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Chronoshock

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Jul 6, 2004
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XP pro, runs fine for me. No problems with stability or anything, memory usage on a clean install is under 100 mb. Longest uptime was about two months before I restarted because I installed something
 
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Snapster

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XP Pro. Ones it's configured right, and a few reg tweaks here and there it's better than 2k and no more annoyances like the search assistant etc. I might try 2003 soon, though I know some games wont install on it....without tweaking msi files.
 

Win2k. I have xp on a work related pc here, but that's not my main machine.

I see no noticeable advantages xp has over 2k. *shrug*
 
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0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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xp sp2. i so hate win2k. it was better then 98 yes, but thats not saying much really. i jumped ship as soon as xp came out. when xp dies, recovery is much easier. when win2k dies... oh, it just doesn't boot generally. i'd pity a general user with win2k.. so easy to break. install wrong driver or uninstall wrong.. no boot! heheh, fun stuff
 
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
xp sp2. i so hate win2k. it was better then 98 yes, but thats not saying much really. i jumped ship as soon as xp came out. when xp dies, recovery is much easier. when win2k dies... oh, it just doesn't boot generally. i'd pity a general user with win2k.. so easy to break. install wrong driver or uninstall wrong.. no boot! heheh, fun stuff
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The ONLY time I've seen 2k blow up is with two program installs - Roxio and PCAnywhere. For some reason those two nuked 2k. All I had to do is sign into safemode and dump the startup processes that they launch. But, I've seen the same problem with XP too.

Win2k was, and still is a wonderful O/S. You would have to TRY and break it to get it to blow up.

Not to say XP isn't a good O/S. It is, but it's got so many little nag things that you have to disable to get it so that it's tolerable. Other than the built in ability to burn CD's and a couple little cool power tools it really offers nothing over 2k besides a slicker looking UI. Now that I think about it, RDP is a pretty nice improvement with XP. But I wouldn't be surprised if at some point MS provides it to Win2k since 2k Server has it built in. But who knows.

 
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Lonyo

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Aug 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Yossarian
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
2k pro here baby! I'll never switch
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why would you have such devotion to an OS? I am puzzled. if something works better I will always upgrade.
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So would I. That's why I've stuck with Win 2k. IMO, Win XP does not work better.
It works the same, but with added effort of turning off loads of crap.
 
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nan0bug

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Apr 22, 2003
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Originally posted by: Trygve
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: Trygve

You mean *added* bugs, driver and software incompatibilities, and a deliberate effort to make any basic operation that you'd want to do take a few extra mouse clicks than it used to? The annoying "visual styles" I can shut off; I haven't figured out how to fix the rest of the added annoyances.

Oh, yeah, and new "fixes" and "service packs" coming out all the time that disable whatever software I need to use.
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I get things done just as fast or faster on an XP machine than I do on a 2K machine. A little effort in customizing things to your liking goes a long way. Only newbies use mice for most tasks anyway. Keyboard shortcuts are so much better.

I've also never had any software incompatibilities from 2K to XP. I'd be interested in hearing what software is giving you problems.
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Well, I bought XP Pro because the current version of Avid Xpress Pro (why is *everything* "pro" these days?) only supports XP Pro. ...but it's not compatible with all of Microsoft's "bug fixes," some of which will totally screw up Avid software (fortunately, Avid's technical support section has information on this).

However, installing XP disabled some rather important functions of Adobe Premiere, notably the ability to capture and output video on my system. So you have to upgrade to Adobe Premiere Pro 1.0 (there's that "pro" thing again) which fixes that problem. Adobe has no plans to release a patch for Premiere 6.5, the last "non-pro" version.

But XP SP1 screws up Adobe Premiere Pro 1.0. Fortunately, there's a fix for that. It's called "Premiere Pro 1.5"...but you have to pay for that upgrade, too. (I needed to upgrade After Effects Pro (there's that word again) anyway and some of the other Adobe software I use, so I would have gotten the upgrade regardless, but, still....)

Now, I still haven't gotten the audio working correctly on my SDI card (Osprey 2000 Pro DV--and since it's "pro" too, it ought to be supported, right?) and, though it's less of a big deal, XP keeps "losing" my MOTU 828 firewire audio interface and even when it does recognize it, I haven't been able to get all of its functions working properly yet--but I should probably upgrade it to something more modern anyway.

I didn't have nearly as much trouble going from NT 4.0 to 2K (apart from the drop in stability). The biggest annoyance I ran into there was that Win2K totally screwed up most of my fibre channel HBAs. Of the ones I was using, only the Qlogic models would work with 2K. But, then, the ones that 2K couldn't handle were still supported under Solaris, so that problem could be fixed with a little bit of hardware swapping. Unfortunately, I don't have a supply of spare video and sound hardware lying around to start swapping until I can find out what XP is comfortable with.
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The fact that you use a PC for video editing is laughable.

Buy a Mac. Duh.
 
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Trygve

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Aug 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: Trygve

Well, I bought XP Pro because the current version of Avid Xpress Pro (why is *everything* "pro" these days?) only supports XP Pro. ...but it's not compatible with all of Microsoft's "bug fixes," some of which will totally screw up Avid software (fortunately, Avid's technical support section has information on this).

However, installing XP disabled some rather important functions of Adobe Premiere, notably the ability to capture and output video on my system. So you have to upgrade to Adobe Premiere Pro 1.0 (there's that "pro" thing again) which fixes that problem. Adobe has no plans to release a patch for Premiere 6.5, the last "non-pro" version.

But XP SP1 screws up Adobe Premiere Pro 1.0. Fortunately, there's a fix for that. It's called "Premiere Pro 1.5"...but you have to pay for that upgrade, too. (I needed to upgrade After Effects Pro (there's that word again) anyway and some of the other Adobe software I use, so I would have gotten the upgrade regardless, but, still....)

Now, I still haven't gotten the audio working correctly on my SDI card (Osprey 2000 Pro DV--and since it's "pro" too, it ought to be supported, right?) and, though it's less of a big deal, XP keeps "losing" my MOTU 828 firewire audio interface and even when it does recognize it, I haven't been able to get all of its functions working properly yet--but I should probably upgrade it to something more modern anyway.

I didn't have nearly as much trouble going from NT 4.0 to 2K (apart from the drop in stability). The biggest annoyance I ran into there was that Win2K totally screwed up most of my fibre channel HBAs. Of the ones I was using, only the Qlogic models would work with 2K. But, then, the ones that 2K couldn't handle were still supported under Solaris, so that problem could be fixed with a little bit of hardware swapping. Unfortunately, I don't have a supply of spare video and sound hardware lying around to start swapping until I can find out what XP is comfortable with.
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The fact that you use a PC for video editing is laughable.

Buy a Mac. Duh.
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Where would I get ahold of copies of your completed films to check out the quality of your Mac-based editing work?

I work with a few production houses that use Mac-based editing systems and the only one that doesn't seem to be a lot more trouble than my lowly PC-based system is a really great ProTools setup they have at the Digital Media Center where I've done Dolby surround remixes and M&Es. (Most filmmakers really should do those from the start if they're planning to do any international sales, but most don't...which means I get to deal with them down the road when it's that much tougher.) I've done more tech support work on Macs in the past than I ever want to again and the work I've done on other people's Final Cut Pro systems (mostly TV commercials) has *not* inspired me to want to switch platforms.

Even at the Digital Media Center, they've switched all of their video editing systems to PC-based, though they may still have some SGI Onyx based rendering systems. Not sure, since I haven't dealt with their motion capture and 3D animation departments for two years or so. The other studios around here have mostly switched from Mac and SGI machines to PC-based systems--at least the bigger ones--even my own old SGI video machine is on indefinite loan to a friend of mine.
 
Chebago

Chebago

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Apr 10, 2004
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I'm surprised that more people aren't using linux, I have redhat 9 right now but just got XP Pro from school and a new 200gb harddrive, the new hard drive will be home to XP pro and Linux Fedora 2, I'm not a big fan of fedora but it is what the school runs on their machines...
 
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trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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XP Pro on the main computer. 2000 Pro on the laptop that is just used for web browsing by me or my wife when the other is on the main PC. Didn't feel like paying for XP Pro for that.
 
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Eli

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Oct 9, 1999
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What the fsck is wrong with you people still running Windows 3.x? :Q:Q:Q

Windows 95 is better! I remember when I upgraded from WFW 3.11 to Windows 95.. I was amazed.

I find it amusing that there are votes for Win3.x and none for WinME, though. :D
 
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