Poll: Forget 0.999.... What's 1-1+1-1+1-1+...?

What's 1-1+1-1+1-1+...?

  • I just want to see results

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • -1/12

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • 0

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • 1/2

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • 1

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • -∞

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • +∞

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undefined

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • Something else which I have posted in the comments

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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As per the title, what's the sum of:

1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 + 1 - 1 +....

Enjoy. :astonished:
 

Jaepheth

Platinum Member
Apr 29, 2006
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It's what's known as a divergent sequence.
While it's bounded, it is not monotone (strictly increasing or decreasing)
EDIT: nor is it Cauchy (since you could have a convergent sequence that isn't monotone) Although proving it's bounded and cauchy would not necessarily prove it's convergent either.

https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Divergent_Sequences_may_be_Bounded



A better mind-f#ck is:
Consider the function F(x) = 1 when x is irrational and F(x) = 0 when x is rational (can be expressed as a fraction)
The function is nowhere continuous, and so is not Riemann integrable.
But the integral of F(x) from 0 to 1 = 1
(You can use something called Lebesgue integration combined with the fact that the measure of the rationals is 0[because the rationals are countably infinite])
 
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Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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It's what's known as a divergent sequence.
While it's bounded, it is not monotone (strictly increasing or decreasing)

https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Divergent_Sequences_may_be_Bounded



A better mind-f#ck is:
Consider the function F(x) = 1 when x is irrational and F(x) = 0 when x is rational (can be expressed as a fraction)
The function is nowhere continuous, and so is not Riemann integrable.
But the integral of F(x) from 0 to 1 = 1
(You can use something called Lebesgue integration combined with the fact that the measure of the rationals is 0[because the rationals are countably infinite])

Baby steps, my friend. We don't want to scare them away. :p
 

SKORPI0

Lifer
Jan 18, 2000
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Grandi's series
In mathematics, the infinite series 1 − 1 + 1 − 1 + ⋯ , also written

8ed1c55a1ac34c32acb7e1c72b2176f8b791448a

is sometimes called Grandi's series, after Italian mathematician, philosopher, and priest Guido Grandi, who gave a memorable treatment of the series in 1703.
It is a divergent series, meaning that it lacks a sum in the usual sense. On the other hand, its Cesàro sum is 1/2.
 
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