POLL: Quick grammar nazi question.

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No Lifer
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"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.
 

tami

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rephrase that question to something simpler:

"this is where the boy and the girl is seated."
"this is where the boy and the girl are seated."

which one makes sense? ARE.
 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: tami
rephrase that question to something simpler:

"this is where the boy and the girl is seated."
"this is where the boy and the girl are seated."

which one makes sense? ARE.
Right, but I'm thinking that source code and documentation (as opposed to documents) already covers the plural, and putting are is grammaticaly redundant.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.

When using two subjects, the verb "quantity" is always determined based upon the second subject. The following two are both correct:

"This is where the documentation and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."

Even though the term "documentation" may describe an idea that contains several parts (like multiple pages), the term itself is singular. Now if you use the word "documents" instead of documentation, the verb may change. In that situation, the following two would be correct:

"This is where the documents and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documents are stored."
 

mobobuff

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Skoorb
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.

When using two subjects, the verb "quantity" is always determined based upon the second subject. The following two are both correct:

"This is where the documentation and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."

Even though the term "documentation" may describe an idea that contains several parts (like multiple pages), the term itself is singular. Now if you use the word "documents" instead of documentation, the verb may change. In that situation, the following two would be correct:

"This is where the documents and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documents are stored."

Sounds about right.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: mobobuff
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Skoorb
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.

When using two subjects, the verb "quantity" is always determined based upon the second subject. The following two are both correct:

"This is where the documentation and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."

Even though the term "documentation" may describe an idea that contains several parts (like multiple pages), the term itself is singular. Now if you use the word "documents" instead of documentation, the verb may change. In that situation, the following two would be correct:

"This is where the documents and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documents are stored."

Sounds about right.

Of course it's right; I use my old grammar books from high school as pillows at night. :p
 

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Skoorb
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.

When using two subjects, the verb "quantity" is always determined based upon the second subject. The following two are both correct:

"This is where the documentation and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."

Even though the term "documentation" may describe an idea that contains several parts (like multiple pages), the term itself is singular. Now if you use the word "documents" instead of documentation, the verb may change. In that situation, the following two would be correct:

"This is where the documents and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documents are stored."
That's the best answer yet, and is inline with what I thought inherently this should be, which is "is". Most people are still choosing are, however, but then most people still put an e in ridiculous!

 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Skoorb
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation are stored."

Which is right? I think is. I know why somebody would choose "are", but it's not working for me.

When using two subjects, the verb "quantity" is always determined based upon the second subject. The following two are both correct:

"This is where the documentation and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documentation is stored."

Even though the term "documentation" may describe an idea that contains several parts (like multiple pages), the term itself is singular. Now if you use the word "documents" instead of documentation, the verb may change. In that situation, the following two would be correct:

"This is where the documents and source code is stored."
"This is where the source code and documents are stored."
That's the best answer yet, and is inline with what I thought inherently this should be, which is "is". Most people are still choosing are, however, but then most people still put an e in ridiculous!

Yeah, most people find grammar umpossible.
 

Kelemvor

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Because there are multiple items store din that location you should use Are. Just like it's Red, White, and Blue ARE our national colors. Not Red, White, and Blue IS our national colors.
 

mb

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Unless this is for an English assignment, most people won't notice anything wrong with either way you go.
 

imported_Hi

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its like this

This is where the source code and documentation is stored

This is where the source codes and documentation are stored
 

Danzilla

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it feels like it might be 'IS' because you did use 'documentation', which can also has a singular meaning. Try it with 'documents' and you can feel the difference.

Actually, it's not really that. Just the word documentation, I think. Tried two other singular items tied with and still feel like they need 'ARE'. Just not 'source code and documentation'. Maybe because it's a big word. :) (5 syllables) Just guessing now.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Hi
its like this

This is where the source code and documentation is stored

This is where the source codes and documentation are stored

BZZZZZZZZZT. Thanks for playing, though!