Yes Olds is dead, BUT the Aurora is not. The next Bonnville is going to be built on the Aurora line and even have a updated V8. Early spy shots look good. Not as clean lined as the Aurora, but close and should make Aurora owners want one, if they can get over the fact it has a Pnotiac badge on it now.
Sales were high enough to keep it another year. That and the ones that are still made are the ones that are sharded platforms so it really doe snot cost that much more to keep making them.
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The problem with the Aurora was it was way overpriced. I bought an Alero last week, and looked at an Aurora on the showroom floor. Sticker price was 40k. For that kind of money, there are better cars out there.
there is no reason to have Olds anymore, for the most part they are just the same car as chev or buick with diffrent name and slight different look, maybe either Pontiac or Buick should go also. saturn cars........maybe they should go also, since sales are down and GM just let the division fall apart.
GM built some very bad cars in the mid- 80's to early 90's and olds got the worst of it, with there quad four engine etc.
PS GM considered dropping the buick or pontiac (mostly Buick) earlier, but they delayed the decsion, then they found out the olds name was the most tarnished.
GM built some very bad cars in the mid- 80's to early 90's and olds got the worst of it, with there quad four engine etc.
PS GM considered dropping the buick or pontiac (mostly Buick) earlier, but they delayed the decsion, then they found out the olds name was the most tarnished.
heck for a while the olds name was almost gone, everything was a cutlass, and that model name was/is very tarnished, since many of them were junk in the 80's and early 90's
GM screwed themselves over in the long run, they say the olds name is gone, but it isn't. more stupidness
GM screwed themselves over in the long run, they say the olds name is gone, but it isn't. more stupidness
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GM really needs to revamp itself if it wants new customers (or just stay alive). Perhaps GM's biggest problem is its outrageous bureaucracy, which slows it down and ruins its competitiveness. Its other problems, like those with design and management, are too numerous to mention here, but I think they could really benefit from following the example of how Jack Welch revamped GE in the '80s.
On the issue of branding, I think that GM should kill all their brands but Chevrolet, GMC Trucks, Cadillac, and a new brand name to replace the Saturn line. Buick, Pontiac, Olds... buh bye! The new Saturn replacement line should focus on the youth market and set itself up as the "Honda-killer." A new generation is coming, and GM needs to place itself in a position to capture that young blood. Chevrolet should pattern itself after Toyota and sell the mid-level with a good variety of competitive cars and trucks. GMC and Cadillac should continue as they are, but Cadillac really needs to pay more attention to just what it is that is creating so much success for their competitors.
On the issue of branding, I think that GM should kill all their brands but Chevrolet, GMC Trucks, Cadillac, and a new brand name to replace the Saturn line. Buick, Pontiac, Olds... buh bye! The new Saturn replacement line should focus on the youth market and set itself up as the "Honda-killer." A new generation is coming, and GM needs to place itself in a position to capture that young blood. Chevrolet should pattern itself after Toyota and sell the mid-level with a good variety of competitive cars and trucks. GMC and Cadillac should continue as they are, but Cadillac really needs to pay more attention to just what it is that is creating so much success for their competitors.
a big part of GM's problem is there attitude, from the broom pusher to the big boys. america owes them, I work for GM and am big Sh!t
I owned a few nice Olds........a '69 442 W-30 convert, a '69 Cutlass S convert, and a '76 Cutlass S. Never had a lick of trouble out of them........nice cars back then. Sad that just when the division was beginning to differentiate themselves from the other clone GMs the division was killed.
Maybe sales of them are up because of the 5 yr/50K warranty.
They are better looking than most of the other GM offerings.
Just too bad they lost their performance cars.......that 442 was a screamer and quite comfortable, too. Tilt, cruise, air, buckets, console, and a Muncie 4 spd. Wish I'd had the foresight that hindsight gives me when I got rid of it.......but 12mpg was just tough in '73-'74 and that little Fiat X1-9 was just too tempting. (Now that was a piece of crap automobile.....doors like tin cans, reliability sucked, but the car handled like it was on rails..........)
Maybe sales of them are up because of the 5 yr/50K warranty.
They are better looking than most of the other GM offerings.
Just too bad they lost their performance cars.......that 442 was a screamer and quite comfortable, too. Tilt, cruise, air, buckets, console, and a Muncie 4 spd. Wish I'd had the foresight that hindsight gives me when I got rid of it.......but 12mpg was just tough in '73-'74 and that little Fiat X1-9 was just too tempting. (Now that was a piece of crap automobile.....doors like tin cans, reliability sucked, but the car handled like it was on rails..........)
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