Poll shows U.S. views on Muslim-Americans

[Aimster]

"Nearly half of Americans believe their rights should be restricted, according to survey"

I sure as hell would never sign up for anything. If anyone told me I should have my rights limited I'd tell them to go to hell.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6729916/

 

[rickn]

American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

What about an Indian Hindu from a Musim? Or a Sikh? You know, like that guy who was murdered after 9/11 because some murderers thought he was Muslim.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

What about an Indian Hindu from a Musim? Or a Sikh? You know, like that guy who was murdered after 9/11 because some murderers thought he was Muslim.

Exactly why 40% of the U.S feels this way. They have no information on the religion and only believe what they want to believe.

 

[Dudd]

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

Does anyone else find the blind generalization of Americans absolutely hilarious in this context?

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: Dudd

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

Does anyone else find the blind generalization of Americans absolutely hilarious in this context?

Of course, because it IS ridiculous. If its true, then all French are cowards, all Germans are Nazis, and all Italians are mobsters. No offense intended to the poster, but he sounds exactly like those he's criticizing. Like I said in the other thread on this topic...

After the Fetterman Massacre, there was a backlash against Native Americans. After Pearl Harbor, there was a backlash against Japanese. After 9/11, there is a backlash against Muslims. A US Marine just killed a Romanian music star, and Romanians are pissed at all Americans in their country. Sad, wrong, but human nature nonetheless. So I wouldn't make it out to be more than it is. Yes, it sucks, but people are like that sometimes. Its called a reaction to FEAR, or maybe even post-traumatic stress.

But America's past shows that not only do we recover from it, we usually try to make up for it (which doesn't make it right, but does show that we regret our behavior). So in my opinion, recent events, as horrible as they've been, have not and will not alter America permanently. Most of us will return to normal...and those that don't were ignorant even before 9/11.

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

What about an Indian Hindu from a Musim? Or a Sikh? You know, like that guy who was murdered after 9/11 because some murderers thought he was Muslim.

Exactly why 40% of the U.S feels this way. They have no information on the religion and only believe what they want to believe.

I think you mean 51% ..

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

What about an Indian Hindu from a Musim? Or a Sikh? You know, like that guy who was murdered after 9/11 because some murderers thought he was Muslim.

Exactly why 40% of the U.S feels this way. They have no information on the religion and only believe what they want to believe.

I think you mean 51% ..

Technically, its around 50.8-9ish. 😉

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

Ben Franklin had it right when he said that those who trade freedom for security deserve neither. I guess if you can trade your neighbor's freedom for your own security, it's even easier.

 

[ntdz]

I dont agree with those views, no rights should be taken away from anyone b/c of their religion or ethnicity.

 

[Steeplerot]

Damn Aimster I just saw that thread with you gettin pwnd by your girlfriend, I should wander outside P&N more often. When mine gets home shes gonna get a big laugh. 😀
*Still doesen't beat the Nik "show me your desk" ownage though*
-To stay OT ummm Bush is teh ant1kr1st! H3s taking teh fr33d0ms!



We need a "best-of" p&n ownage thread


heheheh ownage hopefully you kicked her ass to the curb lol

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

What about an Indian Hindu from a Musim? Or a Sikh? You know, like that guy who was murdered after 9/11 because some murderers thought he was Muslim.

Some countries legally allow religious profiling. I think Germany does it, but I'm not sure how they do it.

I think that there is a lot of people that would want everyone's civil rights restricted, especially with support of things like the Patriot Act.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: rickn
American's are pretty stupid and arrogant for the most part. How do you profile a caucasian muslim, or an asian muslim? Timothy McVeigh was not a muslim, and even if he was, he'd have slipped thru the cracks. Just how many other Tim's are out there, waiting their turn. How many dark skinned Arabs could pass for Mexicans?

A Timothy McVeigh wannabe was caught wanting to bomb a Chicago federal building. What's up with white Americans wanting to destroy the federal government?

 

[her209]

Why do you have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist?

 

[Megamorph]

Quite frankly, I am shocked that a larger percentage of the population doesn't support restrictions on Muslims. I have to ask myself, "How stupid are people?" The bottom line is this -- the vast majority of terrorists roaming the earth today are Muslims. It's not right-wing Christians, wacked-out liberals, tree-huggers, Asians, Mexicans, Baptists, Catholics, Indians, Scientologists, Pantera fans, or any other group. It is MUSLIMS. More specifically those of Middle Eastern descent.

One of the primary responsibilites of the U.S. government is to protect its people. Political correctness should not stand in the way of a legitimate effort to do this. It makes perfect sense to restrict and control Muslims in the United States. Just as it makes perfect sense to profile Muslims at the airport and other places. Not doing so only places more lives at risk and further threatens the security of this country. If Muslims are offended by this or cannot accept it, there are alternatives. They were not forced to come to this country and are not forced to stay here. Muslim-Americans are just going to have to accept the fact that the security of the United States and its population is the most important factor.

Not restricting the civil liberties of Muslims, or any other group of people, for the greater good of the country would be ridiculous.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Megamorph
Quite frankly, I am shocked that a larger percentage of the population doesn't support restrictions on Muslims. I have to ask myself, "How stupid are people?" The bottom line is this -- the vast majority of terrorists roaming the earth today are Muslims. It's not right-wing Christians, wacked-out liberals, tree-huggers, Asians, Mexicans, Baptists, Catholics, Indians, Scientologists, Pantera fans, or any other group. It is MUSLIMS. More specifically those of Middle Eastern descent.

Sure, maybe. But how many Muslim-Americans are terrorists? Not that many.

 

[Megamorph]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Sure, maybe. But how many Muslim-Americans are terrorists? Not that many.

The point is that it doesn't take that many. Terrorists have the unfortunate advantage of being very effective in small numbers.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Megamorph

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Sure, maybe. But how many Muslim-Americans are terrorists? Not that many.

The point is that it doesn't take that many. Terrorists have the unfortunate advantage of being very effective in small numbers.

What a cop out!

We're not talking "Political Correctness".

We're talking violating the civil rights of AMERICAN citizens.

WTF are you talking about when you say "They were not forced to come to this country and are not forced to stay here."?? Have you ever considered that many were BORN in The United States of America?!

 

[PizzaYummy]

We should just have intelligence infiltrating all Muslim groups and societies here and determining a list of all the Muslims who are friendly towards extremists or extremism in general.
Then those Muslims can be closely monitored for subversive activity. This way no one's rights would be violated.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: her209
Why do you have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist?

You dont have to be but ~70% of the known terrorist organizations are Islamic based. Closests 2nd is socialist.

Reading the 9-11 commish is really quite scary. You have clerics in Brooklyn recruiting and professing the evil sins and jihad against the very country they reside in.

It is a scary proposition to limit freedoms on a group of people in this country. But the simple fact is a certain part of this country will attack it over religious jihad.

I have no idea how to combat such a thing. Limit the freedoms and you destroy the countries foundations. Dont go after them and they destroy the country on their terms.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: her209
Why do you have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist?

You dont have to be but ~70% of the known terrorist organizations are Islamic based. Closests 2nd is socialist.

Reading the 9-11 commish is really quite scary. You have clerics in Brooklyn recruiting and professing the evil sins and jihad against the very country they reside in.

It is a scary proposition to limit freedoms on a group of people in this country. But the simple fact is a certain part of this country will attack it over religious jihad.

I have no idea how to combat such a thing. Limit the freedoms and you destroy the countries foundations. Dont go after them and they destroy the country on their terms.

I want links to sources, either provide that or admit you are just talking out of your ass.

30% of all terrorist oganizations are socialists, now BACK THAT UP!

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: her209
Why do you have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist?

You dont have to be but ~70% of the known terrorist organizations are Islamic based. Closests 2nd is socialist.

Reading the 9-11 commish is really quite scary. You have clerics in Brooklyn recruiting and professing the evil sins and jihad against the very country they reside in.

It is a scary proposition to limit freedoms on a group of people in this country. But the simple fact is a certain part of this country will attack it over religious jihad.

I have no idea how to combat such a thing. Limit the freedoms and you destroy the countries foundations. Dont go after them and they destroy the country on their terms.

I want links to sources, either provide that or admit you are just talking out of your ass.

30% of all terrorist oganizations are socialists, now BACK THAT UP!

Well, obviously in his mind "socialists" = "anyone who didn't vote for Bush".

 

[jahawkin]

The survey conducted by Cornell University also found that Republicans and people who described themselves as highly religious were more apt to support curtailing Muslims? civil liberties than Democrats or people who are less religious.

Why do Republicans and highly religious people hate freedom??

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Megamorph
Quite frankly, I am shocked that a larger percentage of the population doesn't support restrictions on Muslims. I have to ask myself, "How stupid are people?" The bottom line is this -- the vast majority of terrorists roaming the earth today are Muslims. It's not right-wing Christians, wacked-out liberals, tree-huggers, Asians, Mexicans, Baptists, Catholics, Indians, Scientologists, Pantera fans, or any other group. It is MUSLIMS. More specifically those of Middle Eastern descent.

One of the primary responsibilites of the U.S. government is to protect its people. Political correctness should not stand in the way of a legitimate effort to do this. It makes perfect sense to restrict and control Muslims in the United States. Just as it makes perfect sense to profile Muslims at the airport and other places. Not doing so only places more lives at risk and further threatens the security of this country. If Muslims are offended by this or cannot accept it, there are alternatives. They were not forced to come to this country and are not forced to stay here. Muslim-Americans are just going to have to accept the fact that the security of the United States and its population is the most important factor.

Not restricting the civil liberties of Muslims, or any other group of people, for the greater good of the country would be ridiculous.

Go back under your rock and stay there.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: her209
Why do you have to be a Muslim to be a terrorist?

You dont have to be but ~70% of the known terrorist organizations are Islamic based. Closests 2nd is socialist.

Reading the 9-11 commish is really quite scary. You have clerics in Brooklyn recruiting and professing the evil sins and jihad against the very country they reside in.

It is a scary proposition to limit freedoms on a group of people in this country. But the simple fact is a certain part of this country will attack it over religious jihad.

I have no idea how to combat such a thing. Limit the freedoms and you destroy the countries foundations. Dont go after them and they destroy the country on their terms.

Jihad? What Jihad? You see American Muslims rising up to attack and calling a Jihad? That is one of the funniest things I've read all day. Thank you for the laugh.