Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: akugami
Games coming soon with DX11 support I don't know the exact number of PhysX hardware accelerated games but DX11 will equal, or surpass, the number of PhysX hardware accelerated games in it's first year of availability. DX11 is coming. It's not here now, it's not even relevant yet and likely won't be relevant until 2011 but it's coming.
Many of those say TBA. Either way still none.
Bolded the relevant statement for you. Before the first half of 2010 is done, in other words six months of public availability, DX11 will have more games that utilize it than PhysX. How many games did PhysX have after it's first year of availability? I'm counting from when nVidia purchased it and released drivers for it's Geforce series? I think it was one or two at best or was it zero? I'm not really sure but considering that there will be probably 2x as many DX11 games in it's first six months of availability compared to nVidia GPU PhysX's first year of availability means that DX11 is already a more relevant feature than PhysX. Granted both are still irrelevant to general gamers at this time.
Here's a list of actual games that utilize
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1429094 Here's another
http://physxinfo.com/data/vreview.html The second seems to be from a site dedicated to PhysX. The list of actual games utilizing GPU PhysX seems...shall we say minuscule. If there's a better list, link it and not one that does software PhysX cause anyone can again manipulate numbers and show software Havok based games. Unless you're trying to claim iPod games feature GPU PhysX acceleration.
DX11 is more of a sure thing than PhysX.
Eventually maybe, but not for years.
PhysX can still be said to be irrelevant and won't be for years.
There has been more than one comment on the 20% numbers you claim between the GTX285 and Radeon 5870. It just shows your bias more than ever.
My bias? I did not write the article or generate the graph. Nor did I run any of the benchmarks the site used to get to that number.
Yes. Your bias. You cherry picked those charts based solely on the fact that they show situations where the 5870 is not as strong. You did that on purpose to show the 5870 as being weak. I have already highlighted, which you conveniently ignore, situations where I can show the 5870 to be twice as powerful as a GTX 295, which is two nVidia GPU's in a single card configuration. There are many situations where the 5870 performs an average of 35% better than the GTX 285.
That's not considering how some have found inconsistencies that scream "fake data" in those charts.
Answer this question. Would it be fair to now post in every forum that the 5870 is twice as powerful as a GTX 295? How would this be different from your cherry picking of results to show the 5870 in an unflattering light?
Bottom line, the Radeon 5870 is a solid upgrade vs the 4870 and GTX 285.
I disagree 100%.
Considering your past history of manipulating the facts, should anyone be surprised you disagree 100%?
Originally posted by: x3sphere
I have a feeling the GT300 will surprise us. To what extent who knows but I'm thinking along the lines of the 7XXX to 8800GTX jump, so around 30-40 percent performance increase over the 5870. That's why I'm not jumping on a 5870 just yet. By the way, the GT300 is said to be based on a completely new architecture so this kind of performance jump is definitely within the realm of possibility.
Well, I'm waiting for the GT300 cores before making a purchasing decision. Granted my decision is leaning towards skipping this gen of video cards. What's scary is that nVidia has generally trumpeted their cards when they have something great to show.
Considering the positive, not spectacular but positive nonetheless, buzz the 5870 has generated it's surprising we haven't heard some tidbits on the GT300. nVidia generally has great marketing and it would make sense to put out some "leaked" preliminary results to put a damper on ATI's 5870.
Pure speculation time but this can only mean that there is a problem with yield. Whether from TSMC's side or nVidia's design, there is a problem with yield. The other major possibility is that the GT300 is not performing as well as nVidia would like so they really have nothing to show and pure speculation is better than proof that the GT300 is not a killer product. The third possibility is things are all rosey, nVidia has a killer GPU on it's hand but in a show of altruism they are keeping silent so that ATI can sell as many cards as possible before nVidia crushes them. Yeah...like that'd happen.
@IDC, Thanks for the link. Interesting results.
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