Poll tests

ElFenix

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they're unconstitutional at the moment due to being part of jim crow back in the solid south, but i think it would be a good idea that you can only vote if you can pick out the united states on a map. and maybe another question like when did the war of 1812 start. really obvious things like that. for a toughie you might throw in "what happened on december 7 1941" as a multiple choice question like "A) Pearl Harbor B) Septemeber 11th C) VJ Day 5) Gettysburg"
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
they're unconstitutional at the moment due to being part of jim crow back in the solid south, but i think it would be a good idea that you can only vote if you can pick out the united states on a map. and maybe another question like when did the war of 1812 start. really obvious things like that. for a toughie you might throw in "what happened on december 7 1941" as a multiple choice question like "A) Pearl Harbor B) Septemeber 11th C) VJ Day 5) Gettysburg"

While you are stirring the pot will poll tests, why not throw this one in as well.

Should only taxpayers get to vote?
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
they're unconstitutional at the moment due to being part of jim crow back in the solid south, but i think it would be a good idea that you can only vote if you can pick out the united states on a map. and maybe another question like when did the war of 1812 start. really obvious things like that. for a toughie you might throw in "what happened on december 7 1941" as a multiple choice question like "A) Pearl Harbor B) Septemeber 11th C) VJ Day 5) Gettysburg"

Sadly, I know somebody who got that wrong on a test.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: ElFenix
they're unconstitutional at the moment due to being part of jim crow back in the solid south, but i think it would be a good idea that you can only vote if you can pick out the united states on a map. and maybe another question like when did the war of 1812 start. really obvious things like that. for a toughie you might throw in "what happened on december 7 1941" as a multiple choice question like "A) Pearl Harbor B) Septemeber 11th C) VJ Day 5) Gettysburg"

While you are stirring the pot will poll tests, why not throw this one in as well.

Should only taxpayers get to vote?

either way its a republic and not this crappy mob rule democracy we're trending towards.
 

Zebo

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Whats wrong with "mob rule". I call it a true democracy you guys are avoctating an artistocracy which would have 90% of americans as dirty little farmers w/o access to capital or education.

BTW- what is mob rule?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Whats wrong with "mob rule". I call it a true democracy you guys are avoctating an artistocracy which would have 90% of americans as dirty little farmers w/o access to capital or education.

BTW- what is mob rule?

ummm... no, it would be a republic, not an aristocracy. aristocracies degenerate into plutocracies, while republics degenerate into democracies. read plato.

the "mob" is the latin term for the common people who were used by gracchi to start the end of the roman republic. and there were actually two mobs, the ubran dwelling one that went out and cracked heads, and the rural one that had lots of members and voting power.
 

shiner

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Good idea but the questions need to be a bit tougher. People should at least be required to name the current President, their Congressman, and Senators in order to vote in a national election. On the state level they should know their Rep and Governor. Throw in a couple of basic history questions and that would be enough. The lack of knowledge some people have about who their political leaders are is frightening.
 

ConclamoLudus

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The only poll test they should have is whether or not you have a heartbeat. For some reason they are still having problems with dead people voting let alone stupid people. Perhaps after the 2000 election they'll at least explain the ballots to people who can't figure out which hole is next to which name.

Zombies vs. the Butterfly Ballot


What we have been seeing in St. Louis these past months has been nothing short of astonishing -- to the degree that we have become a national laughing-stock.

Dead people and dogs registered by mail. Fake people registering. Addresses which are vacant lots. Voter rolls with more names than there are people of voting age.

A City Judge violated state law by providing extended voter hours for only selected polling places, and individuals voting with absolutely no record of any registration.

But we have also discovered in our ongoing review another major problem in St. Louis --- the voter rolls are so clogged up with incorrect or fraudulant data that legal voters are shortchanged.

St. Louis City actually has more voters listed on its voter rolls than the voting age population of the city. This means an over than 100% registration rate ... which is amazing, but not surprising if the dead are reregistering.

Equally amazing, we also discovered that in the City of St. Louis one out of every 10 registered voters is also registered somewhere else in the state!

In fact, over 24,000 people are dual registered in St. Louis City as well as somewhere else in Missouri. Now I don?t know how many voted more than once -- but the voter rolls would have allowed them to do so.

To date my staff has reveiwed 11,826 of these multiple registered names

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Found 8789 voters who were still registered in the City, even after moving out and registering at their new address.
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Found 335 voters who were actually registered twice in the City itself.
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Found 198 voters who were registered three different places in the state. And two of these 198 voters were actually registered three times in St. Louis City.
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And then found 3 voters who were registered at four different places in the state.

Thus it is painfully clear that our voter registration system is broken. And desperately needs repairing.

But as I have said before Mr. Chairman, voter rolls are a symptom of a larger problem. We have also seen just about every illegal registration scheme imaginable:

-- Fake addressses
-- Dead people registering
-- People registering from
vacant lots
-- Fraudulant dual registrations
-- Dogs registering

That?s right -- even dogs are able to register in St. Louis.A City Grand Jury is now investigating 3800 voter registration cards dumped on the election Board on the last day to register before the March 6th primary: press reports note that at least 1000 were bogus registrations for people already registered, and of course we have all heard about the cases of dead public officials being reregistered.

:Q
 

Moonbeam

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This would not be fair because it would eliminate most conservatives from the roles.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Whats wrong with "mob rule". I call it a true democracy you guys are avoctating an artistocracy which would have 90% of americans as dirty little farmers w/o access to capital or education.

BTW- what is mob rule?

True democracy is 2 wolves and sheep voting on whats for dinner. Pure democracy is not without its problems.
 

CaptnKirk

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What's disgusting abiut the Kit Bond article is the fact tht the follow up report was never used to update the
initial bullsht that Bond threw out. Overlooked was how many of the Alledged voter registration would have
favored HIS party, as the white flight syndrome that led them to move from the iner city to the 'burbs , didn't
compell them to feel that they should notify the City Board of elections that they had moved.
True dead and puppies were on the list, one was the mother of a judge who looked into the case.
There was even a stack of registrations that had been filled out by paid personell who were hired
to fill them in - by the campaign headquarters of the person who had been beaten in the PREVIOUS election.

Did Bond make mention of the fact that when the polls were ordered to be held open that there were
over 300 people in line waiting to vote, and the election officials were challenging EACH voter for proof
of residency, and verifying each one with the only phone on the premesis to an office that had only
a couple people at the office - and they only had 1 phone there as well.
Typical of the election, they forces\d the rules to their favor, disregarding the citizens rights,
after all - they were in a minority populated district, and we know how fair Republicans are to minorities.
Ask Ashcroft, or Helms, or Trent Lott, or David Duke - they love minorities, and show it.

This is a bit reactionary, but a fitting rebuke to the Kit Bond 'Official' Republican party post
Don't ya just love it ?
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You mean those notoriously stupid Jews who voted for Buchanan?

speaking about Buchanan... I heard Liberman on sunday's candidate forum state "...and I know I can beat Mr. Bush... because I already have"

 

Moonbeam

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Hehe, pretty good, HJ. I wish I could vote for him. I'd rather have a real war monger.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, pretty good, HJ. I wish I could vote for him. I'd rather have a real war monger.


With the elephant sitting on one side of the seesaw and donkeys, monkeys, gnus and LaRoache on the other side I wonder why we don't super glue the donkeys, monkeys etc. together and call them something spiffy and as one unseat the elephant.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, pretty good, HJ. I wish I could vote for him. I'd rather have a real war monger.


With the elephant sitting on one side of the seesaw and donkeys, monkeys, gnus and LaRoache on the other side I wonder why we don't super glue the donkeys, monkeys etc. together and call them something spiffy and as one unseat the elephant.

That "glue" you(they) are looking for is called a platform of ideas. Guess they need to start working on figuring out what they really stand for otherwise that "glue" is just a bunch of goo and no sticky :p

CkG
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, pretty good, HJ. I wish I could vote for him. I'd rather have a real war monger.


With the elephant sitting on one side of the seesaw and donkeys, monkeys, gnus and LaRoache on the other side I wonder why we don't super glue the donkeys, monkeys etc. together and call them something spiffy and as one unseat the elephant.

That "glue" you(they) are looking for is called a platform of ideas. Guess they need to start working on figuring out what they really stand for otherwise that "glue" is just a bunch of goo and no sticky :p

CkG

A Cadyewumpus no doubt..;)

The Donkey has a plank or two as does the monkey.... LaRoache stays at the little hotel in the darkened pantry but, the Gnu... he has the best of planks... and the glue.:)
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: HJD1
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Hehe, pretty good, HJ. I wish I could vote for him. I'd rather have a real war monger.


With the elephant sitting on one side of the seesaw and donkeys, monkeys, gnus and LaRoache on the other side I wonder why we don't super glue the donkeys, monkeys etc. together and call them something spiffy and as one unseat the elephant.

That "glue" you(they) are looking for is called a platform of ideas. Guess they need to start working on figuring out what they really stand for otherwise that "glue" is just a bunch of goo and no sticky :p

CkG

A Cadyewumpus no doubt..;)

The Donkey has a plank or two as does the monkey.... LaRoache stays at the little hotel in the darkened pantry but, the Gnu... he has the best of planks... and the glue.:)

The way I see it - these "animals" (as you call them:p) are sharpening their planks to make spears, but what they are failing to realize is that spears aren't comfortable to stand(or run) on ;) and if their aim is off just the slightest bit - they miss the target.

CkG
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Like Republicans, Democrats don't stand for anything.

I'm not sure what they stand for and of that what they actually do...

I think I'm gonna go to Libertarian...