POLL: What's more harmful for long term daily use, joint or a bigmac?

[TechBoyJK]

Considering what we know about the harms of smoked marijuana (won't cause cancer, doesn't impair lung function even over long term use, easy for the body to process) as well as the harms of fast food (fatty, high calories, not very nutritious), what do you think would be more harmful in the long run to someone's health?

Scenario: Two 24 year old identical twins that are equally healthy and active. Considering that they otherwise maintain the same lifestyles, who would be in worse health

Twin 1) Smokes one joint of average medical grade marijuana each day
Twin 2) Eats one Big Mac each day

Assume they both remain active and don't let either affect their routines, who's better off?

I think it's pretty obvious now the Big Mac is the worse of the 2. But I'm curious if it's as clear cut for the rest of you.

 

[KeithTalent]

Cancer or not (is there definitive proof of your claim?), I can't imagine inhaling smoke into your lungs on a daily basis can be good for you, so I vote for smoking every day.

KT

 

[Spoooon]

Cancer or not (is there definitive proof of your claim?), I can't imagine inhaling smoke into your lungs on a daily basis can be good for you, so I vote for smoking every day.

KT

Agreed. I think both things are harmful in different ways, no way to say absolutely that one is worse than the other.

It'd have made for a better case if the choice was a Big Mac vs. a tossed salad with a THC vinaigrette.

 

[Ns1]

Well if you eat the bigmac every day you'll just get fat.

If you smoke marijuana everday you'll become fat, lazy, stupid, and violent. Pretty soon you'll start beating your wife because of the crazies in your head, assuming you don't die from the cocaine addiction you're bound to get since marijuana is a gateway drug.

Cancer or not (is there definitive proof of your claim?), I can't imagine inhaling smoke into your lungs on a daily basis can be good for you, so I vote for smoking every day.

KT

 

[rcpratt]

Not enough information. For the sake of the poll, I'm going to assume that Big Mac Twin eats the exact same food as Pot Twin, except that he eats one additional Big Mac.

 

[diesbudt]

Neither...

Because a Big mac is not overly bad, and if that is replacing another meal, instead of just eating another meal (which would affect anyone eating more) then its probably just a slight gain in calories, and if they are both active 24yr olds like intended... honestly you wouldnt see much a difference in anything.

However I have a feeling that you have something against mcdonalds for choosing bigmac, than just saying some fast food burger that is around 550 calories, and not allowing a neither option, and by even having this "poll" to begin with, and you had to say "medical grade" to make the joint option seem better and not as bad as just saying "a joint"

More or less you are trying to compare apples and oranges with probably some hidden agenda at stake, which I guess is pro marijuana. And thus trying to point out fast food is worse than marijuana. Which is a faulty advertisement, as you can eat fast food and not have ANY harmful affects, as long as you are responsible with what you eat.

 

[darkswordsman17]

OP, the problem with this is that the pot twin is the one likely eating the Big Mac.

What about a pot brownie vs Big Mac?

What about a Gorilla with a knife that eats a pot brownie vs a Grizzly Bear that eats the Big Mac?

 

[rcpratt]

However I have a feeling that you have something against mcdonalds for choosing bigmac, than just saying some fast food burger that is around 550 calories.

I'm pretty sure the objective of this thread has much more to do with the weed than the burger.

 

[Vdubchaos]

It all depends how you measure harm.

Also you don't have to smoke it, Vaporizer FTW.

 

[Drako]

Smoking is obviously worse than eating.

 

[tcG]

Physiologically, marijuana is completely harmless. If anything, it has beneficial effects on the body - lower blood pressure, nootropic properties, THC is anti-cancer, etc.

Marijuana, however, is a somewhat potent psychoactive drug, and in the interest of leading a balanced life, shouldn't be consumed daily, just as ANY pleasurable thing shouldn't be consumed in excess. Doing so might cause some bad psychological effects that are common to addiction in general.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Physiologically, marijuana is completely harmless. If anything, it has beneficial effects on the body - lower blood pressure, nootropic properties, THC is anti-cancer, etc.

Marijuana, however, is a somewhat potent psychoactive drug, and in the interest of leading a balanced life, shouldn't be consumed daily, just as ANY pleasurable thing shouldn't be consumed in excess.

Marijuana is a medicine to many people (including me).

Many people NEED it every day (I don't but I know people that do). My wife's aunt has MS and cannot live without it (she would shake uncontrollably).

so to some people, it HAS to be consumed daily just like someone taking a pill for their condition.

 

[diesbudt]

Marijuana is a medicine to many people (including me).

Many people NEED it every day (I don't but I know people that do). My wife's aunt has MS and cannot live without it (she would shake uncontrollably).

so to some people, it HAS to be consumed daily just like someone taking a pill for their condition.

There are other ways to help ppl who "need" marijuana. (Need is the incorrect word)

However, marijuana having few, if no drawbacks and being cheaper and easier to administer and if not more effect than other solutions is why people use it for medical reasons.

 

[LookBehindYou]

It all depends how you measure harm.

Also you don't have to smoke it, Vaporizer FTW.

This!

 

[Ns1]

There are other ways to help ppl who "need" marijuana. (Need is the incorrect word)

However, marijuana having few, if no drawbacks and being cheaper and easier to administer and if not more effect than other solutions is why people use it for medical reasons.

the alternatives that are suggested often have worse side effects than marijuana

 

[diesbudt]

It all depends how you measure harm.

Also you don't have to smoke it, Vaporizer FTW.

You also do not have to drink alcohol. But that ruins the fun of it.

 

[darkxshade]

I voted joint because after you smoke one, you're probably going to eat a big mac

 

[diesbudt]

the alternatives that are suggested often have worse side effects than marijuana

Depends on who takes it. The effects while the drug is active could bother someone more than the other solutions side effects. This one is more or less on a person by person basis.

My mom has had MS for 20 years. She cannot stand using Marijuana as she gets more paranoid on it. Thus administers a shot weekly that works just as well. With the only side affect (outside of being more expensive) is a bruise on the leg for a day or 2 after the shot.

 

[tcG]

Marijuana is a medicine to many people (including me).

Many people NEED it every day (I don't but I know people that do). My wife's aunt has MS and cannot live without it (she would shake uncontrollably).

so to some people, it HAS to be consumed daily just like someone taking a pill for their condition.

No argument from me.

What I'm saying is that in the OP's experiment, the variable of the effect of taking a psychoactive drug daily, whatever that effect may be, is not controlled for. This might lead people to, when considering the OP's question, say that marijuana would be worse because they perceive that there are secondary, addiction related effects that sometimes happen when people recreationally use marijuana daily. My objective was to point out that these effects are psychological and addiction-related, not 'marijuana per say'-related.

 

[diesbudt]

I voted joint because after you smoke one, you're probably going to eat a big mac

and chips, and dip, and another joint, and then maybe some snack cakes, and then more chips... oh wait you are out. Go shopping and buy many more chips.

:twisted::awe:

 

[Vdubchaos]

You also do not have to drink alcohol. But that ruins the fun of it.

I don't drink alcohol.

Heck, I can't drink alcohol

 

[diesbudt]

I don't drink alcohol.

Heck, I can't drink alcohol

because alcohol affects you badly, or cant drink it? As if if you wanted to inhale it via fumes instead...

 

[BudAshes]

There are other ways to help ppl who "need" marijuana. (Need is the incorrect word)

However, marijuana having few, if no drawbacks and being cheaper and easier to administer and if not more effect than other solutions is why people use it for medical reasons.

Need is not the incorrect word. If something keeps you from misery and death it's a definite need. Saying there are other known ways to help many medical marijuana patients is misleading at the least and a blatant lie at the worst.

 

[Ns1]

Depends on who takes it. The effects while the drug is active could bother someone more than the other solutions side effects. This one is more or less on a person by person basis.

My mom has had MS for 20 years. She cannot stand using Marijuana as she gets more paranoid on it. Thus administers a shot weekly that works just as well. With the only side affect (outside of being more expensive) is a bruise on the leg for a day or 2 after the shot.

I think it's less "who takes it" and more "it depends what the alternatives are"

For one person I know, MMJ covers 5-6 different prescriptions. The 5-6 prescriptions have side effects ranging from constipation to depression. Thus, the solution to the side effects as a result of the prescriptions is more prescriptions.

 

[diesbudt]

Need is not the incorrect word. If something keeps you from misery and death it's a definite need. Saying there are other known ways to help many medical marijuana patients is misleading at the least and a blatant lie at the worst.

If there are other routes to give the same solution. It is not a need.

It is the BETTER route. But not the only one most of the time.

And most medical issues that use marijuana HAVE other methods that could help. I am not saying they are good choices over marijuana, and I beleive it should be used if the better option. But to believe it is the ONLY thing that will help is foolish. We haev so many chemicals, medicines, surgries, mad scientists out there that there is other options. Thus making it no longer a "need".