Poll: Reasons why won't PC USers switch to Mac

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glugglug

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where is the option for "4 of the above"

1) Price - no brainer here.
2) Hardware performance - macs are extremely sluggish compared to even $200 bargain basement PCs nowadays. This will change with the G5 release next month but they'll still be quite a bit behind.
3) Less software available
4) Hard to upgrade

BTW, I used to be primarily a Mac user. Mac's actually did have superior hardware MacOS was better than Windows in the early 90s until WinNT/Win95 came out. Neither is really true today, especially from a hardware standpoint.
 
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mchammer187

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price / performance
lack of software
limited selection of hardware

i might pick up a powerbook though when the G5s come out but i dont think I would ever buy a dual G5 tower setup or an imac
 
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notfred

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heh, everyone says "hard to upgrade". The only thing that can't be readily replaced is the motherboard.

I think you should add "ignorance" to the poll, for the people complaining about upgradabilty and talking about thier 5 button trackballs.
 
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Luagsch

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- games
- hardware upgrade (i want to change the mobo:p)
- software
- price
- speed
- can't stand apples solo-tour on the hardware side (no clones??? wtf???)
- hate apple product presentations (don't know if i have to laugh at them or feel completly fvcked up the a$$)

and in europe it's damn hard to find apple-stuff (which doesn't matter as i don't want one).

to say something positive: the cases look awesome and the large TFTs are great... and thats it...
 
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pennylane

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I'm sure a lot of people would be willing to give Macs a try but they can get a high performance PC for so much cheaper than a high performance Mac.... so... their thought (and mine too) is why bother?
 
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dullard

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1) Price. An equivalent speed Apple/Mac usually exists for most PCs but the Apple/Mac price for that equivalent speed is and usually 2-3 times higher. For someone on a budget it is impossible for me to buy one.
2) Programs. I like games. Most games don't run on Apple/Mac and when they do they come out many months later.
3) I've used both at home (parents), both at work, and both at school. They both can be stable and they both can crash. But on average the unstable PCs crash once a day or so, but the unstable Apples/Macs I've used crash every 10 minutes or so. So that leaves a bad impression. Yes in an ideal world, stability problems can be eliminated - but that applies to PCs as well. Since the current PCs I use are perfectly stable, why switch?
4) I've gone the proprietary route before (Tandy). Sure the Tandy was upgradable but at double the cost. Same goes for Apple/Mac. I'd rather not have to upgrade the mouse as soon as I get it...
5) Compatability with current hardware/software. I'd hate to have to buy a second copy of so many of my programs when they work just fine for me now on the PC.

I have all those reasons not to switch, yet not one single reason to switch? Why give up my comfort for a computer that costs more and cannot run the software that I want?
 
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newbiepcuser

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Originally posted by: notfred
heh, everyone says "hard to upgrade". The only thing that can't be readily replaced is the motherboard.

I think you should add "ignorance" to the poll, for the people complaining about upgradabilty and talking about thier 5 button trackballs.
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I believe they are talking about upgraing their systems with new cpu, etc. On this board, I've seen people change their mobo, cpu, etc every 6 months.

MAC internals are basically the same as PC except with the RISC chip now since they stop using SCSI drives, etc. Too bad people can't build their own Macs, it would be nice to see how OS X runs.

 
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codeyf

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Originally posted by: newbiepcuser
Originally posted by: notfred
heh, everyone says "hard to upgrade". The only thing that can't be readily replaced is the motherboard.

I think you should add "ignorance" to the poll, for the people complaining about upgradabilty and talking about thier 5 button trackballs.
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I believe they are talking about upgraing their systems with new cpu, etc. On this board, I've seen people change their mobo, cpu, etc every 6 months.

MAC internals are basically the same as PC except with the RISC chip now since they stop using SCSI drives, etc. Too bad people can't build their own Macs, it would be nice to see how OS X runs.
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Bingo!
 
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vi edit

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Originally posted by: Killbat
Not so much reasons against, as a lack of reasons for.

I don't have stability problems with any of my PCs. And they're certainly not a headache to operate.
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That pretty much sums it up. For what I need, a PC can do it quicker, cheaper, faster, and just as, if not more reliably.

I've used windows for over 10 years now. It's GUI is second nature to me. Switching over to a Mac on the few instances that I have to is not fun.
 
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pillage2001

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Originally posted by: newbiepcuser
Originally posted by: notfred
heh, everyone says "hard to upgrade". The only thing that can't be readily replaced is the motherboard.

I think you should add "ignorance" to the poll, for the people complaining about upgradabilty and talking about thier 5 button trackballs.
Click to expand...

I believe they are talking about upgraing their systems with new cpu, etc. On this board, I've seen people change their mobo, cpu, etc every 6 months.

MAC internals are basically the same as PC except with the RISC chip now since they stop using SCSI drives, etc. Too bad people can't build their own Macs, it would be nice to see how OS X runs.
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Every 6 months??? That's to put it lightly. :D
 
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MrBond

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Originally posted by: Killbat
Not so much reasons against, as a lack of reasons for.

I don't have stability problems with any of my PCs. And they're certainly not a headache to operate.
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No kidding. It's pretty hard to get more stable than never crashes.

 
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yaak3f

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Originally posted by: GambiT
You forgot to include that the mice Macs only have one button reason.
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Well I couldn't put that up as a reason because I am pretty sure some Mac User told me before that they do have mutiple-buttons mouse.
 
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rootaxs

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Originally posted by: yaak3f
Originally posted by: GambiT
You forgot to include that the mice Macs only have one button reason.
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Well I couldn't put that up as a reason because I am pretty sure some Mac User told me before that they do have mutiple-buttons mouse.
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I think it's not so much the issue that Mac's have multi-button mice, but moreso the fact that even though Mac's have it - they don't do anything native to a particular application without programming it to do so - and even then it's not as comprehensive and it's usually just the usual "cut, paste, copy, etc." commands.

Case in point, right click on Freehand on a PC and on a MAC.
 
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