Poll: IE or Mozilla?

[Nothinman]

I was a little surprised, especially with all the people here who say things like "but it doesn't work like IE, so I won't use it". But I even saw a recommendation for Mozilla on TechTV this weekend, so maybe we will see more people using it.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Nothinman
I was a little surprised, especially with all the people here who say things like "but it doesn't work like IE, so I won't use it". But I even saw a recommendation for Mozilla on TechTV this weekend, so maybe we will see more people using it.

I was a little surprised myself but mozilla has evolved quite a bit, and know I think that its a far better browser than IE. I've never ran into any site that would work in IE but not in mozilla, and I have mozilla running on all of my systems and I recommend it for use to the general public

 

[Nothinman]

I agree with you Spyro, but that doesn't stop people from using IE just because it's there and it's what they're used to.

 

[McMadman]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
It freezes for me in windows 98 at work sometimes (expected), and I've seen it freeze on linux and probably NetBSD. You'll go click on something or whatever, and it'll just sit there and think and think and think.. Switch workspaces, come back, and the window doesn't redraw itself. It happens very very infrequently but it has happened to me on occasion. Definitely not a common occurence though, and likely not the issue McMadman is having. In McMadman's rigs, I see one machine runs windows 98 and the other dual boots 98 and 2000, so I'm guessing the problem is related to windows 98.

Yes, that is the exact problem that I have, currently my dualboot is down, and am using 98 only. It happened to me all too often (this was also a problem back with netscape 4.7x (not sure what build of mozilla it was based off of then)
When this happened, I'd be unable to click any more links or open any new pages until I closed all visible windows, and then end task'd the remaining process.

IE5/6 also have has a similar problem (most noticed when visiting links posted in forums) the window that the link was clicked on becomes nonresponsive until either the link opens or ie is closed (closing other windows usually will solve it)

I suppose a good deal of the "problem" is my habit of opening a new browser window for every thread I want to read, and the same for websites if there are a lot of various links on said site.

 

[Spyro]

I suppose a good deal of the "problem" is my habit of opening a new browser window for every thread I want to read, and the same for websites if there are a lot of various links on said site.

Yup, thats probably it

 

[Nothinman]

I suppose a good deal of the "problem" is my habit of opening a new browser window for every thread I want to read, and the same for websites if there are a lot of various links on said site.

Since I've been using Mozilla I've opened a new tab for every thread and it works fine.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I suppose a good deal of the "problem" is my habit of opening a new browser window for every thread I want to read, and the same for websites if there are a lot of various links on said site.

Since I've been using Mozilla I've opened a new tab for every thread and it works fine.

Hmmm, thats interesting. I've always had things ssssllloooowwww down when I do that. Maybe its version or system related?

 

[Armitage]

Yea, tabs (and cheap memory ) have completely changed the way I browse. I rarely open a link in the same window ... just middle click and pop it into a new tab. I don't get sidetracked from what I was originally doing as easily, or hesitate to load possibly marginal links. Pop-p blocking helps here as well ... I don't worry about getting bogged down in some pop-up frenzy if I click on the wrong link.

 

[Speedy3D!]

opera

 

[Spyro]

and cheap memory

Maybe thats what I need.......

 

[Kappo]

Originally posted by: straubs

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia IE- Its always worked just fine for me, so I'm sticking with it.

Have you ever experienced....No popups?

no more popups


since I am a web developer I need to have both. I use mozilla for testing. I use IE for browsing. I could care less about all that crap that they include. If you can get a plugin for it in Mozilla I can either live without it (because it is most likely annoying to me) or find something that works just like it in IE.

Aside from that, I can view an HTML doc without being on a network and I dont have to install yet something else in order to do it. I dont mind people that prefer mozilla, but on all the sites I work with IE is 90% or better of the viewers. On my personal pages I dont even take non-IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

 

[Nothinman]

Aside from that, I can view an HTML doc without being on a network and I dont have to install yet something else in order to do it.

Huh? File->Open browse to HTML file or am I missing something?

On my personal pages I dont even take non-IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

That makes you part of the problem. The Internet is supposed to be client software agnostic, standards were created so that one person could come up a web page and it would open in anything that parsed HTML on any OS. It's not a lot of work to run your sites through the w3c validator.

 

[EmperorRob]

WORD

http://validator.w3.org/

 

[McMadman]

I got spoiled with 2k due to its greatly enhanced memory/resource management, opening multiple windows was just so much easier than using the same window, when done reading simply close.

When I lost my 2k installation and was forced back into 98, doing the exact same thing would eventually drain the 16 bit resources, and ie almost never returns them back 100%)

I've only got 512mb nowadays, next upgrade will probably be to a nforce board and 1gb of pc2700, if only memory would drop more

 

[ignar]

I use Netcaptor which is basically IE. Netcaptor supports tab browsing, mouse gesture, popup/ad blocking, URL aliases and more. It is not free, but more stable than MyIE. The best thing about Netcaptor though is it keeps all the open tabs in accidental application termination. So, when windows crashes, i can still go back to the last pages I was looking at.

 

[Nothinman]

The best thing about Netcaptor though is it keeps all the open tabs in accidental application termination. So, when windows crashes, i can still go back to the last pages I was looking at.

I get that with Galeon too, I don't think multizilla for Mozilla does that automatically yet, you still have to save sessions manually, but I'm sure it will eventually.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

The best thing about Netcaptor though is it keeps all the open tabs in accidental application termination. So, when windows crashes, i can still go back to the last pages I was looking at.

I get that with Galeon too, I don't think multizilla for Mozilla does that automatically yet, you still have to save sessions manually, but I'm sure it will eventually.

Thats O.K. for me because mozilla doesn't crash a tenth as much as galeon does :/

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Kappo
Aside from that, I can view an HTML doc without being on a network and I dont have to install yet something else in order to do it. I dont mind people that prefer mozilla, but on all the sites I work with IE is 90% or better of the viewers. On my personal pages I dont even take non-IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

Cool, I've found my evil twin. :evil:

On my personal pages I dont even take IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

(did you know that if you use the CSS property "display" (a VERY VERY useful one), it won't even work in IE? AT ALL?)

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Kappo
Aside from that, I can view an HTML doc without being on a network and I dont have to install yet something else in order to do it. I dont mind people that prefer mozilla, but on all the sites I work with IE is 90% or better of the viewers. On my personal pages I dont even take non-IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

Cool, I've found my evil twin. :evil:

On my personal pages I dont even take IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

(did you know that if you use the CSS display property "display" (a VERY VERY useful one), it won't even work in IE? AT ALL?)

Hmmmm, I never really noticed this and I'm quite sure that I've been to your site in IE....

EDIT: Yup, a quick check reveals that your sie is IE compatible, while an equally quick check at kappo.com reveals what can be called, by most definitions, a blank page

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Spyro

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: Kappo
Aside from that, I can view an HTML doc without being on a network and I dont have to install yet something else in order to do it. I dont mind people that prefer mozilla, but on all the sites I work with IE is 90% or better of the viewers. On my personal pages I dont even take non-IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

Cool, I've found my evil twin. :evil:

On my personal pages I dont even take IE users into account. If the page doesnt display correctly then oh well.

(did you know that if you use the CSS display property "display" (a VERY VERY useful one), it won't even work in IE? AT ALL?)

Hmmmm, I never really noticed this and I'm quite sure that I've been to your site in IE....

I generally don't use it for "public" things for that reason

 

[Nothinman]

Thats O.K. for me because mozilla doesn't crash a tenth as much as galeon does :/

Strange, I use Galeon CVS snapshots (they're all that's in Debian sid because of they use Gnome2.2) and it almost never crashes. I've seen some other 'strange' behaviour and all the options from the older Galeon aren't implemented yet, but overall it's been really god for me.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Thats O.K. for me because mozilla doesn't crash a tenth as much as galeon does :/

Strange, I use Galeon CVS snapshots (they're all that's in Debian sid because of they use Gnome2.2) and it almost never crashes. I've seen some other 'strange' behaviour and all the options from the older Galeon aren't implemented yet, but overall it's been really god for me.

:Q

Stragerer, I also us galeon's cvs snapshots (yes the ones in sid), but, unfortunately, galeon crashes all the time and runs noticeably slower than mozilla.

 

[GtPrOjEcTX]

Originally posted by: GRagland
I just tried mozilla and uninstalled it. IE is much more simple, less cluttered, looks better.

ditto

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: GtPrOjEcTX

Originally posted by: GRagland
I just tried mozilla and uninstalled it. IE is much more simple, less cluttered, looks better.

ditto

If you don't like the way it looks then theme it. You can even use an IE theme if you wanted too

 

[Fokks]

Another vote for Mozilla (Well actually Phoenix/Firebird 0.6)

Three reasons.
Speed, security, and NO pop-ups!

Plus yes I do use the "Luna" skin style for Mozilla so that it looks almost identical to IE (even can have the windows 'throbber' if you want) and found most people don't notice the difference if I didn't tell them. (Besides the lack of popups.)