Poll: Clinton leads Trump by double digits

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Not sure who is more pitiful, BS or people who ask for explanations from him.

yea, putting that idiot on ignore makes perusing this forum a whole lot nicer. His cyclical and moronic debate tactics get old, fast.

 

[jackstar7]

Not sure who is more pitiful, BS or people who ask for explanations from him.

Sorry for trying to engage someone in good faith.

Full disclosure, he was on my ignore list for about 6 mos. I recently added someone else, so I figured I'd take him off ignore and see how he was doing.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Sorry for trying to engage someone in good faith.

Full disclosure, he was on my ignore list for about 6 mos. I recently added someone else, so I figured I'd take him off ignore and see how he was doing.

same old buckshat he's always done, one trick pony, at best. No sense in wasting your time, effort is not even close to worth it.

 

[jackstar7]

What can I say? I'm a semi-annual optimist.

 

[chowderhead]

Him being black brought a higher percentage of them to the polls which was one key for him. I doubt Hillary is going to have black people as excited to vote for her and a higher percentage will probably not come out to vote like they did for Obama.

I think Clinton will score a higher percentage of older, married white women than what Democrats typically get. It will be just as historic to elect the first woman President as the first black President. I think there is a sizable population of especially older women who may want to see a women become President in their lifetime. Women make up the majority of voters. Single and young women and women of color vote strongly for the Democrats. If Clinton makes inroads into older, white women, she will win the battleground suburban areas.

 

[agent00f]

I think Clinton will score a higher percentage of older, married white women than what Democrats typically get. It will be just as historic to elect the first woman President as the first black President. I think there is a sizable population of especially older women who may want to see a women become President in their lifetime. Women make up the majority of voters. Single and young women and women of color vote strongly for the Democrats. If Clinton makes inroads into older, white women, she will win the battleground suburban areas.

Clinton currently has a lock on college educated females, and it's not as if minorities are voting for trump & co.

Trump has a lock on below college educated males.

Unless people start ungraduating (sudden lose of higher cultural outlook from head trauma, etc) this election is pretty much set.

 

[Exophase]

Him being black brought a higher percentage of them to the polls which was one key for him. I doubt Hillary is going to have black people as excited to vote for her and a higher percentage will probably not come out to vote like they did for Obama.

I doubt losing a few percentage in black turnout would have done anything more than at most turned Florida, North Carolina, and Indiana and that'd still have led to a won - and this is more or less worst case scenario, it could have possibly caused him to win other very close states like Missouri for all we know. Obama led a very effective campaign though, I don't think Hillary would have had as commanding a lead, but I still think the 2008 version would have beat McCain. 2016 version on the other hand...

 

[buckshot24]

Buckshot, GM isn't all knowing and all powerful, (except maybe the current Z06), so they can't make a car that doesn't eventually fail.

Doesn't matter to the analogy.

Well I won't really be blaming him because we're talking about a biological process which is well understood, no real place for him.

So you're abandoning your argument? Good.

But an omnipotent, omniscient God knows all the outcomes and had the power to make all the choices so whatever happens, happens because it was allowed.

And you think "allowed" means "caused"? If God didn't allow bad things to happen then you'd (me too) already be dead.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

fox news is on, and constantly, in our breakroom and some drumpf official was explaining how little the polls in June actually mean, but the stuttering and stammering to get that point across belied her confidence in her words.
while the polls may mean little, the public's opinion and trust of drumpf means a lot, and those points are only heading downward.

 

[buckshot24]

From your perspective, what is the root cause of a fetal miscarriage?

Actions of a human being, or actions of a divine being, or other? Please explain.

As we get further and further away from creation the accumulation of genetic mutations becomes greater and greater and we physically become less and less what God originally designed. At the beginning I'm suggesting that miscarriages didn't happen at all and they became more and more common through the generations.

Imagine copying a vhs tape then making a copy of the copy then of the copy, eventually you're not going to be able to see the original movie.

This is speculation so please take it as such.

 

[woolfe9998]

Looks like Clinton's average lead in the polls is higher than the margin that Obama had over Romney in June of 2012.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...eral_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls

Obama's average lead in June polling was about +3.1 while so far Clinton leads Trump by about +5.8. Considering Clinton's favorables are lower than Obama's were in 2012, that tells you how unpopular Trump is as a candidate.

 

[zinfamous]

this article was devestating -- The brutal numbers behind a very bad month for Donald Trump

And I was worried that our chances for an entertaining Repub convention were dashed when Trump won the delegate count.

It looks like we're back on!

 

[buckshot24]

Looks like Clinton's average lead in the polls is higher than the margin that Obama had over Romney in June of 2012.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...eral_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html#polls

Obama's average lead in June polling was about +3.1 while so far Clinton leads Trump by about +5.8. Considering Clinton's favorables are lower than Obama's were in 2012, that tells you how unpopular Trump is as a candidate.

Can't really compare two different races like that. Romney didn't say something stupid about a judge's ethnicity at this point in that election.

 

[zinfamous]

As we get further and further away from creation the accumulation of genetic mutations becomes greater and greater and we physically become less and less what God originally designed. At the beginning I'm suggesting that miscarriages didn't happen at all and they became more and more common through the generations.

wtf nonsense is this?

Do you believe in God or not? If you do, well you just put forward an argument that discredits the existence and purpose of an omniscient God figure.

congratulations buckshot: in an effort to spew more nonsense brain gibberish into a legitimate discussion, you have buckshat yourself by destroying your own core beliefs.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And I was worried that our chances for an entertaining Repub convention were dashed when Trump won the delegate count.

It looks like we're back on!

And keeps looking like it could be more and more fun by the day.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconventional-special-report-hundreds-gop-000000630.html

 

[Jhhnn]

Can't really compare two different races like that. Romney didn't say something stupid about a judge's ethnicity at this point in that election.

More than that. Romney wasn't a buffoon & his campaign wasn't built on the same headset that built bunkers in Albania, either.

 

[emperus]

I didn't misquote the verse, you're bearing false witness against me now. You assumed what you wanted to assume and nothing I could say can change your mind. You are being the exact opposite of charitable. You're more charitable with atheists (it appears) than you are with a brother in the Lord. I wonder why that is?

You're putting all this baggage on me that simply wasn't intended. We are responsible to follow the commands of God to help the poor. Your "help" doesn't really help people, remember the disintegration of the black family you keep ignoring? That is what your "help" produces.

Paul also makes it clear that we CAN'T follow the law so we won't ever be in a situation where there is no poor.
Now I see the baggage clearly. None of the things this blogger was saying applies to my usage of this phrase and you can't prove otherwise. Remember who the accuser of the brethren is? Quit accusing me of things I don't believe and haven't argued for.
I'm not wrong. You are wrong but there is forgiveness for sin if we ask for it. You need to ask for it and I already forgive you for lying about me.

I try to treat everyone the same. But I do have less patience for people who should know better, yet who misquote the Bible then use it as a wedge.

Btw, your use of the bible verses is very manipulative ("bearing false witness", "you're more charitable with atheists", "Remember who the accuser of the brethren is", "forgiveness for sin if we ask",...). I can't believe that's how you speak normally.

 

[buckshot24]

I try to treat everyone the same. But I do have less patience for people who should know better, yet who misquote the Bible then use it as a wedge.

I didn't misquote the verse.

Btw, your use of the bible verses is very manipulative ("bearing false witness", "you're more charitable with atheists", "Remember who the accuser of the brethren is", "forgiveness for sin if we ask",...). I can't believe that's how you speak normally.

You are bearing false witness, I'm sorry you're doing this and feel bad about it, that isn't my fault.

 

[emperus]

I didn't misquote the verse.
You are bearing false witness, I'm sorry you're doing this and feel bad about it, that isn't my fault.

Does this kinda stuff work on anybody? It sounds very childish IMHO.

 

[buckshot24]

Does this kinda stuff work on anybody? It sounds very childish IMHO.

Not sure why you won't just admit you overstepped yourself and assumed some things that I didn't intend by quoting the verse in question. Why are you doubling down? You keep saying I misquoted something when I didn't. Why?

 

[sontakke]

Did somebody change the name of this forum to "Bible Study" while I was not looking?

 

[emperus]

Did somebody change the name of this forum to "Bible Study" while I was not looking?

Apologies. I asked buckshot a question about Trump and he diverted to religion and in doing so misquoted something. I'll let it go.

 

[buckshot24]

Apologies. I asked buckshot a question about Trump and he diverted to religion and in doing so misquoted something. I'll let it go.

I didn't misquote it. I'll PM you if you're really interested in the truth.

I answered in the form of a question and I explained my reasoning quite thoroughly. Anything Trump has said in the last couple weeks doesn't make him a worse candidate than Hillary from my perspective.

 

[agent00f]

I try to treat everyone the same. But I do have less patience for people who should know better, yet who misquote the Bible then use it as a wedge.

Btw, your use of the bible verses is very manipulative ("bearing false witness", "you're more charitable with atheists", "Remember who the accuser of the brethren is", "forgiveness for sin if we ask",...). I can't believe that's how you speak normally.

Speaking of which, I happened to catch a Trump segment a while back where he references bible verses in "Corinthians 2" to the crowd. Now for those not up to speed on christianity, that's always referred to as "2nd Corinthians".

Let's ponder for a minute here what that implies. First, he clearly knows nothing about scripture. Second, he also doesn't have anyone educated proof his speech tidbits. And third, he doesn't believe that wouldn't become obvious speaking to actual christians, or maybe he thinks the chrisitian audience is so hella dumb they don't know the basics either.

It's an open question whether the last one applies to ol' buckshot here.

 

[buckshot24]

Speaking of which, I happened to catch a Trump segment a while back where he references bible verses in "Corinthians 2" to the crowd. Now for those not up to speed on christianity, that's always referred to as "2nd Corinthians".

Let's ponder for a minute here what that implies. First, he clearly knows nothing about scripture. Second, he also doesn't have anyone educated proof his speech tidbits. And third, he doesn't believe that wouldn't become obvious speaking to actual christians, or maybe he thinks the chrisitian audience is so hella dumb they don't know the basics either.

It's an open question whether the last one applies to ol' buckshot here.

I didn't misquote that verse. And he said 2 Corinthians I believe. I don't think Trump is a saved person. I think he took that verse a bit out of context if I recall correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EIgHsGZAmk

Yeah, he did.