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POLL: If you've seen The Last Samurai, this is for you! *SPOILERS INSIDE*

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Originally posted by: BluBelle
I think Katsumoto was the last samurai. I think the movie was really good. I usually cant stand Tom Cruise but I actually really liked him in this film.
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Meh, Tom Cruise overacted this role like he does every role he takes. The movie would have been better with someone else cast in the role. That said, the guy who played Katsumoto was great, and made the movie worth watching.
 
Cruise ain't the last one; he's a white guy. White guys can't be samurai 😉


I agree though, Katsumoto was the last one.
 
Cruise's character may have embraced the ideals of the Samurai, but he was not Samurai. Samurai (hey, how many times can I say Samurai in the same line???) are raised to be Samurai-experts w/ weapons, tactics, etc that are totally and completely dedicated to their task, from the time they're born.

Cruise's character was some good 'ol southern boy that had joined Custer's 7th Cav back in it's "Heyday" of Indian slaughters, and had a lot on his concience. A warrior, yes. A samurai, no. Katsumodo was the last Samurai, evident by the fact that Cruise's character did not commit Hari Kari when he was defeated. If he was true Samurai, he would have killed himself. But he didn't because he was too pu$$y.
 
What really irritated me, was that Tom Cruise was able to fight like a samurai after like 6 months of training, that is completley unreleastic. I had 6 months of karate and couldn't even break a board. It reminds of that Happy Gilmore quote, "wanna know what's really sad, you've been playing golf your whole life." Secondly, I hated the movie the first time but thought it was a lot better the second time (roomate bought it on DVD).
 
Originally posted by: Chebago
What really irritated me, was that Tom Cruise was able to fight like a samurai after like 6 months of training, that is completley unreleastic. I had 6 months of karate and couldn't even break a board. It reminds of that Happy Gilmore quote, "wanna know what's really sad, you've been playing golf your whole life." Secondly, I hated the movie the first time but thought it was a lot better the second time (roomate bought it on DVD).
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Well, it wasn't like he didn't know anything. He knew how to fence, and he was a professional soldier.

I think Cruise was samurai enough. He did the training, wore the armor, they made him a custom sword, etc. Plus, by the end he was able to tie the second in command. Whether or not its credible is another issue.
 
I thought the last samurai died on the field(Katsumoto). I guess you could say that his men were the last samurais as well... In the end they died, Japan "sold out" and got itself some guns, and that marked the end of an era, blah blah blah blah...
 
I just watched it for the first time, and thought it was excellent - I don't really care if the "English" style of dress started later in Japan than is depicted in the film.

Ken Watanabe is a fantastic actor.
 
Old thread, I know. But better than making a new one.

Just saw the movie for the first time. (Yes, I am a bit late. 😛 Couldn't bring myself to see it in the theater.)

Was Algren (Tom Cruise) the last Samurai? That really depends. Not that I dare to actually compare the two films, but it can be seen kind of like Return of the Jedi. At the end of the battle, was Anakin a Jedi? Or Dark Lord of the Sith?

My point is: What does it mean to be Samurai? Is it having all of the "neat toys," or is it living the lifestyle?

I personaly believe it is living the lifestyle. And Algren did live the lifestyle. Sometimes, one must accept personal dishonor in order to advance the honor of another, more worthy man. Algren needed to live in order to "set things right." He had to speak to the emperor, he had to tell the people how Katsumoto lived.

But I voted no. 😛 As much as I believe Algren is Samurai, I also beleive Katsumoto was the Last Samurai.

Just like Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe was not the Last of The Mohicans. Chingachgook was. 😉
 
Just like Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe was not the Last of The Mohicans. Chingachgook was
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thats a perfect analogy.

tonkatsu was the last samurai. no wait..his name was katsumodo.

just saw this movie on DVD.
 
Originally posted by: DOSfan
Old thread, I know. But better than making a new one.

Just saw the movie for the first time. (Yes, I am a bit late. 😛 Couldn't bring myself to see it in the theater.)

Was Algren (Tom Cruise) the last Samurai? That really depends. Not that I dare to actually compare the two films, but it can be seen kind of like Return of the Jedi. At the end of the battle, was Anakin a Jedi? Or Dark Lord of the Sith?

My point is: What does it mean to be Samurai? Is it having all of the "neat toys," or is it living the lifestyle?

I personaly believe it is living the lifestyle. And Algren did live the lifestyle. Sometimes, one must accept personal dishonor in order to advance the honor of another, more worthy man. Algren needed to live in order to "set things right." He had to speak to the emperor, he had to tell the people how Katsumoto lived.

But I voted no. 😛 As much as I believe Algren is Samurai, I also beleive Katsumoto was the Last Samurai.

Just like Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe was not the Last of The Mohicans. Chingachgook was. 😉
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Just because I live a ghetto lifestyle doesn't make me black. Or just because I'm metrosexual doesn't make me gay. Following that train of thought, just because Tom Cruise kicks ass it doesn't make him a samurai.
 
You guys aren't listening.
It is obvious that in "The Last Samurai", Samurai is PLURAL.

The whole group of them are the last samurai.
 
The Last Samurai refers to all of the samurai that fought at the end of the movie, even the ones that just showed up for the last fight who you hadn't seen for the entire movie.

It's not that hard to grasp.
 
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