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Poll: Should it be illegal to fire someone solely based on sexual orientation (gay/transgender)

Should it be illegal for employers to fire someone because they are gay or transgender?

  • It should be illegal

    Votes: 56 100.0%

  • Employer should have the right to fire people for being gay or transgender

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    56
Sexual Orientation and Gender Dysphoria are not related in any way.

I'd say the answer is not the same between the two, and frankly, employers can make any cover excuse they want to fire anyone at any time. All this law does is ask them to lie politely over their true reason(s), whatever they are.
 
It's gender discrimination. But we got a bunch of Catholic conservative men running our courts, and they only see discrimination against Christians. I don't expect that to change until Democrats reform the courts.
 
I can't vote because the question is far to broad. In some circumstances the answer is yes, in others it's no. Most often the answer will be "shut up and sit down". Your employer doesn't need to know anything about your sexulaty, so don't mention it. If you choose to make a fuss over it, expect consequences. As an employer, my attitude is that I don't care who your banging, as long as that person is 18 and it's consensual, it's none of my business.
 
Jaskalas said:
Sexual Orientation and Gender Dysphoria are not related in any way.

I'd say the answer is not the same between the two, and frankly, employers can make any cover excuse they want to fire anyone at any time. All this law does is ask them to lie politely over their true reason(s), whatever they are.
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I think people lose sight of this or don’t understand it. They are two very different things but get lumped together as if they were one.
 
Should it be illegal to fire someone solely for being a white Christian straight male?

If your answer to that is yes, then it should be yes to the OP as well. And vice versa.
 
Greenman said:
I can't vote because the question is far to broad. In some circumstances the answer is yes, in others it's no. Most often the answer will be "shut up and sit down". Your employer doesn't need to know anything about your sexulaty, so don't mention it. If you choose to make a fuss over it, expect consequences. As an employer, my attitude is that I don't care who your banging, as long as that person is 18 and it's consensual, it's none of my business.
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As an employer, are you applying this attitude uniformly? Are you just as disinterested in the sex lives of your straight employees as the LGBT ones? What are those who don't discuss their sexuality at all, but display outward signs of it? What happens when the employee doesn't mention their sexuality to their employer, but their employer finds out anyway, and the employer makes a fuss about it? Should the employer then be free of consequence?
 
Jaskalas said:
Sexual Orientation and Gender Dysphoria are not related in any way.
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So are you saying that it's ok to fire someone who is gay just for being gay, or your ok to fire someone with gender dysphoria just for having that?
Which one are you saying that it's ok to discriminate against?
 
Greenman said:
I can't vote because the question is far to broad. In some circumstances the answer is yes, in others it's no. Most often the answer will be "shut up and sit down". Your employer doesn't need to know anything about your sexulaty, so don't mention it. If you choose to make a fuss over it, expect consequences. As an employer, my attitude is that I don't care who your banging, as long as that person is 18 and it's consensual, it's none of my business.
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Precisely my answer as well.

No one should know you're gay/straight/transgender/into unicorns/brony because no one should be talking about which sexual orifice they prefer in which hole from whichever gender. If it comes up in casual office banter such as "I took my husband to the baseball game yesterday" then obviously no one should have any repercussions for saying something like that.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Precisely my answer as well.

No one should know you're gay/straight/transgender/into unicorns/brony because no one should be talking about which sexual orifice they prefer in which hole from whichever gender. If it comes up in casual office banter such as "I took my husband to the baseball game yesterday" then obviously no one should have any repercussions for saying something like that.
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What about company parties or bring your boss home to have dinner? Under what circumstances would it be ok to bring family/children. Or should they just not go for fear of retaliation? That seems discrimatory to me.
 
cscpianoman said:
What about company parties or bring your boss home to have dinner? Under what circumstances would it be ok to bring family/children. Or should they just not go for fear of retaliation? That seems discrimatory to me.
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It should always be okay - just don't talk about it as if you're special or talk about sexual related things. It's not like straight people go around telling people what their sexual fetish is. I think where it gets more questionable/grey area is where you start talking about the gendered bathroom bullshit - to which point I would just say fuck it and make them all individual unisex ones just to appease the morons.

I mean, you do understand what happens in things like pride parades right? Tell me this - do they all wear reasonable clothing and march for their rights, or do they wear skimpy and downright questionable clothing in front of children in an effort to push boundaries?
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Precisely my answer as well.

No one should know you're gay/straight/transgender/into unicorns/brony because no one should be talking about which sexual orifice they prefer in which hole from whichever gender. If it comes up in casual office banter such as "I took my husband to the baseball game yesterday" then obviously no one should have any repercussions for saying something like that.
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No one should know but if it comes up sounds an awful lot like wanting your cake and eating it too.
 
The fact that we need a discussion about this subject just proves the US is the backwoods of the first world. It's 2019 not 1954. If we're not evolving as a society we aren't thriving. I say this as someone who has evolved on the issue.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It really is that simple.
 
balloonshark said:
The fact that we need a discussion about this subject just proves the US is the backwoods of the first world. It's 2019 not 1954. If we're not evolving as a society we aren't thriving. I say this as someone who has evolved on the issue.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It really is that simple.
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If only it were that simple....

The ol' "If you disagree with me than you're just ignorant" argument. Where have I heard that one...

 
balloonshark said:
The fact that we need a discussion about this subject just proves the US is the backwoods of the first world. It's 2019 not 1954. If we're not evolving as a society we aren't thriving. I say this as someone who has evolved on the issue.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." It really is that simple.
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Yea, the Golden rule is a good one to live by.
 
Vic said:
Should it be illegal to fire someone solely for being a white Christian straight male?

If your answer to that is yes, then it should be yes to the OP as well. And vice versa.
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Forgive me but I can't see how the conservative answer to that can be anything other than a resounding yes, that it not only should it be legal to fire white Christian males but practically imperative to do so.

The capacity to discern differences, to discriminate between one thing and another is a vital evolutionary survival skill honed and sharpened over millions of years by survival of the fittest. We need to perceive the difference between a snake and a stick, a tiger and shadows cast on the forest floor by the sun, ripe fruit from rotten, maggoty meat from fresh, etc etc etc. Discrimination is good. It only became a problem with the invention of language, the naming of things good and bad. After that we could harness our revulsion and defensive reflexes to things named by words and concepts. We can call the devil a snake and tell our children he possesses this or that man.

This is the perfect tool for the church to claim omnipotence in naming evil things. Once evil comes on the scene and gets internalized as belief, it is always the believers that become the greatest threat to humanity. Any bigot whose bigotry is religiously based, becomes extremely dangerous and we have a huge history of religious persecution to prove beyond any doubt that fact.

This is why it is vital that we be able to get rid of white Christian men. If they worm their way into your organization you're fucked. They will crucify any who don't believe what they believe. It how they will try to save the world when it's people like them it needs to be saved from.

Discrimination isn't only vital, it is positively good. The only problem is knowing evil for what it really is, not what you were told it is and terrified into believing.

Thus you should be able to see not that WCM are far far more dangerous to society generally , than a much much smaller and less lethal group of those who differ sexually. None of them seem to be on about taking jobs from straight people. We need to get the really worthless ones first, the mentally affected with the bigotry disease. Geez, if you want to be a self righteous asshole, there should be a price. No?
 
Didn't read the poll right. 😳 😳😳 Of course this should be illegal. An employee's sexual orientation
is non of the employers business!
 
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s0me0nesmind1 said:
It should always be okay - just don't talk about it as if you're special or talk about sexual related things. It's not like straight people go around telling people what their sexual fetish is. I think where it gets more questionable/grey area is where you start talking about the gendered bathroom bullshit - to which point I would just say fuck it and make them all individual unisex ones just to appease the morons.

I mean, you do understand what happens in things like pride parades right? Tell me this - do they all wear reasonable clothing and march for their rights, or do they wear skimpy and downright questionable clothing in front of children in an effort to push boundaries?
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The obviously false (and ridiculously biased) premise in the bolded is why the entirety of your argument has no merit.
 
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