Poll - Expected use of the word "stoning"

[cybrsage]

Not quite as awesome as pouring molten gold over their entire face. I mean like that is how get rid of undesirables.

That is only used if you have a HOT sister and whine about getting your payment for selling her to a horse lord.

 

[cybrsage]

Option 2. However, in the thread in question, a link was provided to an article with 'stoning' in the title, therefore IMO the title change was not warranted.

I would have had no problem with the title had the OP actually used that link in the post. The article he linked to did not say this.

 

[davmat787]

Not quite as awesome as pouring molten gold over their entire face. I mean like that is how get rid of undesirables.

Our Indian friends had a fantastic method as well, death by elephant:

 

[davmat787]

Option 2. However, in the thread in question, a link was provided to an article with 'stoning' in the title, therefore IMO the title change was not warranted.

Did you consider that the OP was intentionally trying to create a "gotcha" moment given the way the title was worded? IMO, the title clearly wanted the reader to assume it was another muslim death by stoning incident.

 

[Infohawk]

I generally agree with Jstorm that this isn't necessarily an issue for moderators.

- wolf

I think this is a moderator issue and here's why. I don't want to post in just every thread on this forum. If there were truly "a stoning" in Israel, I would be very interested in that. Even if it was one isolated event it would be new evidence in the discussion about Islam vs. Judaism and other religions generally.

The mods really need to keep going cracking down on misleading and almost as importantly vague titles. I don't mind a little editorializing as long as the reader still knows what the thread title is going to be about. None of this "Republicans show us that they America" stuff.

 

[Orignal Earl]

When border cops shoot Mexicans for throwing stones, it is because they claim it is self defense. They don't say the Mexicans were attempting to stone them.

The Jews in the other thread would gladly welcome stoning as a punishment under law, but it is against the law in Israel. For now anyways, their power is rising everyday.

Yes the extremists in Islam and in Judaism are cut from the same cloth.

Yes there is a hell of a lot more Muslims then Jews

Yes a lot more Jews and Muslims live in peaceful harmony in the world then they do in Israel/Palestine

In Israel/Palestine very few people want to live under religious law

 

[kylebisme]

I'm getting it from the article that was actually posted in the thread.

That article does not say anything along the lines of "one person who threw a stone at the end".

You know, the one relevant to whether OP knew he was misleading or not...

I know that posting one article preclude the possibility that the poster read other reports on the event. A possibility which seems rather likely given the articles which have confirmed his use of the term.

For example, when Palestinian youths throw rocks at IDF troops, I haven't once heard that referred to as "stoning."

That's because those aren't incidents of an attacker, or multiple attackers, hurtling multiple stones at a single target. For other examples of the term being used correctly, see Man indicted for stoning Egyptian consulate in Eilat and Haredim stone bus in Beit Shemesh; cop injured.

 

[SandEagle]

what about other words or phrases, like:
religion of peace
beloved patriot
cameltoe

???

op is dumbb

 

[woolfe9999]

That article does not say anything along the lines of "one person who threw a stone at the end".


I know that posting one article preclude the possibility that the poster read other reports on the event. A possibility which seems rather likely given the articles which have confirmed his use of the term.


That's because those aren't incidents of an attacker, or multiple attackers, hurtling multiple stones at a single target. For other examples of the term being used correctly, see Man indicted for stoning Egyptian consulate in Eilat and Haredim stone bus in Beit Shemesh; cop injured.

Bullshit. The OP in that other thread used the term "stoning" because he knows that the term is often used in reference to particular honor killings in the Muslim world and he wants to "turn it around" on the Jews. He's the most obvious anti-Semite on this forum, at least since wwswimming appeared to stop posting. You're entitled to your own opinion of course.

And your own source says "to hurl stones at; ESPECIALLY: to kill by pelting with stones." That's exactly what I said, that this is the "USUAL connotation" of the word, and I think you know that very well. Figure out what "usual connotation" means and you'll understand that you aren't refuting anything with isolated counter-examples.

- wolf

 

[SandEagle]

yes, i read multiple news articles and most referred to it as a stoning. i will change the title on my other thread and include a new news link

fvkcng hippies...the whole lot of them

op is dumbb

 

[Infohawk]

That article does not say anything along the lines of "one person who threw a stone at the end".

The article lists several elements in the attack, only one of which is the throwing of a rock.

I know that posting one article preclude the possibility that the poster read other reports on the event. A possibility which seems rather likely given the articles which have confirmed his use of the term.

The ynet article still lists a variety of elements in the attack including spitting and property damage. Again, only using the verb stone in the title would be incomplete and taken into consideration the normal usage of the term stoning, it would be misleading.

 

[woolfe9999]

I think this is a moderator issue and here's why. I don't want to post in just every thread on this forum. If there were truly "a stoning" in Israel, I would be very interested in that. Even if it was one isolated event it would be new evidence in the discussion about Islam vs. Judaism and other religions generally.

The mods really need to keep going cracking down on misleading and almost as importantly vague titles. I don't mind a little editorializing as long as the reader still knows what the thread title is going to be about. None of this "Republicans show us that they America" stuff.

The problem with policing the thread titles for accuracy is that they don't have the moderator attention bandwidth to do it consistently. Hence, you end up with selective enforcement. Selective enforcement is always a problem on these kinds of discussion boards because inevitably people will allege that the moderators are favoring or disfavoring certain posters, or certain ideologies. Indeed, these allegations have been made several times here before, most recently by profjohn.

 

[SandEagle]

Bullshit. The OP in that other thread used the term "stoning" because he knows that the term is often used in reference to particular honor killings in the Muslim world and he wants to "turn it around" on the Jews. He's the most obvious anti-Semite on this forum, at least since wwswimming appeared to stop posting. You're entitled to your own opinion of course.

aww what took so long for u to call me an antisemite? u cant even link to one thing ive said to support your claim. boohoo. pathetic. everything i link to is from jpost, haaretz,ynetnews, or msm. theyre all run by jews. maybe theyre self hating?

if u want to be immature i can be too. i heard u sucked teh ten cawks for cab fare. then u walked home. loser lol

 

[woolfe9999]

aww what took so long for u to call me an antisemite? u cant even link to one thing ive said to support your claim. boohoo. pathetic. everything i link to is from jpost, haaretz,ynetnews, or msm. theyre all run by jews. maybe theyre self hating?

if u want to be immature i can be too. i heard u sucked teh ten cawks for cab fare. then u walked home. loser lol

Yep, you're an anti-semite. There, I said it again.

- wolf

 

[SandEagle]

Yep, you're an anti-semite. There, I said it again.

- wolf

to a loser such as urself, truth is antisemitic.

 

[kylebisme]

The article lists several elements in the attack, only one of which is the throwing of a rock.

Sure, which isn't the same think as claiming only one rock was thrown.

The ynet article still lists a variety of elements in the attack including spitting and property damage. Again, only using the verb stone in the title would be incomplete

Of course it's incomplete, one can't rightly tell the whole story in a title.

and taken into consideration the normal usage of the term stoning, it would be misleading.

Using the term to the fact that, as mentioned in the Ynet article, "They hurled stones at her" is consistent with the normal usage. As the other recent examples of such usage I provided above demonstrate.

 

[Infohawk]

Sure, which isn't the same think as claiming only one rock was thrown.


Of course it's incomplete, one can't rightly tell the whole story in a title.


Using the term to the fact that, as mentioned in the Ynet article, "They hurled stones at her" is consistent with the normal usage. As the other recent examples of such usage I provided above demonstrate.

The original article only mentions the throwing of one rock. You can't assume more rocks where thrown. Just because you got that information from another article, doesn't mean it was an appropriate title for the first article.

And it's still an incomplete description of the event to describe it as a stoning. There were other elements in the assault, which is why it's best described as an attack.

 

[Ns1]

Our Indian friends had a fantastic method as well, death by elephant:

O_O

 

[cybrsage]

truth is antisemitic.

I am not sure if you intended to do so, but this is actually a very horrible statement. Truth is neutral in all affairs and cannot be anti-anything (save for being anti-lie, but that is by the definition of what truth is).

 

[kylebisme]

You flagrantly misrepresented his statement quoting him out of context. Did you mean to do that?

 

[SandEagle]

You flagrantly misrepresented his statement quoting him out of context. Did you mean to do that?

no worries kyle. this shills are trying every tactic in their book. ive seen it all. lolosers

 

[Infohawk]

The Jews in the other thread would gladly welcome stoning as a punishment under law, but it is against the law in Israel. For now anyways, their power is rising everyday.

FYI:

Rabbinical courts have given up the ability to inflict any kind of physical punishment, and such punishments are left to the civil court system to administer. But the modern institution of the death penalty is opposed by the major rabbinical organizations of Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox Judaism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capita...emporary_attitudes_towards_capital_punishment

 

[kylebisme]

no worries kyle. this shills are trying every tactic in their book. ive seen it all. lolosers

By the way, in case you weren't aware, the bit you quoted from Wiki about traditional forms of execution in Judaism leaves out a particularly vile practice used in the burning and strangulation methods, found in Sanhedrin 52a and 52b respectively. Specifically I"m referring to the "LOWERED INTO DUNG UP TO HIS ARMPITS" bit in both.

 

[hal2kilo]

See Monty Python's Life Of Brian for an example of stoning.

Not enought stones for all the axes being ground here.

 

[SilthDraeth]

Stoning - with respect to stones being throne at something until it is dead, be it a person, or an animal.

Location of the stoning has no correlation to the definition of it.