POLL: If u kill someone out of self defense, is it a sin?

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Lifer
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If your christian

Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

"If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's " - St. Thomas Aquinas

Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder.
 

Googer

Lifer
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Some one find the text in the bible that says you can kill those whom wish to do you harm. I cannot remember where it is at or what verse it is.
 

ForumMaster

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it don't matter cause i aint christain. my religon has many god including AMD, Nvidia and my devil is Intel. jk. no i don't think killing out of self defense is wrong cause he tried to kill u. right? its his fault he tried to mess with him. besides, how the hell was i supposed to know that chopping his head off would kill him?!?!?! i recall the record for the longest time for a chicken to survive without its head is something like 5 months. so i took his head off, what's the big deal? ROFLMFAO!!!!;)
 

Cooler

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sin is sin but some sin is greater then others.
hence this would be a minor sin.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Cooler
sin is sin but some sin is greater then others.
hence this would be a minor sin.

How is it a sin at all? What should you do instead... pray for him while he's holding a gun to your head?
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Unfortunately, the relatively recent evolution of the translation from "kill" to "murder" is nothing more than strategic revisionism that is specifically orchestrated to satisfy this question and justify killings (for example, the death penalty) that under a strict reading of the text are prohibited.

For example, the Hebrew word, "ratsach," is used numerous times in the Bible to refer to unintentional killings, accidental deaths, and even "justified" killing to avenge to death of another. None of these are murder. Murder is "the unlawful killing of a person," but "ratsach" describes lawful and unlawful killing. It obviously has a broader meaning than the tranlsators have revised it to represent.

 

Googer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Garth
Unfortunately, the relatively recent evolution of the translation from "kill" to "murder" is nothing more than strategic revisionism that is specifically orchestrated to satisfy this question and justify killings (for example, the death penalty) that under a strict reading of the text are prohibited.

For example, the Hebrew word, "ratsach," is used numerous times in the Bible to refer to unintentional killings, accidental deaths, and even "justified" killing to avenge to death of another. None of these are murder. Murder is "the unlawful killing of a person," but "ratsach" describes lawful and unlawful killing. It obviously has a broader meaning than the tranlsators have revised it to represent.

I guess that goes to partialy explain why Honor Killings are virtually non-existant in European and New World countries. But are common place in the Middle East. I guess the translators did a good thing that has contributed to a more peacefull society.
 

Googer

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So far 31 people have voted no and either do not know the bible or just disagree with it.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Lucifer
In Texas I have every right to protect my property. Screw with my property, you can expect a bullet in your head.

Coming from some one name Lucifer, I would not expect anything less... Except torture.

So if I took a crap on your car you wouldn't do anything about it right?
 

RCN

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Originally posted by: Lucifer
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Lucifer
In Texas I have every right to protect my property. Screw with my property, you can expect a bullet in your head.

Coming from some one name Lucifer, I would not expect anything less... Except torture.

So if I took a crap on your car you wouldn't do anything about it right?

I wouldn't shoot you..............

 

RCN

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Originally posted by: Googer
So far 31 people have voted no and either do not know the bible or just disagree with it.

or disagree with your interpretation/ translation of it?
What if your God tells me to kill/ murder someone?
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: Lucifer
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Lucifer
In Texas I have every right to protect my property. Screw with my property, you can expect a bullet in your head.

Coming from some one name Lucifer, I would not expect anything less... Except torture.

So if I took a crap on your car you wouldn't do anything about it right?

I wouldn't shoot you..............

If I caught you doing it, i'll shoot you. If I don't, you got lucky. Do it again and I don't catch you, you got lucky again. Do it again, you better hope I'm not camping out because you're gonna get it.

;)
 

abeal2

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Originally posted by: Lucifer
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: Lucifer
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Lucifer
In Texas I have every right to protect my property. Screw with my property, you can expect a bullet in your head.

Coming from some one name Lucifer, I would not expect anything less... Except torture.

So if I took a crap on your car you wouldn't do anything about it right?

I wouldn't shoot you..............

If I caught you doing it, i'll shoot you. If I don't, you got lucky. Do it again and I don't catch you, you got lucky again. Do it again, you better hope I'm not camping out because you're gonna get it.

;)

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