Poll: Marijuana or Alcohol?

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lowfatbaconboy

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<< Accually a small amount of weed can be alright for driving. It makes it so you can only concerntrate on one thing. So if its driving, nothing around you is bothering you. But dont take my word for it, I only heard from a friend. I'm sure I'm probably gonna try it in the next few years, but wouldnt take it often, like alcohol, only occasionally. And plus I heard its better for you than ciggs, tried smoking twice and coughed up like no other, can not take one puff without coughing. But I just veiw myself lucky in that case as I really dont see a point in smoking ciggs, but thats just me! :) >>




actually that doesn't help your driving b/c ur only focusing on one thing....ie your speed or staying btwn the lines or the other cars or hte signs but not all so u could make sure u do the speed limit and then get into the lane next to u and hit a car or run a red light
 

Thegonagle

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<< Interesting fact: Three drugs which will leave unreversable effects on your body are Speed, Ecstasy, and Marijuana. >>

Don't forget acid. That will rack the brain in a big way, much, much worse than pot.
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urm actually if anyone wants to know...damage from X can be reduced or almost gone if prozac is taken with it when ur peaking....
but i still think its a stupid drug and would never take it
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This might be a dumb question, but I'm not afraid to ask: Is X = acid. I was under the impression that it's not, but maybe I'm getting old. I'm never going to do acid again anyway.
 

loosliptcomptrola

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<<damage from X can be reduced or almost gone if prozac is taken with it when ur peaking....>>

I've heard exactly the opposite. I remeber reading a report of how MDMA can destroy your liver and kidneys when taken with prozac at any time. I have a pre-med friend who agrees with me.
 

Thegonagle

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<< now weed is unfiltered so thus worse than cigs and i hear it just makes ya feel stupid and slow >>

It literally does make you stupid and slow, but it makes you feel quite groovy.

Feeling Groovy - Simon and Garfunkel

Damn, I edited it back, since I'm being quoted.
 

lowfatbaconboy

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is X an MDMA? i thought that prozac only damaged ur kidneys with MAO inhibiters

i could be wrong about X i know it prevents BRAIN damage when taken with prozac


and no X is not acid
 

lowfatbaconboy

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<< now weed is unfiltered so thus worse than cigs and i hear it just makes ya feel stupid and slow >>

It literally does make you stupid and slow, but it makes you feel quite groovy.

Feeling Groovy - Simon and Garfunkel
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id prefer something that doesn't make me feel like an idiot or slow

but then again most americans use drugs and alcohol to escape from life's problems not to enhance experiences through moderate usage of drugs
 

loosliptcomptrola

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<<Is X = acid>>

No, &quot;Xtacy&quot; is also known as MDMA or methylenedioxy-n-methylamphetamine. It is a f*cking terrible drug.

All these chemicals that idiots ingest. Herb is an herb, people!! Nothing added, you can grow it yourself. Also in reply to lowfatbaconboy's comment &quot;actually that doesn't help your driving b/c ur only focusing on one thing....&quot; I can testify, being a pot smoker, driver while stoned is not an issue.
 

lowfatbaconboy

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ok duh im being an idiot about the X thing
and i was thinking other acronym =P

as for the pot driving thing ive heard of people getting pulled over b/c they were doing slow b/c they were concentrating on staying inbtwn the lines

and only being able to focus on one thing would logically not be good for driving....but if u consider driving one thing ....it really isn't b/c of the various things u have to do


i would say what ive done before but ive had the experience of being looked down upon b/c of it so im not gona and plus the @$$holes in this forum will use it in other arguments completely unrelated to this, against me
 

Redwingsguy

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What are the long lasting effects of E? I thought the only risk was that you would be going so fast you dehydrate...
 

lowfatbaconboy

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dehydrate and die from it

im not sure if this is the right explaination for the right drug someone correct me if im wrong (its to damn late i can't think straight)

it releases an excess ammount of seritonin and if to much is taken then no more seritonin will be released and u thus become emotionless or depressed the rest of your life

also i heard someone got physical holes in their skull from X from a friend tonight but im not sure if thats possible or true
 

lowfatbaconboy

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yea i go to
http://www.erowid.org/

i have one question ive read that ur not suppose to drink coffe with MAO inhibiters

and i drank 2 frapachinos with some syrian rue which is a MAOI and i could FEEL music in my body when listening to it....not like typically listening to music

was that effect a bad effect from drinking coffee with the MAOI or what are the problems with having coffee, bananas, pepperoni, yogurt etc.(and hte list goes on forever) with MAOIs
 

pen^2

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i am hard pressed to find any alcohol that made me feel really good, maybe a little buzz from beer was alright altho it wasnt all that anyway. social drinker is a term coined for people of my kind i suppose.. at least pot makes you feel good, i dont think most people know enough facts to make rational arguments, my opinion anyway.
 

RossGr

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I have been around for a few more years then most on this board. When I was your age, I remember been offered pot. My reply was, &quot;That stuff is an escape, I have nothing to escape from, No Thank You.&quot; Then In 1971, I walked along the pier where the USS JFK, my home for the next 2 yrs, was tied up. This was an air craft carrier, 1/4 mi long and 70ft to flight deck, 87,000 Tons of Steel that stank of jet fuel and sweat. I for the first time in my life said, &quot;I need and ecsape&quot;.

Over the next two years I pretty much stayed stoned, preferably Moroccan Hash, but weed was fine if that was all we had. After I got out of the Navy, one step ahead of the dogs and narcs, I went to college, were I smoked some but not continually. I completed my first degree in Physics, then went to work. I have now been working for over 30yrs, I have 3 children, ages 23,20, and 7 as well as a 18yr old stepson, I make a good living and do not smoke, though if I was at a party and a joint went by I'd take a toke, no big deal. I do not feel that there have been any long term effects from my use of the drugs. This is not textbook talk or theory this is experiance speaking.

For you highschoolers out there your best bet is to stay away from them all. Drugs will not improve your life, they may make you feel better but the troubles will not go away. Your best bet is to stay straight and sober, work hard at your school work and enjoy your life. There is plenty of time for experimenting with drugs do not rush it. You will find, when you are on your own that the carefree days of highschool WERE the good ol days, so enjoy them, you can do it with out drugs and come out way ahead.
 

J3anyus

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My answer is in this picture, which is a sign located in a major city near you:

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Marijuana doesn't kill people; the government needs to stop lying to everyone and admit that they made a mistake in outlawing it.
 

Elledan

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Alcohol, because it's easy to take more than just a few beers, while when using marijuana, you don't smoke joint after joint.

Both substances shouldn't be used at all, actually.
 

5to1baby1in5

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<was that effect a bad effect from drinking coffee with the MAOI or what are the problems with having coffee, bananas, pepperoni, yogurt etc.(and hte list goes on forever) with MAOIs>

That Coffee Drug is the worst one ever. Now to brew a pot to help wake me up after smoking weed and drinking beer all night.;)

Alchohol is worse because on the mass quantities you can consume. Even if you polish off an oz. of the green in a week it's nothing campared to people who drink a big bottle of the hard stuff in a night and wake up to do it again the next day. Besides all your buddies helped with the pot.:)

I read about MAOI inhibitors in a book called Legal Highs (about plants and stuff that would get you high, but would most likely kill you instead). I think they prevent Amines from getting processed by your body and when you take certain drugs/food it throws your body chemistry out of wack. Lucky you had a GOOD trip.
 

hconnor

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nice comments on this thread. my thoughts very briefly: both are drugs, both have side effects. m is illegal, and is therefore a poor choice for those of us that wish to be law abiding.

there is some evidence that m may result in dna damage. certainly, when smoked it is a lung carcinogen. of course taken orally, it ought to avoid that side effect.

etoh is well-studied and needs no introduction.

part of the problem with m is its history of being a counterculture drug. personally, i am a live and let live kind of person. if you want to kill yourself, that ought to be your right. to this end i'm gratified to see stricter laws about acceptable blood alcohol levels while driving.

m from those i observed in college has far more sedative effects at higher levels, so that a person may not be inclined to drive. thank god.

for those that want to use m, i would suggest you work to change the laws rather than just talk about how unfair they are.

as for me, i rarely drink. don't have the time or the interest. but that's just me.
 

nortexoid

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i'd say alcohol is worse for u, granted that u use them both in moderation...

they ruin different parts of your innards...pick an organ, pick a drug...
 

AznMaverick

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Both are bad, and yea for me both are considered drugs.

As far as other people using them, it's k00l to see others make idiots of themselves...>=)