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(Poll) For next generation: will you go AMD Bulldozer or Sandy Bridge-E?

Which platform/CPU?

  • Amd Bulldozer/8-core @ $266

  • Sandy Bridge-E/4 core @ $294

  • Sandy Bridge-E/6 core @ $583

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I'm personally finding it really hard to figure out what to go.

They seem both like really good options, AMD being a lot cheaper.

Bulldozer 8-core will be $266
Sandy-Bridge E:
- 4 core/8 thread will be $294
- 6 core/12 thread will be $583

I'm not leaving the extreme edition as an option, because I doubt many people will get it.

What will you get?

I appreciate the poll, however let's wait until BD has been released and we actually know how it performs.
-ViRGE
 
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I guess you're right, but I don't think I can edit it.

Personally, I don't think it matters what the benchmarks are. The Bulldozer CPU will not be as good as the sandy bridge-e, period.
 
It totally matters how close the benchmark results are and also how much the systems will cost, not just the CPUs.

I guarantee you that a comparable BD system will be more than $28 cheaper than the comparable 4 core Sandy Bridge E system. This amount of $ will affect how much slower I can accept BD to be before I switch to getting the other processor.

I am biased towards AMD chips because of the way I abuse my chips when I overclock. I'm good at keeping the temps down but I'm alarmingly unafraid of pushing voltages. However, if I can not find AMD to be a good value over the Intel, I'll have to go Intel like so many others have done here.
 
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I agree on all counts. Sandy bridge E will be more expensive.

Bulldozer to me will probably be like 75-85% of the performance, and quite a bit cheaper overall to build. Plus you get 8-cores..

So we'll see.
 
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I agree on all counts. Sandy bridge E will be more expensive.

Bulldozer to me will probably be like 75-85% of the performance, and quite a bit cheaper overall to build. Plus you get 8-cores..

So we'll see.
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I'm glad to say I'm not quite to the level of an AMD fanboy thinking more cores is everything. If BD is 80% of the SB-E and the BD system is less than 80% the cost of the SB-E system, I will happily go with the BD and otherwise go with the SB-E. I'll be looking at benches of things like BF3 and other games that at least try to use many threads well

The SB-Es are all Quad Channel right? I have 4 sticks of 2GB DDR3 laying around.....
 
Bulldozer will be an uninspiring dud, and SB-E is too expensive a platform to make much sense over a Z67 or Z68 platform SB.
 
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I'm glad to say I'm not quite to the level of an AMD fanboy thinking more cores is everything. If BD is 80% of the SB-E and the BD system is less than 80% the cost of the SB-E system, I will happily go with the BD and otherwise go with the SB-E. I'll be looking at benches of things like BF3 and other games that at least try to use many threads well

The SB-Es are all Quad Channel right? I have 4 sticks of 2GB DDR3 laying around.....
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hehe, I'm no fanboy. I don't think cores are everything.

I actually haven't had an AMD pc since my Athlon XP-M back in the day.

But it does make me angry that I would have to spend $583 to get the actual next generation processor (core-wise)... Largely because I'm starting to see some games actually scale based on cores.

My brother's PC was getting 20FPS in 1024x768 in COD6, then he got a quad core processor (e6600 -> q6600), he was getting 70fps in 2048x1152.
 
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CHADBOGA said:
Bulldozer will be an uninspiring dud, and SB-E is too expensive a platform to make much sense over a Z67 or Z68 platform SB.
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I get the feeling you aren't in the market for a CPU and are just looking to feel validated that you purchased your current CPU when you did?

I just hope that at the very least, BD can have an influence on Intel prices so I can pay less for a 2500k or 2600k than the group of BD haters I keep seeing in these forums
 
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hehe, I'm no fanboy. I don't think cores are everything.

I actually haven't had an AMD pc since my Athlon XP-M back in the day.

But it does make me angry that I would have to spend $583 to get the actual next generation processor (core-wise)... Largely because I'm starting to see some games actually scale based on cores.

My brother's PC was getting 20FPS in 1024x768 in COD6, then he got a quad core processor (e6600 -> q6600), he was getting 70fps in 2048x1152.
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I'm pretty sure putting the money on GPUs will still give you more than going beyond 4 cores for at least a couple years. Why not save the extra $290 (diff bet SB-E 4core and SB-E 6-core) or so and use it for another 6950 for crossfire?
 
This is an insane comparison. SB-E is going to be a pro/very high end platform that will not line up at all with BD.

Comparing cores vs cores with SB/IB/SB-E and BD is also a non-starter, in all probability. After all, the die on a BD "8 core" is about the same size as a SB quad+ht chip. What does this mean? It means the so-called "cores" are cut down substantially in space on the BD, which while not certain at this point, probably hint at reduced performance per core vs. SB.
 
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I get the feeling you aren't in the market for a CPU and are just looking to feel validated that you purchased your current CPU when you did?
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Geeez, what kind of thinking is that? :\

I suspect Haswell will be a killer chip, but if my current rig is still meeting my needs, why would I upgrade to it there and then?

Between now and when I do make my next upgrade, I want to see performance(mainly single core performance) constantly increasing as fast as it can.

SB-E brings ZERO single core performance gains over SB and BD will bring the ludicrous situation of single core performance decline. D:

BTW, for dummies in AMD marketing, the reason why anyone with a third digit in their IQ cares about single core performance, is that we already have an excess of cores on the desktop in the Quads and Hex's already here and we know that both Intel and AMD are going to be throwing even more cores at us in the future.

So it will be the most capable of those cores which will make sense to purchase.
 
First of all, you need the i5 2500k on there, as that seems to be the more direct competitor to BD. This is also a pretty useless poll seeing how we have no idea of either price or performance of BD.
 
is there a reason you left out 1155 Sandy Bridge?

early indications of BD's performance suggests the only upgrade path I'd have to definitively gain performance over my current 2600K rig would be waiting for SB-E or Ivy or grabbing an i7 980 for my old 1366 rig.

and unless AMD plans to force Intel into a pricing war (which would be ridiculous given their respective financial situations) even inferring solely from pricing schemes its obvious that AMD is positioning Bulldozer to compete with no more than the 2500K or vanilla SB CPUs, at least on the desktop market
 
I don't care I just want to see a fight and war between the two again. It will be very enjoyable to watch. Will go with the better processor who wins. There could easily be no winners or ties too.

I for one am hoping for a tie. Those are the best situations. Keeps both companies on their toes.
 
Honestly, I am fine for now with 980x, but I am looking forward to reviews. If I do decide to upgrade, I honestly right now do not know which route I would go.
 
Im going soket 2011 at the end right before haswell comes out when the 22nm ivys come out on it.

Ill buy a 22nm 1155 to hold me over untill then.

This poll dosnt not make sence,you have low end compared to high end.Most 2011 mother boards will be north of 400 bucks compared to 150-275 dollar AMD boards.

a better poll would of been socket 1155 with 2700k or wait until 22nm ivys since that is in the same price range
 
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Definitely not SB-E. The next thing I buy will likely be a Bulldozer-derivative (think Trinity) or IB.
 
CHADBOGA said:
Geeez, what kind of thinking is that? :\

I suspect Haswell will be a killer chip, but if my current rig is still meeting my needs, why would I upgrade to it there and then?

Between now and when I do make my next upgrade, I want to see performance(mainly single core performance) constantly increasing as fast as it can.

SB-E brings ZERO single core performance gains over SB and BD will bring the ludicrous situation of single core performance decline. D:
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Both Intel and AMD users who want to get more for their money are rooting for BD to put pressure on Intel to reduce prices and increase research.

If BD is a success then the 2500k can get down lower than the $150 it was at microcenter last weekend.

If BD is a success, Intel could possibly increase research funding so it can get a comfortable lead again.

If money is not as much of an object or if someone is an Intel stock holder looking for a higher earnings report then I guess I can see why they would want BD to do badly
 
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Both Intel and AMD users who want to get more for their money are rooting for BD to put pressure on Intel to reduce prices and increase research.
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Sure, but in wanting AMD to have competitive offerings, people shouldn't lose touch with reality and speak mountains of nonsense when it has now become obvious that BD will disappoint.

If money is not as much of an object or if someone is an Intel stock holder looking for a higher earnings report then I guess I can see why they would want BD to do badly
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Who wants BD to do badly?

BD is going to be an even worse chip than Phenom was in its day, but no one should be happy about this.
 
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