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Poll: Web Design - 800x600 or 1024x768?

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Originally posted by: dukdukgoos
Fixed-width sucks... let me guess: you're still using table layout too, right? You know it's 2005, right?

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to all these people talking smack, lets see your work....a lot of peole talking a lot of sh@t, but not much to offer, either put up or shut up. let us see your scaleable sites...
 
Originally posted by: Kev
even if most visitors run at 1024, not all those people view your site in a full window. I never use a full window
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Yep. Spend some time looking in a computer lab and surveying who's doing what. You'll see most browser windows aren't opened full screen. That causes some funky effects if you got a site not optimized for 800x600 -- enough so that the viewer will think the web designer was a complete moron.

 
Originally posted by: Yossarian451
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: randomlinh
anyone have a good example of a site that is fully scalable? I have trouble w/ this w/o putting in a max size, just because it ends up being way too spaced out.. or just doesn't flow right. I've always liked flash pages because it shows exactly what you want, across the board. More concentration on design, over trying to get browser compatibility. However, at the same time... it's flash 🙁
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you can detect screen resolution (but users may not always have browsers maximized on their screen)... you can just load the appropriate version... it's not that time consuming to create 2 versions for layout and pull data as long as your site loads dynamic content.
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Yeah a couple years back I worte a nice little script to do that. I towuld choose the right images and table info. Don't have it anymore though.
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if a site is very large and complex, I would gather making two versions quite a PITA. I have enough trouble when I'm doing basic things just to get spacing issues resolved between IE, firefox, and safari. oh well, not like I do it for a living, heh.

however, to add, I never have my browser open full screen.. unless someone links to an image and doesn't resize it (i hate the auto-resize feature... I don't care if I'm on broadband, ppl need to start resizing their 5MP images so I can browse instead of wait)
 
Originally posted by: rh71
^ :thumbsup:

Take a look around the best of the best... plenty of fixed width pages... even if they are centered.
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hell, even a lot of flash stuff that was fixed width....still waiting on all the smack talkers though.

rh71 - thanks for the link, nice stuff
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: dukdukgoos
Fixed-width sucks... let me guess: you're still using table layout too, right? You know it's 2005, right?

😀
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to all these people talking smack, lets see your work....a lot of peole talking a lot of sh@t, but not much to offer, either put up or shut up. let us see your scaleable sites...
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Here's one from the company I work for. Flexible and fully CSS...

Link
 
Originally posted by: dukdukgoos
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: dukdukgoos
Fixed-width sucks... let me guess: you're still using table layout too, right? You know it's 2005, right?

😀
Click to expand...

to all these people talking smack, lets see your work....a lot of peole talking a lot of sh@t, but not much to offer, either put up or shut up. let us see your scaleable sites...
Click to expand...

Here's one from the company I work for. Flexible and fully CSS...

Link
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that sites looks nice but it is 98% text, i will be dealing with imges too, thus the reason i prefer to use fixed width
 
1024 isn't good if you're actually working on a high profile site. I'm a web developer for a company that makes websites for film and tv studios in LA and we still go for 800x600.
 
Originally posted by: igowerf
1024 isn't good if you're actually working on a high profile site. I'm a web developer for a company that makes websites for film and tv studios in LA and we still go for 800x600.
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is it 800x600 fixed or scaleable?
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: igowerf
1024 isn't good if you're actually working on a high profile site. I'm a web developer for a company that makes websites for film and tv studios in LA and we still go for 800x600.
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That's EXACTLY what I was thinking.

So, what do these lugnuts who say 1024x768 know, that the big shots don't? 😕
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And that's fine. Deciding what resolution you're going to use, as I said, is a judgement call. You have to consider a number of factors. For large corporations, the equation balances differently. They don't know anything that we don't know.
 
...the equation balances differently. They don't know anything that we don't know.

Yeah, it's not like they're trying to impress anyone, make money, or anything like that. They're just flying by the seats of their pants like the rest of us. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Kev
even if most visitors run at 1024, not all those people view your site in a full window. I never use a full window
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Wow. I vitrually never use my browser in anything less than full window. I'm pretty sure most people are the same as me.
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Wrong. If you had a widescreen monitor, you would be using other stuff too, and not using a overly stretched browser window... Point is, not everyone uses a full window all the time.

Moreover, 800x600 sites still look fine.

Furthermore, all the people talking about scalable sites? Wow you're like retarded. Fixed width is what people use.
 
Well, if you're going to use fixed width, I'd do 800x600. I run at 1600x1200, and I use CSS for my website, but if you look at it, it's extremely spartan. Just information.

As far as not using fullscreen, I never have a browser open in anything but fullscreen.
 
It depends on the target audience. if older people, I'd say 800x600 as they tend to crank down the resolution for old eyes (same for blind or otherwise), If for techies (of anysort) then 1024x768.
 
800x600. I run 10x7, but I have my taskbar running up the side of my monitor. Wide websites mean I have to collapse it.

At the very least, make sure one doesn't have to scroll just to read the text at 800x600.
 
Originally posted by: LeiZaK
it really depends on your target audience. Generally, I would use 800x600, if you need to use a static resolution, for the widest demographic.
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Exactly.

Keep in mind that windows xp will attempt to change to 1024x768 at first boot if your video is capable of such.

Unless you are making a website designed specifically for an audience that is likely to be on older computers or not running an up to date OS, then 1024x768 works.

If the website you are designing is being replaced from an older site, ask to view the web stats so you can better design for the audience. Many web stats tell you the OS and resolution that people run at.
 
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: igowerf
1024 isn't good if you're actually working on a high profile site. I'm a web developer for a company that makes websites for film and tv studios in LA and we still go for 800x600.
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is it 800x600 fixed or scaleable?
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That just depends on the client and the designer, I suppose. Most of them are fixed width since TV and film websites are graphics/Flash intensive.
 
I would design with 800x600 in mind. At least for a couple more years.

As mentioned before, not everyone browse with full screen browser. Also, not everyone has 19" or 21" monitor, especially where bigger monitors are considered extra upgrades and/or luxury item.

I'm using 1024x768 as my screen resolution (that's the most my laptop can do), but my browser window is set to 880x768. I like having some space on the side for other things like gaim buddy list window. Also, when I'm using multiple browser windows, it makes switching easier because I can click on the other browser window's area easier than clicking on the taskbar at the bottom of the screen.

(Yes, I am aware that I can use alt-tab, but I usually have many other applications open at the same time)
(And yes, that means I don't like AT's layout because I always have to scroll left and right to read some threads)


If you are working on personal website, you can do whatever you want with the size and display, and nobody will complain (or at least, they can't). However, if you are working on business website or design for other people, you need to research your target audience and their preferences. It's not enough to differentiate between technical vs non-technical people, because even technical people has different preferences as to browser window size. What you need to know is their browsing habit and what they like to see.


Look at simple bits for example of how he did both fixed and liquid layout.
 
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