Poll: How many states would vote to keep Roe legal if vote is statewide referendum

[pcgeek11]

Well they have progressive people that say men can get pregnant....

 

[brycejones]

Well they have progressive people that say men can get pregnant....

Source?

 

[dank69]

Source?

Every source will be something like a state rep answering the question "can men get pregnant?" with something like "well it isn't that simple" buried in an article with a headline that screams Democrat Believes Men Can Get Pregnant!

 

[Captante]

Source?

You and I both know very well that SOMEWHERE there MUST be a Democrat that believes this. (right next to the hens teeth!)




Seriously now the LAST thing any Republican wants to do is start discussing believing in non-sensical BS.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

26-40 here.

I think numbers could be skewed by *neighboring* states legalizing abortion, so people in smaller states/states with large cities near a state border might feel more comfortable banning abortion in their own state for the "moral win" then driving a couple miles out of state and getting their own "moral abortion".

 

[pmv]

Doubt it. There's no shortage of bible beaters, but if you strip it away from a party vote, you'll have a Kansas like result.

Ah, but then they'll keep recounting the votes till they can make it come out the way they want. Republicans now think any vote they lose must be fraudulent.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/kansas-recount-abortion-vote-despite-233606876.html

 

[HomerJS]

Based on current events methinks the number is a lot closer to 50 than 40

 

[soulcougher73]

All of them if the people got to vote.

 

[HomerJS]

Look what happens when the people actually get to vote. Republicans try to rig the game.

Ohio Republicans try to change rules to defeat abortion rights amendment

 

[Captante]

The problem is that expecting a "fair" election in GOP run states is asking far too much ..... that's why I don't believe the IRL result would be unanimous.

 

[HomerJS]

..

 

[fleshconsumed]

It wasn't even close in deep red Kansas. I would put money on all 50 but wouldn't be surprised if a few voted no.

I can see Utah and Idaho voting to restrict abortion. One is a deeply religious state, the other one is full of nutcases, arguably one and the same. But aside from those two I doubt any other state would vote to get rid of Roe.

 

[MtnMan]

I can see Utah and Idaho voting to restrict abortion. One is a deeply religious state, the other one is full of nutcases, arguably one and the same. But aside from those two I doubt any other state would vote to get rid of Roe.

Not if women are allowed to freely and secretly vote.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Not if women are allowed to freely and secretly vote.

- Never, and I mean *NEVER* under estimate people's capacity for self delusion, self justification, cognitive dissonance, and self denial.

This idea that "women" as a monolithic block are pro choice needs to die. Plenty of older women past child bearing age, women in families who "aren't sluts", women of teenage girls who "would never raise a slut", and women who had to have their babies due to societal pressure so why should some other "slut" get out of jail free would gladly and do gladly vote against abortion access.

 

[HomerJS]

Based on the Ohio results and what we know today, anyone want to change their vote?

 

[pmv]

- Never, and I mean *NEVER* under estimate people's capacity for self delusion, self justification, cognitive dissonance, and self denial.

This idea that "women" as a monolithic block are pro choice needs to die. Plenty of older women past child bearing age, women in families who "aren't sluts", women of teenage girls who "would never raise a slut", and women who had to have their babies due to societal pressure so why should some other "slut" get out of jail free would gladly and do gladly vote against abortion access.

I have the impression that in the US it's partly a class thing. Being pro-choice is seen as a marker of being an upper-class woman, focussed on "career", and working-class white women who either don't work in paid employment or if they do, do something poorly-paid and tedious, can prefer to valorise full-time motherhood, and hence oppose abortion - maybe there's even a bit of class-resentment involved?
Plus there's religion, of course.

I find it interesting that according to the opinion stats I've seen, the same is not true here. In the UK it seems there is no class-divide over attitudes to abortion.

 

[fskimospy]

I have the impression that in the US it's partly a class thing. Being pro-choice is seen as a marker of being an upper-class woman, focussed on "career", and working-class white women who either don't work in paid employment or if they do, do something poorly-paid and tedious, can prefer to valorise full-time motherhood, and hence oppose abortion - maybe there's even a bit of class-resentment involved?
Plus there's religion, of course.

I find it interesting that according to the opinion stats I've seen, the same is not true here. In the UK it seems there is no class-divide over attitudes to abortion.

While it is true that being pro choice correlates with education somewhat, and education correlates with income, abortion rights are just broadly popular across all income levels.

 

[trenchfoot]

The results of these referendum votes speaks directly to how the conservative controlled SCOTUS is so totally out of touch with the majority electorate. Problem being these conservative judges are so corrupt they simply don't give a shit until their jobs are threatened and even then it seems they think they can make decisions that keep them immune from prosecution/persecution.

 

[MtnMan]

The results of these referendum votes speaks directly to how the conservative controlled SCOTUS republicans is are so totally out of touch with the majority electorate. Problem being these conservative judges republicans are so corrupt they simply don't give a shit until their jobs are threatened and even then it seems they think they can make decisions that keep them immune from prosecution/persecution.

FIFY

 

[HomerJS]

Another deep red state lets it be known their views on the abortion issue.

Anyone want to change their vote?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/26/abortion-winning-strategy-alabama-democrat-00149205

 

[Captante]

Anyone want to change their vote?

As a pleasant surprise I'm going to say yes I will change my vote.... Alabama was not a state I had high hopes for!

Sadly however I still can't go all the way to "50" though, I'll just be optimistic and up my guess to "41-45". (closer to 45) Pretty sure the REAL craphole redneck states like Idaho, Tennessee, North Dakota (etc) will be short-sighted enough to double down rather than admit they blew it big time.

I am however EXTREMELY pleased to hear about the "Orange Monkey puppet" GOP being so stupid on the whole they didn't see this coming. (derp)

MOST Americans are very much not ok with woman being relegated to "2ed class citizen" status.

 

[soulcougher73]

Another deep red state lets it be known their views on the abortion issue.

Anyone want to change their vote?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/26/abortion-winning-strategy-alabama-democrat-00149205

Nope. I'll stick to my "all of them" vote. If the people get the say that is.

 

[Muse]

Two victories for Alabama. Abortion rights endorsing candidate victorious, UA crashes the Great Eight tonight. That 2nd game on CBS was as great as the 1st game was awful.