd say it's safe to assume that the weight difference in the tires is only around 5-7lbs, hardly enough to negate the 40 extra HP of the TSX.

If you look at the dynos, the difference at the wheels is actually closer to 30.
 

MikePanic

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you can get a 1-2 year old a4 for about 6-12grand cheaper then new... that is what i suggest, try to find an off lease used car :)
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Also, I just checked it out, the TSX's stock rims weight 21lbs, while the tires are 26lbs. They are 17"

The Accord EX has 16" rims - I'd say it's safe to assume that the weight difference in the tires is only around 5-7lbs, hardly enough to negate the 40 extra HP of the TSX.

If you look at the dynos, the difference at the wheels is actually closer to 30.

Stop diverting - even at 30 hp it still holds true.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Also, I just checked it out, the TSX's stock rims weight 21lbs, while the tires are 26lbs. They are 17"

The Accord EX has 16" rims - I'd say it's safe to assume that the weight difference in the tires is only around 5-7lbs, hardly enough to negate the 40 extra HP of the TSX.

If you look at the dynos, the difference at the wheels is actually closer to 30.

Stop diverting - even at 30 hp it still holds true.

No one in the thread said the additional wheel weight "negates" the difference in power. Only that it eats into it. That and the TSX is still ~100 lbs heavier. Those two together add up and eat into the 30 WHP difference. The TSX is still a little bit faster than the I4 accord, just not a whole lot.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: OS
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Also, I just checked it out, the TSX's stock rims weight 21lbs, while the tires are 26lbs. They are 17"

The Accord EX has 16" rims - I'd say it's safe to assume that the weight difference in the tires is only around 5-7lbs, hardly enough to negate the 40 extra HP of the TSX.

If you look at the dynos, the difference at the wheels is actually closer to 30.

Stop diverting - even at 30 hp it still holds true.

No one in the thread said the additional wheel weight "negates" the difference in power. Only that it eats into it. That and the TSX is still ~100 lbs heavier. Those two together add up and eat into the 30 WHP difference. The TSX is still a little bit faster than the I4 accord, just not a whole lot.

Time to work on some reading comprehension while we're at it: "The extra size+weight just negates the extra 40hp the TSX has over the Accord. "
 

OS

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Time to work on some reading comprehension while we're at it: "The extra size+weight just negates the extra 40hp the TSX has over the Accord. "

alright whatever. You win your stupid little pissing war.
 

Kremlar

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Personally, I wouldn't take any car advice from someone who owns one of these:

http://www.ryanbloedow.com/xB/

;)

I'd vote for an RX-8 in that price range.

The new Mustangs do look nice, but everyone and their mid-life crisis-ed dad's will own one in 2 years, and the car's sporty stance gets wattered down by the under-performing models (in my opinion).

The Volvo and TSX, to me, are just blah.

And so is the Audi without the Quattro.

The 6s are nice, but still.... for $30K I'd be going for something fairly unique and not something that everyone has.

Go a couple of years used and you can get something real nice, almost a 2001 M3.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
We're not talking about cars that are reasonably quick to begine with. The difference will mean NOTHING in real life driving, dumbass.

If that was true why'd I bring it up? That marginal difference is noticeable in real life driving. Ask anyone whose driven both or TSX owners on a TSX forum. If it's noticeable enough to b1tch about the "lack" of power then yes, the difference does mean something in real life driving.

My original wording may have been off but you certainly didn't have to turn it into a pissing contest with your lousy attitude.
 

Kevin

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The Mazda 6 is just an all around great car. Unless you want factory navigation, I don't think I would go with a TSX over it. The 6 has great bang for your buck. The tuner market is also slowly evolving so parts are coming to market.
 

RagingBITCH

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lol @ Ness' pic :)

neo - seriously, sorry about the thread hijack. Out of all the cars you listed - the Mustang is a completely different beast. It's not a sedan (obviously) and just has boatloads of power. If it's a sports car you want then by all means get the Mustang. Just think 3-5 years down the road though if that is what you want as a daily driver.

Out of the other cars - I'd still get the TSX. The 6 shouldn't even be mentioned with those other cars - yes it's a fun to drive sporty sedan, but it's not "luxury" if you can call them that like the other cars.

BTW - you look much better with hair.
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
lol @ Ness' pic :)

neo - seriously, sorry about the thread hijack. Out of all the cars you listed - the Mustang is a completely different beast. It's not a sedan (obviously) and just has boatloads of power. If it's a sports car you want then by all means get the Mustang. Just think 3-5 years down the road though if that is what you want as a daily driver.

Out of the other cars - I'd still get the TSX. The 6 shouldn't even be mentioned with those other cars - yes it's a fun to drive sporty sedan, but it's not "luxury" if you can call them that like the other cars.

BTW - you look much better with hair.

No, theNEOone posted that pic in another thread.

Here
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd like to see some TSX vs. Mazda 3 comparisons...see if the Acura is worth the $10K premium!

Edit:

TSX
2.4L 4-cylinder
200hp@6800
166 lbs-ft@4500
3230 lbs.
$26,490 (6MT)

Mazda 3
2.3L 4-cylinder
160hp@6500
150 lbs-ft@4500
2762 lbs.
$16,405 (5MT, 4-door S)

No comment on my comparison?
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd like to see some TSX vs. Mazda 3 comparisons...see if the Acura is worth the $10K premium!

Edit:

TSX
2.4L 4-cylinder
200hp@6800
166 lbs-ft@4500
3230 lbs.
$26,490 (6MT)

Mazda 3
2.3L 4-cylinder
160hp@6500
150 lbs-ft@4500
2762 lbs.
$16,405 (5MT, 4-door S)

No comment on my comparison?

Personally I wouldn't even compare the 2. The TSX is a much nicer car that offers slightly better performance.

Luxury Econobox v. Econobox :laugh: :p