* Poll : webmaster / html guru - CSS vs table webpage layout ?

[jimmyhaha]

which one u use ?

pros & cons ?

my major concern is that CSS mess up all the layout on old 4.x browser like netscape.

Other than that, CSS seems a more logical way to organize content.

What do u think ?

 

[Chaotic42]

I use tables, but I don't make very complicated web pages.

 

[atom]

CSS, to hell with backwards compatibility. But depending on the complexity of the site, tables are fine.

 

[DaFinn]

Tables are fine for not so complicated pages... and complicated pages SUCK!

... besides I use Flash.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: atom
CSS, to hell with backwards compatibility. But depending on the complexity of the site, tables are fine.

what he said

 

[jimmyhaha]

bump

 

[filmmaker]

Think about it this way:

You can make tables out of CSS, but you can't make CSS out of tables.

 

[rh71]

I'm still living in the tables age... until CSS becomes more uniform.

 

[Huma]

often, you'll need to use both.

these days, our team (unspecified big web company) uses css for major component layout, and tables usually to handle data formatting within that.

the Netscape 4.x market is small enough to not care anymore, but we usually do a browser detect to tell the user they need to upgrade.

The best way to deal with it is to look at the design and choose your technique based on that. tables are often better and managing designs that have interdependant sections that need to flex with each other depending on content length.

anyone who says one method absolutely and always probably doesn't know their stuff as well as they should.

 

[MikeMike]

i tried using css once, but when i previewed it in opera it was sent to hell and back. But now i use tables with css styling http://www.brownwestern.com/main13.htm and it looks better on ANY browser other than netscape 3 and back.

USE TABLES OR YOU BETTER HOPE NO ONE WITH OPERA VIEWS THE PAGE!!!


MIKE

 

[brentman]

I prefer to use tables. I usually make the main layout with tables and stick in areas using css where I want stuff to appear. Typically I just play around with everything til I get what I want to see.

 

[Kelemvor]

I never learned CSS so I jsut use Tables. Only do simple websites so no need for anything fancy,

 

[jjones]

I use both.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
i tried using css once, but when i previewed it in opera it was sent to hell and back. But now i use tables with css styling http://www.brownwestern.com/main13.htm and it looks better on ANY browser other than netscape 3 and back.

USE TABLES OR YOU BETTER HOPE NO ONE WITH OPERA VIEWS THE PAGE!!!


MIKE

if you use css properly opera will have no problems displaying the page, more often more correctly than other browsers

 

[MikeMike]

did you ever see what my css page looked like? all i did was use css to position things, and most of it was right, but it butchered other parts of it. I am using CSS for style's and colors but wont use it for positioning.

MIKE

 

[Czar]

I have done the same and it looks the same in all browsers..... except old ones that only support css1 and not css2

 

[Tetsuo]

Originally posted by: jjones
I use both.

 

[virtuamike]

Tables to put stuff where I want it. CSS to make it look right. And yes, you can make CSS work with netscape, people are just too lazy to write it out that's all. Me, I work for UCD, if I made stuff non-netscape compatible I'd get fired.

 

[CaffeineAndStuff]

WCAG advises not to use tables for layout for accessibility reasons

http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT-TECHS/#tech-avoid-table-for-layout