POLL: What is the most discriminated group in America today?

[Chaotic42]

The truly unbiased.

 

[Jeff7]

Might as well add atheists to that. Some people are accepting of it, but there are too many that view you as being amoral, and generally a bad/evil person if you don't accept God/Jesus/Superman as your savior whatever.
Another way to see the discrimination - run for public office, and let it be known (gently, don't flaunt it even) that you are an atheist. See how far you'd go before your house or car was vandalized, or how long it'd be until you would get threats against your life.

 

[Shockwave]

I'm a young white male.

I voted for Whites out of all the options.

 

[Lucky]

bump

 

[Tal]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: Spac3d
How in the world can you people think that whites are discriminated more than hispanic or middle eastern people?

Simple. The morons among the white group vote white. The world has to revolve around them as it has done so historically. Anything else is bad since its worse for them and it helps others. Equality and fairness!

Blah blah blah blah.... my name if Gr1mL0cK.... blah blah blah blah. I hate whitey. blah blah blah.

EDIT:
I just saw this today:


IRONY ALERT

To criticize a conference about slavery reparations at Central Connecticut State University for not including participants against the notion is racist and illustrates a ?blind hatred against black skin,? reports the Journal-Sentinel.

The Connecticut Association of Scholars, in a letter to the Connecticut State University system decrying a lack of intellectual diversity on campuses, cited the reparations conferences last year as an example of that lack of diversity.

The organizers of the conference, however, say the CAS?s criticism is racist.

"The protests against reparations stand on the same platform that produced apartheid, Hitler, and the KKK," said Evelyn Phillips, a professor of anthropology at CCSU.

The CSU system's chancellor, William J. Cibes, says the campuses are already diverse. He says academic freedom is about professors expressing their views without interference from the administration and outside parties.

"That's really what academic freedom is," Cibes says. "To begin to say there should be enforced diversity is to begin to interfere with academic freedom"

LINK: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=8151077&BRD=985&PAG=461&dept_id=161556&rfi=6

 

[Nitemare]

American Indians

 

[weezergirl]

OMG. i cannot even believe the results of the poll. I agree that every group is discriminated against but to believe that whites are the most....please tell me you are joking. :disgust: Shows you how self centered some people are.

I voted for gays myself.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Dead Parrot:

While I have experienced discrimination as an individual and as a member of a group, I try to use these experiences to understand how more serious kinds of discrimination must make the victim feel. I always think back to a time when I was a child playing in a park with a black boy. My Grandma called us over to share some cookies she had brought with her. I could see the apprehension this young black boy had about coming over, not knowing how my Grandmother would react to him. My Grandma was a wonderful person and quickly made him feel welcome, but I've never forgotten how wrong it seemed that a little kid just like me would have to wonder how he would be treated just because of the color of his skin. This would have been in 1962 or so..

Since then lots of progress has been made, but as I said earlier I find it very disheartening when the most privileged group in our society becomes so self-involved that they no longer take the time to walk a mile in the other man's shoes.

Amen! I don't understand how anyone with any understanding of what it's like to be a minority could possibly choose whites in that poll. The fact that so many whites think they are the most discriminated against is good evidence that there is still an enormous racial divide in the United States. It's unfortunate. Education is the only way it'll change. I went to a nearly all-white private Christian high school, and there was so much racism there it was embarrassing. And the people there all pissed and moaned about how affirmative action was going to keep them from getting into their top school and all that. Haha... if you're white and you can't find a good college to go to in the United States, then no offense but you must be dumb as a post. Upper middle class white people complaining that all of the scholarships go to the underpriveleged minorities... haha! Whites have had the advantage for hundreds of years, we can afford to give some of it back.

 

[SuperTool]

Single renters. Use very few taxpayer services, but pay highest taxes with no deductions.

 

[StormRider]

I didn't know you were a little older than me. I always thought you were a youngster.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Dead Parrot:

While I have experienced discrimination as an individual and as a member of a group, I try to use these experiences to understand how more serious kinds of discrimination must make the victim feel. I always think back to a time when I was a child playing in a park with a black boy. My Grandma called us over to share some cookies she had brought with her. I could see the apprehension this young black boy had about coming over, not knowing how my Grandmother would react to him. My Grandma was a wonderful person and quickly made him feel welcome, but I've never forgotten how wrong it seemed that a little kid just like me would have to wonder how he would be treated just because of the color of his skin. This would have been in 1962 or so..

Since then lots of progress has been made, but as I said earlier I find it very disheartening when the most privileged group in our society becomes so self-involved that they no longer take the time to walk a mile in the other man's shoes.
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I would give any thing to know what it is that makes one person so sensitive and compassionate at a young age and another as course as stone. I vividly remember being with another boy, very young, maybe first of second grade. We were playing somewhere wild and he accidentally broke a birds nest and all the eggs. He went nuts with remorse and pain. It's amazing how little things like that can be remembered all your life. I sometimes wonder of those who long to see others treated well are those who have known great pain. I love the Buddhist prayer, I vow to save all sentient beings. I remember reading something about a person can be known by his aim. Thanks for the story. I spent memorial day thinking sad thoughts of what man does in war. To be reminded again that there are people around who care really brightens my day.

 

[calbear2000]

33% said whites are the most discriminated group???

The ignorance is astounding...

 

[borealiss]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: glugglug
Actually whites are one of the the most discriminated against groups. Not on a personal level but on a systematic level.

Most large employers have "equal opportunity" employment rules which means that the proportions of hiree races has to be the same as the proportion in the general population. Which means if others in your group tend to work for their jobs you are SOL. I know my mom was turned down for a lot of teaching jobs because she was white, and sometimes people are even upfront about the fact that a black or hispanic with the same qualifications would get the job easily, but they can't hire any whites because of ratios that have to be kept.

In some fields Indians and or Asians may be discriminated against more than whites for similar reasons to the above.

how stupid.

you said equally qualified. IF they are equally qualified it is ONLY right that you keep the ratios consistent with the population at large. THAT IS NOT DISCRIMINATION.

your reply to this is so retarded it's unbelievable. equal opportunity means hiring somebody with the qualifications regardless of race/gender/sexual orientation/whatever. you don't hire based on the ratio of racial representation in the office and whether or not it accurately reflects the demographics of society. "equal opportunity", ie affirmative action, is not this. THAT IS DISCRIMINATION. if some black guy is completely qualified for a job, but the workplace where he's applying a job for has had its "quota" of black people already hired, then he shouldn't be hired???? uh...right, according to your logic, because the workplace doesn't represent the demographic makeup of society, the black person doesn't get the job. geez.

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Syringer
Hmm, will the people that made whites #1 on the poll explain themselves?

One difference between straight whites and every other racial / ethnic / sexual group is that white males are the one group that it is acceptable to bash and (through affirmative action, scholarships, etc.) discriminate against.

The 99.9% of the white population that are working class and not terribly affluent are lumped in with the 0.1% mostly-white super-rich who do control the corporations and familiy fortunes. Your ancestors might have been enslaved, but mine were kept in grinding poverty as "indentured servants" and tenant farmers by some of the same rich oppressors.

I personally do believe in scholarships to give more people a chance at "the pursuit of happiness," but think most of them should be based on economic need / poverty rather than race. And I do accept the need for some forms of affirmative action to make up for the lack of equal access to education and to help overcome the legacy of all the friends of Trent Lott that still make up the top management at most corporations (and pack the house and senate).

scholarships are money people give away willingly for free. they should be able to decide whoever they want to give away their money to. if i wanna give my money away only to hispanic female engineers, i should be entitled to. it's my money. i should be able to do what i want with it. i don't see the problem with minority groups giving specific scholarships to people of the same ethnicity.

and i don't agree with your affirmative action post. access to higher education is there for people who are willing to take the next step and do the hard work. i know plenty of asian families that come here with absolutely nothing and the second generation are already in some of the top schools in the nation. it's called hard work. if anything, outreach programs conveying the importance of a higher education need to be increased. but if a person doesn't make it on pure qualifications, then i don't believe they deserve entrance into that school. my hispanic friend got into princeton, and he knew it wasn't on his grades. he felt extremely insulted by this and went to berkeley instead.

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: Syringer
Hmm, will the people that made whites #1 on the poll explain themselves?

I think a better explanation would be that those who voted for white, are failures in real life, and it's easier to be a victim than to take responsibility.

i think anybody who thinks they're a victim in life are failures in real life.

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
The results of this poll is absolutely f*cking disgusting. I can't believe it. THE most? Oh my f*ckin gawd!

considering that most of the people here are white (pure demographics), and that most ethnicities vote for themselves as being oppressed, it's not really that amazing to believe. i mean, look at it this way. atot is OVERWHELMINGLY male, yet how many voted for women? i rest my case.

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: Maetryx
First, no one implied that there is tons of discrimination out there just because they voted in the poll. The question was asked, and some people selected "whites" as the most discriminated againt. The shrill reaction to the poll is kind of amusing. The knee jerk shouting of "ignorance" is typical. If there were 10 cases against white, and 5 cases against some minority group, the happy news is that there isn't that much going on. But the poll result would still say "whites" are the "most" discriminated against.

In fact I voted "whites", but I was also considering "gays". One reason I chose "white" is because if I were a black female with my identical credentials (engineering degree, 10 years of experience) then I would be a particularly hot commodity due to the undeniable skewing affect of the affirmative action culture. As it is, I'm a white male and I am a regular commodity.

My sister-in-law (white) ended up going to medical school overseas because she could not get into a med school with her good credentials. If she were a racial minority, she could have selected any medical school in this country (United States).

So don't panic when white people select "white" on this poll. White people are tired of being the neutral background in which non-whites congregate into racial special interest groups. The poll results aren't the result of ignorance. It ought to embarass the shouters of racial status quo that they have to resort immediately to name calling.

Right, that 1% of the minorities that are benefiting from affirmative action is really detracting your opportunites. Oh noooooo!!!

"Today 1 in 4 Americans is either Black, Hispanic, or Native American; however in medical school these groups comprise only:

· 1 in 10 medical students,
· 3 in 100 faculty members, and
· 1 in 100 full professors. "

I'm sure its because white people are just smarter and harder working though. You know, they take personal responsibility the most and all. I'm sure your sister didn't get into med school because of that minority that stole her position, not because she just didn't get beat out.

It's funny how you place the blame on minorities such as black, instead of looking to solve to the problem of the rich, white people who you say is not respresentative of you.

if you don't think it's because those people are harder working, then you need to wisen up. at my school, the ee/cs/ce engineers are overwhelmingly non-white. mostly asian and indian. but i guess it's not because of the hard work they put into the school. or the time they take to study their major. oh no. it must be because they're discrimanatory against white folk. please. maybe it's because they have a harder work ethic than most people, whether or not it's something engrained in their culture.

Originally posted by: Maetryx
1) I don't think there is much discimination going on in this country to anyone.
2) I am not (nor did I claim to be) a victim.
3) The fact remains that if I am a black female (all else being equal) I would have an even greater marketability than I already enjoy as an engineer with 10 years experience. Since there isn't much discrimination going on, this is an example of a type that is occuring: artificial value placed on non-whiteness and non-maleness

um...no. there's plenty of racism in this country against all ethnicities. i however believe that hard work in all cases will overcome this hurdle for anybody. although since i don't know all the circumstances surround your sister, i won't comment on it. i don't think much racism is going on compared to a decade or two ago. if you apply yourself to what you want to do and truly work for it, i don't think anything is impossible for that person to attain. and the people that don't want to apply themselves and want to be victocrats and blame the system or the -isms will always remain on the lower rung. the fact that many people i know who are not so unbelievable have pulled themselves up by the bootstraps regardless of race and have moved up in society is proof enough to me.

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Magically, it would seem, Asians, Jews, West Indies blacks are immune to this institutional racism.

You have got to be kidding? It does happen. Have you looked at the hospitals or engineering companies and seeing what the proportion of asians are? Then look at management and up, and what are the numbers like up there?

i have. most top execs are white. now, how many asians/indians/etc... do you know that were business majors, got an mba, etc... most asians that i know of are pursuing something in the sciences. same with indian. now, just because there's an overwhelming number of a couple of ethinicities in a job occupation doesn't mean jack. otherwise engineering would be construed as racist against whites, which it isn't. however, when the overwhelming majority for an occupation is white, it must be racist. white = minority implies no racism. white = majority implies racism. hmmm, this logic sounds kind of skewed.

i'm about on page 2 of this thread that has spiraled towards meaningless chatter as the victocrats come out of the woodwork. i can't believe some of the opinions in this poll. especially those of victocrats.

 

[Sciolist]

Where I work we officially celebrate diversity and woe betide s/he who does not "respect differences and value the diversity we all bring". We are trying so hard to change the percentages of non-WASP males in middle/upper management that if you are a white male doing a great job, tough luck, you won't help our goals. This hurts morale and lowers our effectiveness.

We have support groups for black people, asian/pacific people, and women. What do you think would happen if a white male wanted to start a group for white males?

We have one person in our group that consistently does not pull their weight. We can't fire him, it would lower our "diversity".

Oh, and BTW, I'm female, my boss is Asian, and his boss is black, and her boss is Jewish.

 

[MithShrike]

OK, I'm white and I KNOW that white-ass bastards like myself ain't the most discriminated against. I KNOW it's gays. Just think of the terminology the average teenager uses... "OMG that is so GAY!" Anyways, Whitey=Sucks. Plain and simple. Luckily I'm no purebred whitey... although I look it. I'm 1/4 Mexican and got some Native American in me. Trust me all you damned WASPs you discriminate against other people a hell of a lot more than they do you.

 

[MithShrike]

Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
it depends where. here, it almost seems like whites have become a minority and the majority of people are all asian. however, when i take trips out of state, then everybody you see is white, and its kind of nervousing

Hell yeah it's nerve wracking... I'm originally from Stockton, CA and when I moved on out to Gilbert, AZ I was like WTF is with all the White people?

 

[Zrom999]

These days it seems that people are mostly discriminated against for their ideas (political, philosophical etc) and not because of race or religion.