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nRollo

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: rbV5
He got them at the G70 launch party...happy:)

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True dat- and you'll note I didn't say "Yippie! I got FREE 7800GTXs at the launch party" - getting those cards cost me a fair amount of jing. (but thanks to buddy at nV for opportunity to get them that day at less than retail)

Did they take Visa when you "obtained" them? :laugh:

I don't really care what you think CrazyFool. If you want to think a green helicopter landed in my yard, and Carmen Electra hopped out with a suitcase full of SLI sets, be my guest.

I guess the important thing (to me anyway) is that I have them, and they're fun to play with. (with the exception of the 6800NUs- which I sold on AT FSFT) Even the 6600GTs kick serious butt if you don't use 4XAA.
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Cool, the old guilty until proven innocent law.

Let's turn the tables like how it should be. Does anyone have any evidence that Rollo was given his cards?

I didn't think so.

Maybe you can explain this statement for Rollo, since he refuses to do so:

Originally posted by: Rollo

Errrr, my cards come from nVidia themselves, Santa Clara return address? I've never made any secret of that, and probably wouldn't have "reference 7800GTXs" in my signature, reference 6800GTs before that, and reference 6800 before that, and posted pics of all if I were trying to hide this?

:laugh:

Last I heard Nvidia didn't sell cards directly to end-users.

 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Cool, the old guilty until proven innocent law.

Let's turn the tables like how it should be. Does anyone have any evidence that Rollo was given his cards?

I didn't think so.

Maybe you can explain this statement for Rollo, since he refuses to do so:

Originally posted by: Rollo

Errrr, my cards come from nVidia themselves, Santa Clara return address? I've never made any secret of that, and probably wouldn't have "reference 7800GTXs" in my signature, reference 6800GTs before that, and reference 6800 before that, and posted pics of all if I were trying to hide this?

:laugh:

Last I heard Nvidia didn't sell cards directly to end-users.

Still waiting for the evidence from you.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Last I heard Nvidia didn't sell cards directly to end-users.


Really? What do you do for nVidia that you can say unequivocally their staff can't get sample cards at a discounted price?
 

nRollo

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Sigh. Thread is way off topic again, thanks to trolls.

No more response from me not related the topic. Perhaps I'll address questions about my motives, receipts, and perceived value of my threads in another thread.

Perhaps not. ;)
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: rbV5
He got them at the G70 launch party...happy:)

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True dat- and you'll note I didn't say "Yippie! I got FREE 7800GTXs at the launch party" - getting those cards cost me a fair amount of jing. (but thanks to buddy at nV for opportunity to get them that day at less than retail)

Did they take Visa when you "obtained" them? :laugh:

I don't really care what you think CrazyFool. If you want to think a green helicopter landed in my yard, and Carmen Electra hopped out with a suitcase full of SLI sets, be my guest.

I guess the important thing (to me anyway) is that I have them, and they're fun to play with. (with the exception of the 6800NUs- which I sold on AT FSFT) Even the 6600GTs kick serious butt if you don't use 4XAA.
But you said you paid for them when you obviously didn't. You made a big point of this, not me. You painted yourself into the corner again.

I am just sitting by watching you trying to be "fair and balanced" and finding it very humorous. :laugh:
 

Conky

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: M0RPH
Last I heard Nvidia didn't sell cards directly to end-users.


Really? What do you do for nVidia that you can say unequivocally their staff can't get sample cards at a discounted price?
Yeah, launch parties are typically where the biggest discounts are found for "staff" purchases. Man, you just keep digging yourself a deeper hole. :laugh:
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Obviously right now isn't the best time to buy a high-end gpu solution with new cards around the corner, but if we rewind a month or two, we see $500 single-card solutions being offered by nV and ATI. Then, you have the <$600 7800GT SLI solution that performs better than all the high-end cards, and is either just a little bit more expensive (compared to the x1800xt at that time, as well as the 256GTX) or cheaper (512GTX).

Employing this logic would mean never buying anything. Ultimately, if you're going to forward the idea of being able to simply play games, at the resolutions and eye-candy levels that are important to you, you're going to have to plant your feet and pull out your wallet. There's nothing "obvious" about constantly second-guessing every aspect of the industry.

I agree about planting the feet and whipping out the wallet. I did 12 months ago when I got 6800GT SLI. But, that doesn't change the fact that there are new cards being launched in like 10 days, with rumors of immediate availability. These cards may outperform (or at least equal) many mid-range SLI configs.

There's certainly a difference between always waiting to see what comes in 4-6 months and waiting 10 days to see. So I stand by anyone's decision to wait and see right now.
 

KeepItRed

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
He cannot keep claiming to have spent his own money if he is not willing to post a scan of a receipt. It's really that simple.

In other words, you think everybody here gets their cards free from NVIDIA and ATI.
I never said that, you did.

Rollo is free to explain why he has no receipt while claiming to pay for his cards. He brought up the "your opinion doesn't count unless you paid" argument... I am just keeping him honest.

I don't have my receipt either, or at least I have no idea where it is. Does this mean I got my 7800GTX free and didn't even realize it? Seriously dude, you have to get off that issue.
No I don't have to get off this issue. Rollo raises it every single time... he claims to have paid for his SLI videocards and maintains that no one else is entitled to an opinion because they haven't purchased an SLI setup.

I claim he hasn't paid for one either.

He needs to put up or shut up.


He got them at the G70 launch party...happy:)

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LOL Like that time he said:

Originally posted by: Rollo
I have seen the specs and MSRP for the upcoming 7800GTX [512MB]. My advice to all of you considering a high end video card purchase in the very near future: wait.
In a very short time, you will be as amazed as I was, with cost and specification.

2 weeks before the product came out. And it ended up being pretty expensive. But hey, things change right? ;)
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Kalessian
Leave Rollo alone.

apoppin, why are you posting here? Really, what are you trying to accomplish? You recognize that nV has the initiative with SLi, you're proud of Xfire, and you think Rollo is an instigator. We get it.
why are you posting here? [i see only one 6600GT in your rig]
Rollo is a big boy and can take care of himself . . . he has absolutely no problem with posting disinformation in my threads . . . OTOH, i DO have a legimate interest in this thread . . . read on
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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: apoppin

I remain VERY interested in this topic as i do - eventually - expect to do this upgrade. in the meantime. 'pardon me' if i remain a single GPU owner with an interest in multi gpu solutions. . . . i am constantly looking for best band-for-buck and do not feel unqualified to help people here in Video.

That's one of the most interesting things that have come out of multi-gpu configs so far-- the price-performance equation has often been thrown on its ear.

Obviously right now isn't the best time to buy a high-end gpu solution with new cards around the corner, but if we rewind a month or two, we see $500 single-card solutions being offered by nV and ATI. Then, you have the <$600 7800GT SLI solution that performs better than all the high-end cards, and is either just a little bit more expensive (compared to the x1800xt at that time, as well as the 256GTX) or cheaper (512GTX).

Price is the obvious obstacle for multi-gpu (just as it is with any high-end single card solution). There are other obvious ones too that get mentioned a lot-- extra heat, noise, and power usage, as well as the need for the proper mobo. There are some other obstacles that I don't think enough buyers consider-- what monitor they use (i.e. being res-limited on an LCD) and what games they play.

With games these days, you're gonna get a whole lot more performance from spending your money on an A64 3000+ with cheapie ram and SLI 7800GT (~$800), than you will from an A64 4000+ with super-fast ram and a single 7800GT (~$800). (Granted a faster processor will help in many other apps, but I'm speaking mainly about gaming here.)

SLI/Xfire is currently for those who want the absolute best performance damn the expense.

i think that may change as both nVidia and ATi's multi-gpu solutions mature . . . i believe there may soon be SLI/Xfire rigs that rival single GPUs in bang-for-buck performance . . . this is such a new and evolving technology and i guess we should be grateful to the early adopters who are bearing the brunt of the expense.

if you really want absolute best bang-for-buck, next gen consoles win hands down . . . but that is another subject.


 

nRollo

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Not bad, 30 SLI folks so far, in less than one day.

Not a majority, and I didn't expect it would be given the cost, but some of us are definitely considering multigpu a factor in single card purchases.

I'll still add valid Crossfire owners to the OP should any step forward, but so far it looks like Crossfire is more talked about than purchased. My theory on that is that it's too lat to the party this year- the people who wanted multi card had it by the time Crossfire was released.
(Not to mention awesome bang for buck of dual 7800GTs)
 

M0RPH

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I'd like to take a poll on something. Who thinks this is the MOST IDIOTIC poll ever? Your options are:

[ ] Yes


That's right, in the spirit of the poll in this thread, this is the only option. Thank you for voting.


BTW SLI is just an ingenious marketing ploy by Nvidia to suck even more cash out of your pockets. It's not bad enough that we are paying more than ever for video cards. Gee, that $300-500 video card not enough to play the latest games on that big monitor? Well, let us sell you another $300-500 video card. And a new motherboard so you can plug them both into it and get maybe a 50% gain if you're lucky when you've paid more than 200% the cost of your initial card. Just another great idea from Nvidia. Bend over and tell them you want some more, please.
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: Rollo
I'm curious to see how many ATers are using multi GPU solutions these days.

Please:

1. I don't want to discuss the merits of either in this thread.

2. I would like only Crossfire or SLI owners to respond, and post in the thread which you're using. I'll personally only consider responses with posts valid as anyone can vote in a thread, but if we see you have a Voodoo2 in your rig, we'll be skeptical.

3. I don't care if you post "I have Crossfire and no issues for me so far" or the same for SLI. I just don't want to see "I feel SLI is bad due to no Windows 3.1 support" and the like.

Update: Sorry Crossfire owners. Wannabe's had to spoil your right to be counted, but if you post your rig that would be great.
Rollo, this sounds a little bit like "I'll take my ball and go home". First, no poll like this is going to be accurate anyway. Yes, we have fanboys, but they live on both sides of the track and will do ANYTHING for their religion, err video maker. But hey, it did accomplish one thing, it is a wonderful sticky trap for a certain frequently banned troll. ;)

No SLI or Crossfire here or planned as not sure it is a wise investment in the realm of animation authoring or video editing (CGTalks latest tests show that Quadro is still at the top in Maya). Sorry for being OT.

 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: deadseasquirrel
Obviously right now isn't the best time to buy a high-end gpu solution with new cards around the corner, but if we rewind a month or two, we see $500 single-card solutions being offered by nV and ATI. Then, you have the <$600 7800GT SLI solution that performs better than all the high-end cards, and is either just a little bit more expensive (compared to the x1800xt at that time, as well as the 256GTX) or cheaper (512GTX).

Employing this logic would mean never buying anything. Ultimately, if you're going to forward the idea of being able to simply play games, at the resolutions and eye-candy levels that are important to you, you're going to have to plant your feet and pull out your wallet. There's nothing "obvious" about constantly second-guessing every aspect of the industry.

I agree about planting the feet and whipping out the wallet. I did 12 months ago when I got 6800GT SLI. But, that doesn't change the fact that there are new cards being launched in like 10 days, with rumors of immediate availability. These cards may outperform (or at least equal) many mid-range SLI configs.

There's certainly a difference between always waiting to see what comes in 4-6 months and waiting 10 days to see. So I stand by anyone's decision to wait and see right now.

Don't get me wrong, if pouring over release announcements and trying to guage a buying decision on what you can gleen is appropriate for the individual, then go ahead. But there are at least a few more dynamics at play, like the "early adopters penalty" for one. Waiting "10 days" (all the while praying that things shake out) is peaches, but pretending that it's THE logical choice for the most cerebral among us, isn't.

 

linkgoron

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Not bad, 30 SLI folks so far, in less than one day.

Not a majority, and I didn't expect it would be given the cost, but some of us are definitely considering multigpu a factor in single card purchases.

I'll still add valid Crossfire owners to the OP should any step forward, but so far it looks like Crossfire is more talked about than purchased. My theory on that is that it's too lat to the party this year- the people who wanted multi card had it by the time Crossfire was released.
(Not to mention awesome bang for buck of dual 7800GTs)

No ****** sherlock.
 

deadseasquirrel

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Waiting "10 days" (all the while praying that things shake out) is peaches, but pretending that it's THE logical choice for the most cerebral among us, isn't.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one... especially given the fact that when we're talking about purchasing $500 video cards, any talk of "logic" is pretty much out the window anyway. After all, I suppose it is up to each individual to make that purchase for themselves. And there will always be factors that will be unique to that person at that exact time-- i.e. they may not be able to wait even 10 days if they're about to pack up and leave for college in 3. But, anyone spending a lot of money for a high-end card right now should be aware that the market could change drastically in less than 2 weeks and their $450 could have been better spent.

Granted, this is the way of life with all new technology. And nV's and ATI's staggered schedule (instead of releasing their new cards at the same time) makes it seem that new cards are always "right around the corner". Even so, as an average, we're looking at around a 6-month cycle time for new cards. I don't imagine too many of us would advise waiting 6 months. But I don't think 10 days is too much to ask for.
 

SniperWulf

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Originally posted by: CP5670
Originally posted by: SniperWulf
I have 7800GT SLI. My only beef is that I have to use Beta drivers for v-sync with SLI enabled. <beats hand on desk> get busy nvidia and fix this!

What drivers are you using? And does it work with AFR mode in D3D games without a huge performance hit? I'm currently on 81.98 and it doesn't work.

it works with the 82.65's and 83.10's. I was using the 83.10s and just recently switched to the 82.65's since they are WHQL. you can get either at guru3d
 

jnjboc

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I have an EVGA 7800GTX 256 KO SLI setup .

I am getting a 1354 3dmark05 with no over-clocking at all......

I'm on their step-up program list to get dual 512mb cards, but I'm currently #251 on the list !!!!
 

cronic

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where are all of the xfire owners at? do they exist? come on guys you preached to us about the beloved fudo for over a year. none of you guys actually bought it? let me guess you are waiting on the r580, and then you will be waiting on r600. Come on, this tread proves the point that none of the ati fanboys are putting there money where there mouth is. I guess there all still runnin 9800 pros and xt, which was the last ati cards i owned as well. lol


SLI Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure you ati fans will hate this post, but until you post screenshots of YOUR Xfire or YOUR 1800's what is your point? You don't even support the product you so Religiously defend.
 

CP5670

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Originally posted by: SniperWulf
Originally posted by: CP5670
Originally posted by: SniperWulf
I have 7800GT SLI. My only beef is that I have to use Beta drivers for v-sync with SLI enabled. <beats hand on desk> get busy nvidia and fix this!

What drivers are you using? And does it work with AFR mode in D3D games without a huge performance hit? I'm currently on 81.98 and it doesn't work.

it works with the 82.65's and 83.10's. I was using the 83.10s and just recently switched to the 82.65's since they are WHQL. you can get either at guru3d

Awesome, I will try those out immediately. Thanks. The broken vsync is my main beef with SLI and I was going to switch to a single card soon because of that, but if it's been fixed then SLI would be much more appealing for me.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: cronic
where are all of the xfire owners at? do they exist? come on guys you preached to us about the beloved fudo for over a year. none of you guys actually bought it? let me guess you are waiting on the r580, and then you will be waiting on r600. Come on, this tread proves the point that none of the ati fanboys are putting there money where there mouth is. I guess there all still runnin 9800 pros and xt, which was the last ati cards i owned. lol
SLI Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude there are no Crossfire owners.

A lot of people like to talk about how great Crossfire is, but I've only seen one owner in my web surfing.

The R520 is a good card, but nobody is going to spend good money on the current state of Crossfire. (which is bad in a way, it would be nice to hear some opinions of it from users)
 

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I'm still on the 6600GT SLI. No problems so far, except I got a message about three months ago that the SLI bridge was not connected when it actually was. Performance never changed, and I've never had the message since, so I attribute it to Chaos.
Definitely going to upgrade to the G80 when it's released, if Socket AM2 is out.