Poll: To all those rambus supporters

Dark4ng3l

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If rambus(rdram) is so good than why dont nVIDIA use it too overcome the massive memory bottleneck on their vid cards.
1- Horrible latency
2- Horrible price

 

luvrambus

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silly silly you..I'll let you find the answer to that question yourself...but I have a better one for you..if rambus is so bad how come the P4 is gonna run on rambus??..hmmm...a ferrari is expensive and that doesn't stop people from buying it..Intel is really hush hush about the P4 and most things people hear about it are only rumors. Do you think a company like Intel is really gonna risk releasing another flawed processor..I don't think so...wait till it comes out you'll see...RDRAM is comming back..too bad for those that can't afford it..I am very happy with my system and there is nothing out there right now that I would trade mine for, except maybe a PIII 900, but the rambus stays..it's my ferrari, and everyone will be left in the dust as soon as those new streets are layed out.
 

Eli

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LMAO ...

The P4 is going to use RAMBUS because Intel kissed RAMBUS' ass and signed contracts that said they were going to use it, not because it's the best memory solution for the processor. ;)


RAMBUS IS SUCK.
 

XMan

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Luvrambus,

Nice system.

Unfortunately, if you'd gone with PC133, you could have afforded a 10,000rpm Ultra160 SCSI drive instead of that 20gig Maxtor . . . ;)
 

LXi

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luvrambus: DDR will be a better solution. Just like McLarens are better than Ferraris.
 

LXi

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There is one in this very thread. His name tells everything.
 

Toxin

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Rambus only sucks to the everyday user due to the fact it;s not implemented properly.. if it really did suck that bad.. Sony won't use it for the PS2.. and P4 would not support it.. but it does...

i like all the RAM out there.. DDR, RAMBUS, SDRAM... it's all the same.. if you have the money to buy the RAMBUS.. let em be.. who cares...

let the guy use Rambus if he wants.. i don't see the problem if he can afford it right?

i'm not a rich guy or whatnot.. but i like my SDRAM at the moment ;)
 

hans007

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answer is both, plus the heat dissapation on the chips would probably be bad too. And the yields would suck. You'd have to throw away half the cards.
 

Warrenton

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If anyone hasn't heard, Foster will use DDR and not RAMBUST. Intel is only using RAMBUS on the P4 because the P4 was developed for it initially. Once Intel determined that RAMBUS was not going to success they changed the development of the future stuff to use DDR instead. Remember the P4 has been in development for quite some time, it isn't easy to change horses in the middle of the race.

And yes Intel is in contract with RAMBUS to use it exclusivly. But RAMBUS was also under contract to supply a memory system that was better than anything else out or in the works. Well RAMBUS failed to provide something better than DDR which was in the works, and therefore RAMBUS voided the contract already.
 

sciencewhiz

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Warrenton,

Do you have a link that says that Foster won't support Rambus. I have heard that it would support DDR SDRAM but haven't heard that it would support it exclusivly.
 

Dark4ng3l

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Intel used rambus because they had a deal(amd has this too) that they would get tons of rambus stock if they were the first to ship a certain number of rimms in their systems.Intel are greedy bastards and took that offer blindly and now they suffer for it.
 

Czar

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luvrambus

The reason for that is that Intel made a contract with Rambus that is valid for the next 3 years, Intel must only make chipsets that support RDRAM, so stupid Intel. Intel has also made a contract with VIA about VIA making DDRAM and SDRAM chipsets for Pentium4.
 

KarsinTheHutt

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luvrambus, I used an HP Vectra w' an i820 board, 733 MHz P!!!, and 128 MB RDRAM. It was no faster than similar PC133 based systems.
 

Insomniac

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Video card makers are not going to use RAMBUS in their cards for one major reason: Price. Using RAMBUS would increase the cost of the card enough that it would almost push people to their competitors. I seriously doubt it is the latency. If I'm not mistaken, the latency hit is worst when the RAM is not under full load. In video cards the RAM is always being pushed because there is not any cache.

hans007: You are completely wrong about the yields sucking. Using RAMBUS on a video card would have no effect on yields. The chips are tested prior to the final assembly of the card. The heat dissipation would be no worse than the GTS Ultra cards.

Dark4ng3l: Where did you find this information about AMD getting the same offer as Intel did from RAMBUS? I would love to see it.
 

Dark4ng3l

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I read that some time ago I think it was on tomshdware(yea I know dr tom is suck)but the article was true.Rambus made a deal with Intel and AMD(and maybe others) that the fist to ship a certain amout of rimms in their systems would get a certain amout of rambus stock.
 

BFG10K

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If rambus(rdram) is so good than why dont nVIDIA use it too overcome the massive memory bottleneck on their vid cards.

(1) It will likely double the cost of the video cards.
(2) The video cards will crawl.
(3) nVidia will go out of business.
 

Sword

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The only advantage of Rambus is that it would be easier to put a dual channel memory or maybe a 4 channel memory than SDRAM or DDR RAM.

In the future, if rambus get really cheap and motherboard manufacturer put a 4 channel rambus on their board then the memory bandwidth will probably not be the bottleneck....

But for now, even a dual rambus channel is not enough and maybe a 4 channel wont be enough so I dont think that rambus has really an advantage finally....