POLL: Desktop SSDs, Pls Vote

[Virgorising]

Obviously you don't.

The boorish, ignorant premise that MOST who choose not to go SSD are "cheapskates,' for me, THE COUP DE GRAS.

All the windows.... crazy glued/epoxied shut and the glass replaced by concrete.

NECROTIC.

 

[Virgorising]

I don't have an 8 core CPU either as I said, I don't buy the latest and greatest. I'm always a couple years behind it seems. Cheapskate, stingy, frugal, call it whatever you want...Can't change it.

No, call it what it is: you are not some pitiable slave to commerce or cache or newer is better, if I don have newer, I must be Less Than.... driven momentum. The latter = VERITABLE SLAVERY.

Nothing that needs changing in your choices! And all stuff to celebrate, not to apologize for, defend....or even explain. Forget, assaulted for by replicant bullies on auto pilot who DEFINE Less Than.

 

[biostud]

500GB SSD + 3TB Harddrive

 

[Virgorising]

Final offering for exdeath;

This is a hardly cutting edge, bought used (but carefully chosen in every way) Optiplex 970. Not Sandy, not Ivy, forget Haswell: i7 870. 8 GBs of DDR 3; running W7 64-bit.

Two mechanical drives. Including this WD Black.

And, if I am even more meticulous, boot time is even faster. No delays opening apps, running anything.

Finis.

 

[Virgorising]

500GB SSD + 3TB Harddrive

If you could get two 2TB SSDs affordably, would you go all solid state?

 

[biostud]

If you could get two 2TB SSDs affordably, would you go all solid state?

Sure. There would be no reason not to go all SSD if the pricing is close to standard harddrives, but since it's not the case I'll stick with this setup.

 

[pcgeek11]

Other.

I don't even own an SSD.

 

[Xaquarie]

I would go all SSD if I could afford it. Samsung 840 EVO / Seagate 1TB currently.

 

[Burpo]

Good read for the OP..
MLC, eMLC, SLC, TLC – what they are & what they're good for.
http://www.computerweekly.com/podca...LC-TLC-what-they-are-and-what-theyre-good-for

 

[PliotronX]

Not only do I get that, it is one reason I have, until now, stuck with my spinners. But I also keep thinking, well, how bout those who have only lappys? And upgrade to an SSD as their only drive?

The must exist, right?

For me, having to worry about a drive's inherent limitations.....is stressful. I never had to with my spinners.

True that, pure SSD carries with it power savings as well for lappies. I just... when I have more bays and room to play and configure I cannot let it be Also one of the great benefits for desktops is SSD's don't care about being on-axis like spinners do so I like to velcro them to key areas in a case. No need for wasting a bay actually ()

 

[nutingut]

Well, I use one 120gb SSD as my OS drive, another 120gb SSD for virtual machines and a single 2tb WD Black HDD for data storage. I hate that HDD though, for it's very noisy. As soon as there are 2tb SSDs for the price of todays 1tb drives available, I will switch to SSD only and enjoy the silence.

 

[exdeath]

Final offering for exdeath;

This is a hardly cutting edge, bought used (but carefully chosen in every way) Optiplex 970. Not Sandy, not Ivy, forget Haswell: i7 870. 8 GBs of DDR 3; running W7 64-bit.

Two mechanical drives. Including this WD Black.

And, if I am even more meticulous, boot time is even faster. No delays opening apps, running anything.

Finis.

You think 32 seconds is fast, that's cute.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yes. Yes they are.

CPU:RAM speeds are over 50 GB/sec Even internet speeds are hitting 100+ MB/sec in some places.

Just because some people buy Ferraris, doesn't mean that everyone automatically should. Especial if they only drive to the corner store to get milk. Ferraris haven't made Honda Civics obsolete, nor will SSDs make HDDs obsolete.

Besides, after SSDs wear, they get slower. The 30GB on in my HTPC does about 30MB/sec sequential now.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Even my crappy CPU bottlenecked web browsing laptop has a Chronos Deluxe 240GB that almost saturates the SATA 2 link even with randoms. It's a life altering experience when the speed that you can zip 16 GB of data is limited by your CPU running 100% instead of disk access time.

You mean, like my E1-2500 AIO PC I recently picked up? It has a 5400RPM HDD, and I'm not even going to bother putting in an SSD. Why? Because Malwarebytes 2.x scans take 99% CPU, and only 10% disk. And that's the most stressful thing I run on that box.

 

[Virgorising]

Sure. There would be no reason not to go all SSD if the pricing is close to standard harddrives, but since it's not the case I'll stick with this setup.

Many thanks. Working back to option #3 in the poll, for me, the most important one, I now have a real sense of just how many impressively tech savvy people really do trust SS technology....and that, for me, is EVERYTHING.:thumbsup:

 

[Virgorising]

You mean, like my E1-2500 AIO PC I recently picked up? It has a 5400RPM HDD, and I'm not even going to bother putting in an SSD. Why? Because Malwarebytes 2.x scans take 99% CPU, and only 10% disk. And that's the most stressful thing I run on that box.

:thumbsup:

I guess that's the bargain thingy you got at Staples. I guess somewhere, in some Staples, there would have to have been one.

I am making a conscious effort not to focus on the chosen username "exdeath."

 

[Virgorising]

Besides, after SSDs wear, they get slower. The 30GB on in my HTPC does about 30MB/sec sequential now.

See that's one big reason I dragged my feet, why, at first I was looking for a bargain twin to my bargain WD black or something close....and that really creeps me out.
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Edit:

Was just doing some delving re performance erosion over time, and they say, as long as 25% of an SDD is free it is not a significant factor. As of now, my backup Seagate, 250GBs like the SDD on the way, is close to 60% free......and, in my case, it's unlikely any drive of that size will ever get much beyond 50%.

 

[Virgorising]

You think 32 seconds is fast, that's cute.

What I think, EXDEATH.....is, anyone in this life hostage to some desperate need for FASTER, has some serious, unaddressed issues re being fully present and open this moment, and so, the privilege of being able to experience and celebrate all that is there this moment.

You feel palpably estranged from the perfect engineering of The Universe and its thrilling, humbling, organic timetable. You also come across as painfully unhappy and combative.

You might try gardening.

 

[Virgorising]

Good read for the OP..
MLC, eMLC, SLC, TLC – what they are & what they're good for.
http://www.computerweekly.com/podca...LC-TLC-what-they-are-and-what-theyre-good-for

Thank U. Most technically dense piece I've seen!

 

[Virgorising]

Hummmmmmmmmmmm:|

http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/43400.aspx

I wonder if TRIM has improved in some way since 2011?

 

[Virgorising]

More hummmmmmmmmmmmm:\

http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-gui...ptimization-guide-ultimate-windows-8-edition/

 

[Essence_of_War]

That article wasn't about TRIM, and moreover, I don't think there is ANY reason to defrag a modern SSD.

TRIM works VERY well, and when implemented correctly, prevents the kind of longterm performance slowdown that the article describes. Moreover, performance consistency after being totally filled is a standard SSD review metric, so no longterm surprises.

Edit:

Moreover, those tweaks are a mixed bag. Unless you enjoy abusing the living daylights out of your SSDs by benchmarking them multiple times a day, disabling the pagefile doesn't make a lot of sense. In normal usage (read: literally anything except for repeated benchmarking or running a database server) you will not generate the kinds of writes from pagefile use that will lower your SSDs lifetime measurably. Many of the other tweaks windows does automatically (disabling VSS and superfetch, for example).

I would certainly make sure I was in AHCI vs. IDE mode, and it wouldn't hurt to verify TRIM was working properly.

 

[Virgorising]

That article wasn't about TRIM, and moreover, I don't think there is ANY reason to defrag a modern SSD.

TRIM works VERY well, and when implemented correctly, prevents the kind of longterm performance slowdown that the article describes. Moreover, performance consistency after being totally filled is a standard SSD review metric, so no longterm surprises.

No, I know it wasn't about TRIM....the TRIM mention was an afterthought.

I think I need to know how to implement TRIM correctly.

Just had little chat with a Crucial guy named Kevin....cause I din see a link to the latest firmware.....but he gave me one in the chat. I am trying to be prepared.

SDD left Kentucky pit stop around 3. What it was doing there I do not know. Nor, do I care.

Sometimes, like now, anyone wants arcane stuff to worry about.....here I am, I'm yr girl. Not always like this at all. BUT FOR ME, this remains unfamiliar territory.

Trust me, that drive will never be even close to filled.

Moreover, those tweaks are a mixed bag. Unless you enjoy abusing the living daylights out of your SSDs by benchmarking them multiple times a day, disabling the pagefile doesn't make a lot of sense. In normal usage (read: literally anything except for repeated benchmarking or running a database server) you will not generate the kinds of writes from pagefile use that will lower your SSDs lifetime measurably.

Above, PRECIOUS, INVALUABLE AND I THANK U. I am very conservative intuitively re running benchmarks....or anything else which clearly stresses hardware. I almost never do it.

I would certainly make sure I was in AHCI vs. IDE mode, and it wouldn't hurt to verify TRIM was working properly.

Right now, I have no clue wut controller is enabled. But, I will find out.

 

[Essence_of_War]

You don't need to implement TRIM correctly, the OS takes care of that.

Edit: Posted too quickly, the 2nd article you posted gives a method for verifying that TRIM is working, if that makes you feel better I'd certainly do that, but for ordinary use, TRIM is something the OS takes care of in the background.

 

[Virgorising]

You don't need to implement TRIM correctly, the OS takes care of that.

Edit: Posted too quickly, the 2nd article you posted gives a method for verifying that TRIM is working, if that makes you feel better I'd certainly do that, but for ordinary use, TRIM is something the OS takes care of in the background.

I know that on paper. But somewhere, I din believe it. I am used to garbage dumping myself.()
Re the second article: Exactly.

Re feel better; as always, owning more accurate data always does, yes? In every endeavor and every arena. I assumed that was a given.

There are times for ad hoc adventure (I do that a lot), and times when the right thing is to chase data.

Famous aphorism in medicine re surgical students: 'Watch one, do one, teach one." It's sardonic. Big reason, when choosing a surgeon, you want someone really experienced who has done a bazillion procedures. for starters.

I knew years ago, nobody should ever defrag an SSD. That's just a basic.