POLL: What kind of video card launch do you prefer?

Lonyo

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Day Y is before day X.

I would prefer option #2. It gives you a chance to evaluate shortly forthcoming products, and plan accordingly.
Option 1 may mean you can buy it upon review, but you can't really plan ahead at all, which isn't really all that great. I would rather know what I was getting in advance.
Option 3 is pretty lame since you can't really sensibly afford the product.
 

Paratus

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Day Y is before day X.

I would prefer option #2. It gives you a chance to evaluate shortly forthcoming products, and plan accordingly.
Option 1 may mean you can buy it upon review, but you can't really plan ahead at all, which isn't really all that great. I would rather know what I was getting in advance.
Option 3 is pretty lame since you can't really sensibly afford the product.

I completely agree w op2.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
I prefer option #1. BAM! Here it is, buy it now!

Yep, I imagine that it works out for them as well... You really can't read the review and do an impulse buy if the cards aren't out yet.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Poll neeeds a "I don't early adopt, so I have no preference. Please just show me the results."
 

cmdrdredd

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Option 4 = reviews on day "Q" and card availabkle on day "P" then I buy it when it reaches day "S" at a hefty discount + rebate and laugh at people who care when it came out.
 

eplebnista

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Launches, reviews and availability do not concern me much, because I do not game and generally buy low end to middle of the pack cards.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Option 4 = reviews on day "Q" and card availabkle on day "P" then I buy it when it reaches day "S" at a hefty discount + rebate and laugh at people who care when it came out.

Yes!!! I love day "S"'s they are so nice to my wallet. :D

I love the people who are saying " I like they way they are going to do it. It gives me time to research and plan ahead." As if you can't do that if they release the card the day they release the performance information. Nope can't wait... if they release the card to market the same day I am sure stuck buying it. Give me a break. And it's not like ATI is doing this so you can research or anything they are doing it just for PR plan and simple. I don't blame them for it there are probably alot of people who are holding off buying a 7950GX2 to see how good the x1950xtx will do, and that's exactly what ATI wants. Just don't try to sugar coat the thing and act like it's the best idea since Easy Cheese.
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Kromis
Is this a low-blow towards ATI? :)

Quite the opposite, and the poll shows it too.
People want a review before the product is in the shops it seems, which is what ATi are doing with the X1950XT.
 

Ackmed

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Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.
 

nitromullet

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You can plan while the card is already for sale, plus the longer the card is available in high quantities, the lower the price tends to be. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would prefer a paper launch over a hard launch.

A really good reason to not have the benches before the new cards is re-sale. If you sell your last gen stuff before you buy the new stuff, it helps to sell it before the new gen is benched. Once, the new stuff is benched, the old stuff loses value quickly. If they paper launch they screw you both ways, you either don't get jack for your old card or you are cardless for a longer time.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
You can plan while the card is already for sale, plus the longer the card is available in high quantities, the lower the price tends to be. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would prefer a paper launch over a hard launch.

A really good reason to not have the benches before the new cards is re-sale. If you sell your last gen stuff before you buy the new stuff, it helps to sell it before the new gen is benched. Once, the new stuff is benched, the old stuff loses value quickly. If they paper launch they screw you both ways, you either don't get jack for your old card or you are cardless for a longer time.

I'm sure either company cares about that :laugh: and why should they?

The second option makes business sense to them, and is my preferred option, since i get info quicker, with a concrete date for mass availability :) best of both worlds.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.

Here is a situation. You have everything planed for your new build all you need now is a GPU so you wait cause you here this new uber card is on the way. The review comes out and the card is beast, a massive beast, and you want it no questions asked, but oh wait you can't buy it can you. In fact you have to wait close to a month. And when you have an itchy trigger finger my friend that sucks. Down with PR stunts.

Edit: I wonder what these companies consider mass availability? I bet Nv thougth they had "mass availability" with the 7800gtx 512. I bet you anything these cards will have availability issues along with price gouging. At least at the begining.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.

Here is a situation. You have everything planed for your new build all you need now is a GPU so you wait cause you here this new uber card is on the way. The review comes out and the card is beast, a massive beast, and you want it no questions asked, but oh wait you can't buy it can you. In fact you have to wait close to a month. And when you have an itchy trigger finger my friend that sucks. Down with PR stunts.

Edit: I wonder what these companies consider mass availability? I bet Nv thougth they had "mass availability" with the 7800gtx 512. I bet you anything these cards will have availability issues along with price gouging. At least at the begining.

well, with option two, that's 100% your own fault for not timing your rig build right ;)
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: nitromullet
You can plan while the card is already for sale, plus the longer the card is available in high quantities, the lower the price tends to be. I can't think of a single reason why anyone would prefer a paper launch over a hard launch.

A really good reason to not have the benches before the new cards is re-sale. If you sell your last gen stuff before you buy the new stuff, it helps to sell it before the new gen is benched. Once, the new stuff is benched, the old stuff loses value quickly. If they paper launch they screw you both ways, you either don't get jack for your old card or you are cardless for a longer time.

I'm sure either company cares about that :laugh: and why should they?

The second option makes business sense to them, and is my preferred option, since i get info quicker, with a concrete date for mass availability :) best of both worlds.

The poll didn't ask which kind of video card launch was better for the company, but which kind of launch I prefered. There are different types of buyers (and sellers) of video cards, and IMO the hard launch favors the frequent updated/early adoptor becasue it makes the window between selling old parts and buying new ones smaller.

Last I heard, you were still using a 6600GT... While you certainly have the right to express your opinion on this, I don't really see why you would really care about hard or paper launches either way.
 

redbox

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.

Here is a situation. You have everything planed for your new build all you need now is a GPU so you wait cause you here this new uber card is on the way. The review comes out and the card is beast, a massive beast, and you want it no questions asked, but oh wait you can't buy it can you. In fact you have to wait close to a month. And when you have an itchy trigger finger my friend that sucks. Down with PR stunts.

Edit: I wonder what these companies consider mass availability? I bet Nv thougth they had "mass availability" with the 7800gtx 512. I bet you anything these cards will have availability issues along with price gouging. At least at the begining.

well, with option two, that's 100% your own fault for not timing your rig build right ;)

Yes you are completly right I should never had let the wife sell that magic orb at the garage sell. :confused:
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.

Here is a situation. You have everything planed for your new build all you need now is a GPU so you wait cause you here this new uber card is on the way. The review comes out and the card is beast, a massive beast, and you want it no questions asked, but oh wait you can't buy it can you. In fact you have to wait close to a month. And when you have an itchy trigger finger my friend that sucks. Down with PR stunts.

Edit: I wonder what these companies consider mass availability? I bet Nv thougth they had "mass availability" with the 7800gtx 512. I bet you anything these cards will have availability issues along with price gouging. At least at the begining.

what if you waited for that extra month only to find out that the new part's performance blows, and you could have been in gaming bliss for a month?
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: redbox
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Second option, easy choice.

If the date is already set for when they will have enough cards to launch with mass avail, why wouldnt you want the information a few weeks early? I cant think of a single reason. The card is going to be available on the same day, and having reviews out earlier is a good thing to me. Lets me know how I want to plan an upgrade, overhaul, or new build. Having to wait for reviews, when you are trying to do one of those options sucks.

Here is a situation. You have everything planed for your new build all you need now is a GPU so you wait cause you here this new uber card is on the way. The review comes out and the card is beast, a massive beast, and you want it no questions asked, but oh wait you can't buy it can you. In fact you have to wait close to a month. And when you have an itchy trigger finger my friend that sucks. Down with PR stunts.

Edit: I wonder what these companies consider mass availability? I bet Nv thougth they had "mass availability" with the 7800gtx 512. I bet you anything these cards will have availability issues along with price gouging. At least at the begining.

well, with option two, that's 100% your own fault for not timing your rig build right ;)

Yes you are completly right I should never had let the wife sell that magic orb at the garage sell. :confused:

Huh? In this situation it was clear when the card would be availiable...so yeah, it would be your own fault :p