Poll: Do you tip the UPS/USPS delivery guy because he brought a package to your door?

[tcsenter]

$20 an hour might be fine for some parts of the country, but not all. Where I live, the townhomes are priced at $250K and up while the single family homes are priced at $450K and up. $20 an hour won't last you very long in higher priced areas.

Well of course not, and why the hell should it? It's only common sense that you would chose to live in those areas you can AFFORD to live. People go out and buy cars that are twice as much as their income level would suggest they can afford, all the time. Does that mean they're not getting paid enough, or does that mean they don't understand the concept of fiscal prudence?

The question is not, "Is $20/hr enough to afford you to the lap of luxury lifestyle enjoyed by two income professional households."

The question is, "Is $20/hr plus great bennies a pretty damned good wage for a delivery boy."

The answer is clearly, yes.

On Edit: Oh, and as for tipping the UPS guy, I've never heard of that. My mother has always given the UPS and US Mail carriers Christmas cards with a gift certificate or something in them, she's given them homemade fudge a few times. But tipping as a matter of regular practice, no.

 

[T2T III]

It's only common sense that you would chose to live in those areas you can AFFORD to live.

It's not quite that simple. To find housing where single family homes are at the $200K level, you would have to commute 30+ miles. The median income for the county I live in was $82,000 for the year 2000. This is twice the nationwide median income level. For the house prices that I quoted, they are in a "middle income" neighborhood. To get into more exclusive neighborhoods, plan on spending $600K to more than a million for your home. While I'll agree with you that $20 per hour + benefits is great pay for a delivery driver - I'll disagree with you when you say that amount of pay is good for all areas of the U.S. - because that simply is not correct.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Hell no... why would I tip!?

nik

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: wje

All of those guys are well paid union members, making around $20 an hour, with GREAT benefits.

$20 an hour might be fine for some parts of the country, but not all. Where I live, the townhomes are priced at $250K and up while the single family homes are priced at $450K and up. $20 an hour won't last you very long in higher priced areas.

Exactly. My friend is the manager for a UPS hub and barley makes enough for a home my area and was a driver before that and has a BS in business which they give something for. I tip garbage men and UPS/fedex guys around X-mas, Easter, and the fourth of July. I love it when I can put a couch or washer machine on the curb and my garbage guy takes it. Its Only cause I take care of him though since technically he's not supposed to..

As for the delivery guys, the'll go that extra mile and leave the packge with the neighbors if I'm not home and actually take care of the package.

 

[Orsorum]

Nope, they get paid well to do their job correctly.

 

[vegetation]

Nope, but with my business, I give x-mas presents to the routine delivery people. But I get packages very frequently so it's justified I guess.

 

[HiTek21]

Nope, They get paid to deliver packages.

 

[tcsenter]

It's not quite that simple. To find housing where single family homes are at the $200K level, you would have to commute 30+ miles.

Well there you go. Pretty simple. Where is the right to "be free of commute to and from work" in the Bill of Rights?

I'll disagree with you when you say that amount of pay is good for all areas of the U.S. - because that simply is not correct.

Actually, I said you have to GO where you can afford to live, which implies that not everyone is going to afford to live in a community where homes start at a half-million dollars (and there is no place on the planet where houses start at $450,000 that is considered "middle class" by a national standard). So no, $20/hr (to start) is not going to buy you the same thing in "all areas" relative to cost of living, which is why you live where you can afford to live, NOT where you "would like or prefer" to live. Unless, of course, you can afford to live where you like or prefer to, not a lot of people can.

I'd like to live in the 2700sq-ft houses they're building a few miles down the road from me, but I can't afford it, so I live somewhere else, like tens of millions of other Americans (well more than 60%+) who can't afford a home in a community like that.

 

[T2T III]

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It's not quite that simple. To find housing where single family homes are at the $200K level, you would have to commute 30+ miles.

Well there you go. Pretty simple. Where is the right to "be free of commute to and from work" in the Bill of Rights?

I don't think you have a clue what a 30+ mile commute is like in the Washington DC area. A commute like that could easily take you an hour and a half to 2 hours.

The point I'm trying to make that is if a UPS delivery driver makes $20 an hour in 40 of our U.S. states where the cost of living is at a more realistic level, then the UPS driver should be making $30+ an hour in the other 10 states where the cost of living is substantially more.

Again, $450K neighborhoods are "middle class" in this area. You can't apply the national standard for "middle class" and tell me that a $450K house is not middle class. As I mentioned above, the median income for the area is double the national amount, so there is an offset for living in such an expensive area. I'm not trying to indicate that one community is featuring homes for $450K - nearly every community in the county has homes for this price. It's not cheap to live here, but when it comes to education, our county has the best school system in the whole United States which is why it's such a desired county to live in.

 

[BennyD]

i hardly ever tip, only in really nice places when the waiter/waitress was nice.

 

[LH]

Im sorry but it isnt middle class.

That would be calling Highland Park, TX and Southlake TX, "middle class". Both have high median incomes, both have houses starting out around $500k-$multimillion. Both are two of the best school districts in TX, Im talking top 5 here public or private, they also have less than 1% minority population. $450k anywhere is NOT middle class.

Granted commuting would be easier in this area. I mean, South Lake is sandwiched near H-E-B, and The Park Cities, are smack dab in the middle of Dallas. Granted if you hit rush hour in Dallas, its going to be a good two hours for what would normally be a 20 minute drive.

 

[poopaskoopa]

Hell no I don't. If they got paid half the minimum wage, I'd consider. Most of them make more money than I do, it seems.

 

[murphy55d]

Fvck no ,especially not the UPS clown.

I'd consider tipping the FedEx guy before UPS/USPS... he is cool.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

I always tip cops giving me a ticket! Some people also call it a bribe though.

 

[LikeLinus]

<<The point I'm trying to make that is if a UPS delivery driver makes $20 an hour in 40 of our U.S. states where the cost of living is at a more realistic level, then the UPS driver should be making $30+ an hour in the other 10 states where the cost of living is substantially more.>>

The cost of living is NOT substantually more in all of the state you are talking about. You live in a SELECTIVE AREA. That UPS worker does not have to live in that area. You live there by choice. Any other person can live further away.

See i live about 20 miles outside of Nashville. I can have double the size of the house for the same money and i can live in a quiet area. I don't exect my company to pay me 2x the money if i live in downtown Nashville? It's a choice people make. 20$ is good money for someone driving a UPS truck. IF they choose to struggle in a nice part of town, thats their own choice.

Living in a 450k home is NOT middle class. It is upper middle to low high income bracket.

 

[Lvis]

Tip? no, they get pretty well paid. A gift at christmas maybe, if you do a lot of business with them.

 

[joeryu]

I tried to tip my UPS guy $10 a while back, when he brought up 4 boxes up 3 flights of stairs (no elevator) and one of them was a 22" CRT monitor. he politely refused, saying that he's just doin his job. i offered him a drink at least and he accepted that. hell i could barely push that monitor box around the room, i dunno how he carried up 3 flights of stairs.

 

[ElFenix]

no.

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: BennyD
i hardly ever tip, only in really nice places when the waiter/waitress was nice.

looking?

 

[microAmp]

Originally posted by: DorkBoy
OMG, I never would have thought someone would tip them, they get paid enough.

 

[bmacd]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
I always tip cops giving me a ticket! Some people also call it a bribe though.

lol

On a sidenote, we give our mailman christmas gifts and cards when something exciting happens. We've had him for a couple years and he's really cool.

-=bmacd=-

 

[NeoPTLD]

Hell no. I don't like UPS. When given a choice, I ALWAYS take USPS delivery.

Tipping a pizza driver has more to do with your protection, so he won't tamper with your food in revenge for poor tip from the previous run.

If you think you need to tip a UPS driver, then you'll also feel you'd need to tip the McDonald's cashier and the postal man.

 

[snooker]

I do not tip a delivery driver (Other then the pizza person )

 

[Smolek]

Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
No.

 

[venom600]

Well i'm glad i'm not the only one that isn't tipping the UPS guy

Now i can show my mom i'm not the only non-tipper in this world

Oh yea and yes i would tip the pizza delivery guy, for my safety too