Poll: Poll: What's your Political Ideology???

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Bignate603

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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socialism is dead, some of it's ideas have been incorparated into other parties. I don't think the government should get involved in people's lives as long as they don't hurt other people. Oh, and I did a quiz at some libertarian website, it said I was a fascist, no joke.
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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If we were to homogenize all the core beliefs of everybody here, the result would probably be a straight Libertarian point of view. The funny part is that we're evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, yet even a casual examination of the facts show that the Libertarian issues are 90% mirrored by the GOP platform! Go figure...

Here's A Great Political Ideology Selector

See which party(s) most closly match your own position on the top issues.
 

nd

Golden Member
Oct 9, 1999
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<< What, no choice for socialist in the poll? >>

There is, see &quot;Liberal&quot; in the modern American context.
 

jsm

Banned
Oct 11, 1999
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I think conservatives are more close minded than liberals ever will be. The only thing I know liberals are against are close minded conservative folk.

I don't like christians becuse they follow a flawed religion they tout as perfect. I don't like George Bush because: 1. he is stupid and 2. he bases too much of his decisions on appeasing christians. If he would leave religion out of everything he did politically, got a new and improved brain that could function more adequately, he could in theory be a decent president. Until then, he is going to ruin this country more than getting a little felatio ever did. The guy should go back to snorting coke and running base ball teams - two things we all know he enjoys.

When I was a Jehovah's Witness, my parents always told me that in the final days, religion would be banned. DAMNIT - what's taking so long already?!
 

Noriaki

Lifer
Jun 3, 2000
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Politics are suck! To put it pointedly.

I honestly can't see the difference between the various political groups.

Someone has to lead the country, but I don't give a crap which group he comes from. As long as I have a roof over my head, foot to eat, decent clothes and a little spare change to waste on my computer I'm happy as a pig in sh*t.
 

Ferocious

Diamond Member
Feb 16, 2000
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Libertarianist USA has been dead since FDR took over. And thank God!

Moderate balance (and the resulting rise of the middle class) between the people, big business, and government is what made America the envy of the world during the 20th century.



 

Jugernot

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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none of the above!! My political party is called &quot;Tickle me Elmo martial arts&quot;! It works quite well, the first step is to use all of the dolls from a few years ago and take over you mind with its unresistable laughing.
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I bet your Libertarian candidate more closely matches the GOP platform than the Democrat one. Why not make your choices on the issues in the AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SELECTOR and see if I'm not right. Some of their answers to the questions were vague, except for Bush, so it was hard for me to place them. But if you answer the questions yourself in the selector, you'll see which ideologies more closely match up in the end. Take a look below and just see who is usually the odd man out:

  • 1. ABORTION ISSUES: Which views on the issue of abortion would you prefer your candidate advocate?2. MINORITY ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate support or oppose such legislation as affirmative action?3. CAMPAIGN FINANCE: Would you prefer your candidate support or oppose campaign finance reform?

    • Oppose Reform (Lift restrictions on contributions) Bush, Harry Browne, Gore
      Neither
      Support Reform (Abolish &quot;softmoney&quot; contributions, etc.)
    4. CRIME: Some candidates have outlined their approach to minimizing crime. Which approach do you prefer your candidate stress?

    • Support &quot;get tough&quot; approach,e.g. longer prison sentences Bush
      Neither Harry Browne
      Support preventive approach, e.g. educational &amp; recreational programs Gore
    5. DEFENSE SPENDING: Would you prefer your candidate advocate an increase or decrease in the defense spending budget?6. DRUG POLICY: Some presidential candidates support an increase in drug crime prosecution and penalties while some favor a decriminalization or complete legalization of what are currently drug crimes. What stance would you like your candidate to adopt?

    • Support increased prosecution and penalties Bush, Gore
      Neither
      Support decriminalization Harry Browne
    7. GAY RIGHTS: Some candidates believe that sexual orientation is an unchangeable characteristic and support across the board equality under civil law for gay and lesbian Americans. On the other end of the spectrum, some believe that gay relationships are a destructive assault on the heterosexual, marriage-based family. What policies would you like your candidate to favor?

    • Support legislative equality for homosexuals. Gore
      Neither
      Oppose special legislationconcerning homosexuality. Bush, Harry Browne
    8. EDUCATION: Some presidential candidates support school choice. Others see it as a separation of church and state issue. What position would you like your candidate to support?9. ENVIRONMENT: Which position regarding the environment would your ideal candidate advocate?

    • Support the environment only after considering market and private property concerns. Bush
      Neither Harry Browne
      Support environmental protection legislation Gore
    10. EVOLUTION VS. CREATIONISM: Some presidential candidates favor the teaching of Creationism in public schools along evolution which is currently taught in science classes. What's your opinion?

    • Support the situation as it is now: evolution only Gore
      Neither Harry Browne
      Support legislation including the teaching of Creationism Bush
    11. FOREIGN POLICY: Would you prefer your candidate embrace an non-interventionist or interventionist approach to foreign policy?12. GUN CONTROL: Would you prefer your candidate oppose or support gun control legislation?13. HEALTH CARE: Would you prefer your candidate support increased federal involvement in health care? Or would you prefer health care be an area outside governmental control?

    • Support health care as primarily the responsibility of the individual Bush, Harry Browne
      Neither
      Support health care as primarily the responsibility of the government Gore
    14. MORAL ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate favor federal, state and/or local legislation supporting &quot;traditional values&quot; such as advocating prayer in public schools, promoting teen-age sexual abstinence and restricting access to Internet pornography?

    • Support legislation of &quot;traditional values&quot;. Bush
      Neither Harry Browne
      Oppose legislation of &quot;traditional values&quot;. Gore
    15. SOCIAL SECURITY: Would you prefer your candidate promise to preserve or reform (including dismantle) Social Security?16. TAX POLICY: Various candidates have promised to overhaul the federal income tax codes. They differ in how extreme the proposed changes would be.17. TRADE ISSUES: Would you prefer your candidate be an advocate of free trade or trade controls like tariffs and embargoes?
 

Schola

Golden Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Well on some issues I don't know which but overall I would say that I am more Libertarian.

Schola
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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The difference is huge! I'm assuming you're referring to the Liberal/Democrat/Socialist VS pure Libertarian. Unfortunately, the liberal moniker got to be synonymous with Democrats. That's really too bad. You can easily be liberal and not be a Democrat. Democrat and Socialist should be synonymous. Virtually no difference.

A pure Libertarian wants as little Federal Government interference as possible. So obviously, they are far removed from the Democrat ideology. A liberal also wants little government interference. The reason liberals get lumped in with Democrats is because many vociferous, liberal minded individuals are also Democrat. I think liberal Republicans are automatically Libertarians. Guess I'd fit in with that crowd. And I mean CROWD. I think it's what many refer to as &quot;moderate&quot;.

I believe that quite a few liberals in the Democrat camp are misguided. They're against Socialist schemes, but stay in the Democrat camp because of the conservative slant in the GOP corner. By being against socialist programs, they're already leaning toward the center/moderate position. They ought to be Libertarian instead of Democrat. Consequently, their votes are being wasted on the Democrat's slate when you examine the major issues that they don't agree on. It's mind numbingly, irritating when you give it any thought at all!
 

Ultima200

Golden Member
Jan 23, 2000
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Occording to the site Ornery posted, I am a supporter of David McReynolds, a socialist. I never considered myself a socialist, I thought I was quite liberal.


BTW, what is a Libertarian?
 

jmcoreymv

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Ornery: What Im saying is that generally democrats are left of center and republicans are right of center. The majority of each are just a bit to the left or right, although there are a few extremists. However I dont think its fair at all to call a democrat a socialist unless you want to call a republican a fascist.
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Oh yes, it is. Socialists and Democrats are in lock step agreement on almost every issue. That won't pan out for Fascists and Republicans.

Find me a Republican Fascist site, for example.
 

jmcoreymv

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Alright heres what Im aware of although Im sure that im going to be told im wrong on some of them:

Republicans and Fascists both want

  • Free Market Capitalism
  • Both believe in using force to assert their wishes
  • Tend to oppress the lower classes while making the upper class stronger

And I had some more in my mind but I forgot what they were. Also during the Reagan administration didn't we take out several south american democratically-elected socialist rulers, and put in a few fascist dictators?
 

Napalm381

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Oct 10, 1999
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<< Tend to oppress the lower classes while making the upper class stronger >>

Someone's been reading too much Marx and Mao.