Poll: DeLay Losing Support in Own District

[Don Vito Corleone]

From Yahoo!/AP:

HOUSTON - Barely one of every five of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's constituents would vote for him if the election were held now, according to a newspaper poll released Saturday.

The Republican congressman, who lost his leadership post because of felony money laundering charges against him, trailed Democratic rival and former congressman Nick Lampson in his southeastern Texas district, according to the poll of 560 registered voters conducted for the Houston Chronicle.

In polling conducted Tuesday through Thursday, 22 percent of respondents said they would vote for DeLay, 30 percent chose Lampson and 11 percent favored Republican-turned-independent former congressman Steve Stockman.

Lampson's campaign manager, Mike Malaise, said the poll suggests that "people in the district want a congressman who will make headlines for the right reasons." . . .

Veddy interesting. It would be ironic of Lampson, who lost his seat to DeLay's gerrymandering, took DeLay's seat in return. Polls at this point mean little, I guess, in that DeLay MIGHT have a chance if he's acquitted, but I find it encouraging regardless.

 

[Engineer]

Yep. I posted this earlier in zendari's "There's no leadership race" thread!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Yep. I posted this earlier in zendari's "There's no leadership race" thread!

Ah - I hadn't seen that. I'd say it's a different enough topic to warrant a second thread, but obviously the mods can lock 'er up if they disagree. It seems like Zendari's DeLay threads are mostly full of people gloating, which he richly deserves IMO, but which tends to undermine discussion.

 

[DaveSimmons]

> at this point mean little, I guess, in that DeLay MIGHT have a chance if he's acquitted

That's my thought. If he manages an acquittal then his party will be trumpeting his "innocence" from the rooftops. Many voters can't tell the difference between "innocent" and "not quite enough admissable evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt."

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
> at this point mean little, I guess, in that DeLay MIGHT have a chance if he's acquitted

That's my thought. If he manages an acquittal then his party will be trumpeting his "innocence" from the rooftops. Many voters can't tell the difference between "innocent" and "not quite enough admissable evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt."

Which is ironic, because many voters also can't tell the difference between "guilty" and "accused of something by untrustworthy people".

I'm not talking about DeLay here, but in general people are way too stupid for subtle points like that.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Which is ironic, because many voters also can't tell the difference between "guilty" and "accused of something by untrustworthy people".

True, though DeLay is guilty of this one.

If not for the pesky fifth amendment I'd bet you could use a polygraph and truth drugs to convict 90+ percent of both the house and senate for accepting indirect bribes and/or for fundraising violations.

The Dems are going after Abramoff's bribery network, but some of them are accepting similar bribes now (Nancy Pelosi) and most of the rest have done so in the past.

It's too bad there's zero chance of a real housecleaning (and senatecleaning) any time soon.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: DonVito
From Yahoo!/AP:

In polling conducted Tuesday through Thursday, 22 percent of respondents said they would vote for DeLay, 30 percent chose Lampson and 11 percent favored Republican-turned-independent former congressman Steve Stockman.

Veddy interesting. It would be ironic of Lampson, who lost his seat to DeLay's gerrymandering, took DeLay's seat in return. Polls at this point mean little, I guess, in that DeLay MIGHT have a chance if he's acquitted, but I find it encouraging regardless.

22 to 30? Those numbers are well within the correctable margin programmed into the voting machines....

 

[CaptnKirk]

Tha fact that anyone in DeLays home district, in light of the facts and the depth of DeLays actions
would even consider voting for him again shows how close minded his supporters are.

Texans - the least knowedgable voters in the world.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Tha fact that anyone in DeLays home district, in light of the facts and the depth of DeLays actions
would even consider voting for him again shows how close minded his supporters are.

Texans - the least knowedgable voters in the world.

I actually wouldn't agree with that. Although I think DeLay is a sleazebag and a criminal, he is undeniably one of the most powerful men in Congress (albeit much less powerful than he was six months ago). Thus, he wields a great deal of leverage to help his district, even after he's done doling out favors to the people who made legal and illegal campaign contributions to him, Jack Abramoff, and TRIMPAC.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Tha fact that anyone in DeLays home district, in light of the facts and the depth of DeLays actions
would even consider voting for him again shows how close minded his supporters are.

Texans - the least knowedgable voters in the world.

Some people are just hardcore believers. There's some kind of conspiracy to take him down cause he's so effective, powerful, Righteous, or something. A better word would be gullible I suppose, either way there's always some.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Washington Post's "The Fix" adds this information about the Pro Delay Mindset

Poll: Tom DeLay's Reelection Woes
In the wake of Rep. Tom DeLay's (R-Texas) permanent resignation as House majority leader, a new poll shows that the Texan faces several major challenges in his campaign for a 12th term.

The negative coverage of lobbying Jack Abramoff -- and his ties to DeLay and his aides -- have clearly had a negative effect on the Texan's image in the eyes of voters, according to the survey, which was commissioned by the Houston Chronicle. Just 28 percent of those tested had either a "very" or "somewhat" favorable opinion of DeLay, while 60 percent had a "very" or "somewhat" unfavorable opinion.

Former Rep. Nick Lampson (D) led DeLay 30 percent to 22 percent in a hypothetical general election matchup. Former Republican Rep. Steve Stockman, who is running as an independent, received 11 percent. When voters leaning toward one of the candidates are pushed to make a decision, Lampson received 32 percent, DeLay 25 percent and Stockman 14 percent.

Perhaps most damning for DeLay is the finding that 47 percent said he should "withdraw as a candidate" for the 22nd district; 40 percent of respondents rejected that notion. That response is all the more troublesome when one considers the poll's sample, which included 42 percent self-identifying Republicans compared to 27 percent Democrats and 23 percent independents.


That's still nearly 30% staying with their support of Delay, corruption and all.
Where's their sense of Morals, Integrity, and Honesty ? It's OK for him to be a crook ?

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

That's still nearly 30% staying with their support of Delay, corruption and all.
Where's their sense of Morals, Integrity, and Honesty ? It's OK for him to be a crook ?

"They're sticking around 'cuz this is obviously a baseless liberal witch hunt against a great individual...yet another sad response from the pathetic sore losers in the 2004 election"

 

[DaveSimmons]

There were plenty of people who believed Clinton "did not have sex with that woman"

People are slow to accept that "their guy" is in the wrong, regardless of evidence.

 

[nageov3t]

I think that Delay is pretty much done in congress.

but it's Texas. I'm sure that whoever repalces him will be just as ethically bankrupt, though probably better at hiding it.

 

[Kerouactivist]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
There were plenty of people who believed Clinton "did not have sex with that woman"

People are slow to accept that "their guy" is in the wrong, regardless of evidence.

With Clinton it was more about....Who cares if had had sex with that woman.....
That has nothing to do with government.....

Taking bribes....now that is something people should care about.....

The results of the people that still support him aren't suprising though.....
considering the base......

 

[Rockshox95]

I doubt he'll get voted out of his Sugarland seat, but at least he got knocked off his high horse for all his underhanded arrogant legislative tactics. I voted for his liberal opponent, but his gerrymandering pretty much secured him from being voted out. There's just too many brainwashed rednecks or corrupted individuals in this district like those Enron execs.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bthorny

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
There were plenty of people who believed Clinton "did not have sex with that woman"

People are slow to accept that "their guy" is in the wrong, regardless of evidence.

With Clinton it was more about....Who cares if had had sex with that woman.....
That has nothing to do with government.....

Taking bribes....now that is something people should care about.....

The results of the people that still support him aren't suprising though.....
considering the base......

:thumbsup: