Poll: Intel CPUs More Stable Than AMD CPUs???
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When will people like you learn? Stability has very little to do with the actual cpu itself and more to do with the other components.....specifically the mobo and chipset. Any cpu whether it's an AMD or Intel won't perform well it you put it on a crappy mobo. Both AMD and Intel make good performing products; it's the components that they are matched with that can cause instability. Now lock this thing up.
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Yeah..and before that they beat the Avs two staright games...your point? Game 7 can go either way...I seem to remember a 4-1 domination on the Avs home ice recently..
Not again...But I picked No difference, because that's the truth. I'm biased if I say AMD is more stable. Athlon is indeed faster than Pentiums, but I don't think it's more stable...
They are just as stable.
They are just as stable.
No. Stability has MUCH more to do with the motherboard and chipset and other factors then the processor itself.
I might as well answer.
AMD CPUs can be stable but to be honest I see on this forum and from service AMD platforms to be less stable then a pure Intel platform. I get too many cracked dies and burned chips from AMD systems not to mention constant complaints of lockups. But obviously stability has alot more to do with the mainboard and overall platform. However if a platform performs less then perfect usually the CPU is singled out as the problem. I blame AMD anyway. Why? It really should be their
responsibility to make sure their platforms work stable. You should not have to only buy a mainboard from companies like ASUS and "special" power supplies just so the machine doesn't lock up. If you add in the cost of buying all the other high end parts just to make an AMD platform stable well that kind of blows the whole price war argument doesn't it? Using i815 chipset mainboards from a myriad of manufacturers I've experienced no stability problems related to the CPU or MB. The same can not be true of the AMD machines my company builds. Even with ASUS mainboards and "athlon" approved PS we still get "issues". Who wants to worry about it to save $40 or whatever the price difference is.
To sum it up AMD CPUS which have no choice but to run on AMD platforms just do not have the long term stability and reliability I've experienced with Boxed Intel CPUs over a 3 year period. I've had bad boxed AMD HSF fans out of the box, something I've never experienced with Intel.
AMD CPUs can be stable but to be honest I see on this forum and from service AMD platforms to be less stable then a pure Intel platform. I get too many cracked dies and burned chips from AMD systems not to mention constant complaints of lockups. But obviously stability has alot more to do with the mainboard and overall platform. However if a platform performs less then perfect usually the CPU is singled out as the problem. I blame AMD anyway. Why? It really should be their
responsibility to make sure their platforms work stable. You should not have to only buy a mainboard from companies like ASUS and "special" power supplies just so the machine doesn't lock up. If you add in the cost of buying all the other high end parts just to make an AMD platform stable well that kind of blows the whole price war argument doesn't it? Using i815 chipset mainboards from a myriad of manufacturers I've experienced no stability problems related to the CPU or MB. The same can not be true of the AMD machines my company builds. Even with ASUS mainboards and "athlon" approved PS we still get "issues". Who wants to worry about it to save $40 or whatever the price difference is.
To sum it up AMD CPUS which have no choice but to run on AMD platforms just do not have the long term stability and reliability I've experienced with Boxed Intel CPUs over a 3 year period. I've had bad boxed AMD HSF fans out of the box, something I've never experienced with Intel.
Bwwwha!
If you like AMD, then I say Intel
If you like Intel, then I say AMD
Bwhahahhhahahhhahhahhahhah. How's that for starting a flame war.
If you like AMD, then I say Intel
If you like Intel, then I say AMD
Bwhahahhhahahhhahhahhahhah. How's that for starting a flame war.
since he answered, i believe what he said. i just dont care anymore though. its not my money. and my stress. it would suck to have a tech job sometimes..
Im not aware of any "special" power supplies you have to purchase in order to use AMD, and Asus doesnt always make the most stable boards for AMD, try MSI sometimes. And only a fool would use el-cheapo components like generic motherboards, RAMs, power supplies and hope for stability, doesn't matter if you're on Intel or AMD. If given a set of high quality components, either flatform will be stable. The argument "Intel can be stable with even low quality components" is getting kind of old.
Re: "No special PSU's" for AMD?
You haven't happened to come across the AMD MP board? The one that requires a special 460Watt PSU (no less)?
The 460 Watt is bad enough, but the fact that AMD had to go overboard & make a NEW design of their own (couldn't they at least have stuck with Intel's ATX12V)? Their special PSU is also not backwards compatible (i.e.: you can't use it as an ATX PSU) AFAIK.
I know of many a 2-way Server (ones that take a LOT of SCA drives) that have considerably smaller PSU's ... AMD need to REALLY look into their power-requirements - get those CPU's cooler.
So stop that argument right there.
Edit:
And just to voice my oppinion. Both make good CPU's, though I would like to see some changes in some bits (AMD - cooler CPUs with lower power req's, for instance). The rest is mostly "living with the chipset". The days when AMD was truly a "2nd class" CPU manufacturer are long gone, IMHO.
They're just targeting different groups & have different values, IMHO.
You haven't happened to come across the AMD MP board? The one that requires a special 460Watt PSU (no less)?
The 460 Watt is bad enough, but the fact that AMD had to go overboard & make a NEW design of their own (couldn't they at least have stuck with Intel's ATX12V)? Their special PSU is also not backwards compatible (i.e.: you can't use it as an ATX PSU) AFAIK.
I know of many a 2-way Server (ones that take a LOT of SCA drives) that have considerably smaller PSU's ... AMD need to REALLY look into their power-requirements - get those CPU's cooler.
So stop that argument right there
. Edit:
And just to voice my oppinion. Both make good CPU's, though I would like to see some changes in some bits (AMD - cooler CPUs with lower power req's, for instance). The rest is mostly "living with the chipset". The days when AMD was truly a "2nd class" CPU manufacturer are long gone, IMHO.
They're just targeting different groups & have different values, IMHO.
<<You haven't happened to come across the AMD MP board? The one that requires a special 460Watt PSU (no less)?>>
Only the Tyan board requires the new PSU, Tyan chose to do it, not AMD. This upcoming MSI MP board for instance, does not require new PSU.
Only the Tyan board requires the new PSU, Tyan chose to do it, not AMD. This upcoming MSI MP board for instance, does not require new PSU.
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