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POLL: What type of fuel does your vehicle prefer?

Premium Unleaded for me, its the 1.8T VW turbo. I can use regular 87 octane gas but my mpg drops by 10% or so. So its worth it for me to spend a little extra at the pump. I am very interested in some of the new diesels that VW will be bringing over this year.....
 
In reference to your "Gasoline with 10% Ethanol" entry, most all gasoline is oxygenated... whether they use Ethanol or MTBE.. is up to the manufacturers.

Remember, that using high octane gasoline when your engine wasn't designed for it is a waste of money.
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Maxima needs 91+ (most places have only 87,89,93). Sentra likes 87.
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ouch, mucho canadian dollars?
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Dude, he lives in Alabama.
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Yep. If I still lived in Canada I'd almost certainly own a volkswagen TDI. I had all but decided to buy one if I got a job up there instead of down here.

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb

Yep. If I still lived in Canada I'd almost certainly own a volkswagen TDI. I had all but decided to buy one if I got a job up there instead of down here.
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😀😀😀

 
Whats up with ethonal fuel? What cars use that. I see a lot of gas stations in Ontario that have them but none in Quebec.
 
Originally posted by: jsbush
Whats up with ethonal fuel? What cars use that. I see a lot of gas stations in Ontario that have them but none in Quebec.
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I'd say that 1/3 of the stations here in MI have them.
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jsbush
Whats up with ethonal fuel? What cars use that. I see a lot of gas stations in Ontario that have them but none in Quebec.
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I'd say that 1/3 of the stations here in MI have them.
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Pure Ethanol, or a gasoline/ethanol blend?

Ethanol = grain alcohol, ethyl alcohol, everclear, etc. 😉 In some states, they offer ethanol/gasoline blends, up to E85(85% Ethanol, 15% gasoline).

Preferrably, your engine is designed to use ethanol.. but any engine can be modified to use it. You cannot use pure ethanol in an unmodified engine meant to use gasoline. You can use Ethanol blends, up to 10% Ethanol, in any gasoline fueled engine.

It is also used as a gasoline oxygenate, usually in 10% concentrations.

It burns cleaner than gasoline. It is also made from 100% renewable resources. It supports the farming industries.
 
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: jsbush
Whats up with ethonal fuel? What cars use that. I see a lot of gas stations in Ontario that have them but none in Quebec.
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I'd say that 1/3 of the stations here in MI have them.
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Pure Ethanol, or a gasoline/ethanol blend?

Ethanol = grain alcohol, ethyl alcohol, everclear, etc. 😉 In some states, they offer ethanol/gasoline blends, up to E85(85% Ethanol, 15% gasoline).

Preferrably, your engine is designed to use ethanol.. but any engine can be modified to use it. You cannot use pure ethanol in an unmodified engine meant to use gasoline. You can use Ethanol blends, up to 10% Ethanol, in any gasoline fueled engine.

It is also used as a gasoline oxygenate, usually in 10% concentrations.

It burns cleaner than gasoline. It is also made from 100% renewable resources. It supports the farming industries.
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By replacing MTBE with ethanol, the American public is being asked to continue paying more for fuel (because of the extra cost of refining and ethanol), support the corn farmers, have their fuel economy further reduced and receive no benefit for their efforts.

Oxygenated fuel doesn't help newer cars (10 years old and younger) run cleaner that have proper-working emissions systems. That would include most of the cars on the road. On the negative side, ethanol oxygenated gasoline may increase NOX (oxides of nitrogen) production, a big contributor to smog. It may have a small, insignificant effect on reducing VOCs (volatile organic compounds and CO (carbon monoxide), but it does nothing for hydrocarbon emissions which are already at levels that are nearly nondetectable. New cars, with high-tech, computer-controlled engines and catalytic converters run nearly pollution free, with or without oxygenated fuel.

Until recently, the production of ethanol created an energy deficit. In other words, it took more energy to make the ethanol than the ethanol could produce. Now ethanol can be produced with a small positive energy balance of about 25 percent. It takes the energy of 80 percent of a gallon of ethanol to produce one gallon of ethanol. If you compare that to gasoline, the factor is about 6-to-1 or more. The energy contained in a gallon of gasoline will produce 6 to 7 gallons of gasoline. Making ethanol is not a very efficient use of our energy supplies.

Ethanol by volume contains only 70 percent of the energy of gasoline. By mixing ethanol with gasoline at a ratio of 10 percent ethanol and 90 percent gasoline (the formula decreed by the EPA), the fuel mixture created will be 3 percent less efficient than straight gasoline. In other words, your mileage will be reduced by 3 percent and fuel prices will go up by 7 to 12 percent because of increased manufacturing costs. With ethanol, your fuel bills will go up by at least 10 to 15 percent over nonoxygenated fuel.

The bottom line is that you will pay more for less gas mileage for a fuel that does little, if anything, to reduce emissions. But it will make the corn farmers more money. And some people in government will think they have done something good. Others will relish in their new-found power. Any way you slice it, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and bad.



 
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