***POLL*** Should smoking be illegal?

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Smoking should be legal in Bars, Casinos, Resturants and so on.
I agree with smoking being banned from offices and other public places.

I really hate the Anti-smoking Nazis.

Amen to that!! What really pisses me off is that our goverment is one two faced bitch!! They Embrace Neo Nazi Anti-Smoking Liberals on one side but on the other they have NO intention of banning smoking because they make easy money taxing the living $hit out of people who are hopelessly addicted to Nicotine.

People who preach against smokers who never been addicted to nicotine can blow me :disgust:

That also goes for the liberal pricks in government who pass sweeping non-smoker laws without giving a $hit about Tax paying businesses and Smoker's needs.

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[waggy]

i think that banning smokeing in a private establishment is silly. When i go to a bar i dont complain about smokeing. heck i even expect it when i go.

Now in my home i dont allow smokeing. you want to smoke? fine go outside near the barn. my house/car is smokefree.

 

[StageLeft]

Emissions from cars kill more people yearly with breathing problems than second-hand smoke in Toronto.
Why not ban cars?

Because I can't walk 20 miles each way to work?

Anybody still saying "let private companies decide" should think about this: Let's say I own one of two malls in a city and I ban smoking. Guess where the smokers will go? The other mall. They'll just stop coming to mine, and my business fails. A few more non smokers may come, but I'm screwed. So will i do it? Of course now. However, if both me and the other mall decide to ban it together the smokers go "Oh well, this sucks, but I have to go to the mall." and business stays the same. Smokers have a choke hold that a single business is powerless to slip out of without either all ganging up, or illegalizing the smoking.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Should be illegalized across the board in public and taxes in turn brought up to the point where smokers are paying for the health costs that they inevitably draw upon the system when their lungs start to rott.

Instead of taxed to the gills like they are now and have the government waste the money AND allow people to sue cigarette companies?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: DrNoobie

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Now I'm a conservative, and I don't think smoking should be banned anywhere, except for in hospitals, schools and oil refineries, and of course private places that choose to ban smoking. It's not up to the government to decide where one can light up. Second hand smoke is overhyped just as much as global warming. Eating in a smoke filled restaurant twice a week will not kill you.

Quite wrong. It might not kill you, but it will do significant damage to your lungs. Before arguing that second hand smoke is overhyped, please take a look at the lungs of a non-smoker who works in a environment where many smoke daily. They're not too much different than the lungs of a person who smokes a pack a day.

I meant that the occasional inhalation of second hand smoke is way overhyped, and that is what the majority of people are afraid of. If someone doesn't want to be around constant second hand smoke, they don't have to work in a smoke filled workplace... quite simple, really.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Should be illegalized across the board in public and taxes in turn brought up to the point where smokers are paying for the health costs that they inevitably draw upon the system when their lungs start to rott.

Instead of taxed to the gills like they are now and have the government waste the money AND allow people to sue cigarette companies?

It's a mess.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Should be illegalized across the board in public and taxes in turn brought up to the point where smokers are paying for the health costs that they inevitably draw upon the system when their lungs start to rott.

Instead of taxed to the gills like they are now and have the government waste the money AND allow people to sue cigarette companies?

It's a mess.

Smokers should not be allowed to sue cigarette companies, just as the family of a murder victim should not be allowed to sue gun manufaturers. Whatever happened to personal responsibility in this country?

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Other: I think that a shop owner should be able to decide whether he wants his establishment to allow smoking or non smoking. He should need to have a big sign when you walk in though noting that it is a Smoking Establishment and enter at your own risk.To bascically tell people that if you choose to eat in this building then you have no right to bitch about the smoking. If you don't like it don't eat here.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13
Other: I think that a shop owner should be able to decide whether he wants his establishment to allow smoking or non smoking. He should need to have a big sign when you walk in though noting that it is a Smoking Establishment and enter at your own risk.To bascically tell people that if you choose to eat in this building then you have no right to bitch about the smoking. If you don't like it don't eat here.

Exactly... if the owner starts losing business as a result, then I'm sure he will change to a no-smoking policy. Gotta love free markets.

 

[CtK]

YES.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13
Other: I think that a shop owner should be able to decide whether he wants his establishment to allow smoking or non smoking. He should need to have a big sign when you walk in though noting that it is a Smoking Establishment and enter at your own risk.To bascically tell people that if you choose to eat in this building then you have no right to bitch about the smoking. If you don't like it don't eat here.

Preach on brother.
Let the owners of an establishment decide what he wants to do. Leave the government out of this.
The issue is self regulating. If people do not like a restaurant that permits or has banned smoking they won't go there ----> he is out of business, end of story.