Poll: Catalyst or Omega?

[Quixfire]

Originally posted by: Mem
I like to stick with official ATi drivers.

I'm with you.

 

[BoomAM]

Catalyst 4.1
Dont use unofficial drivers myself. Apart from the DNAs a while back, but that was just to get DX2 working smoothly.

 

[Auric]

Modified driver packages are for n00bs that don't understand that the chip designer spends gajillions writing and testing drivers and some dood changing the default install settings by editing an INF is not doing anything significant and certainly nothing you cannot do yourself with a tweaker. Just more bloat and potential for problems if you axe me, especially if different file versions are mix and matched.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: Auric
Modified driver packages are for n00bs that don't understand that the chip designer spends gajillions writing and testing drivers and some dood changing the default install settings by editing an INF is not doing anything significant and certainly nothing you cannot do yourself with a tweaker. Just more bloat and potential for problems if you axe me, especially if different file versions are mix and matched.

Maybe you should check things better before talking,because you might want to know that the guy who makes omega drivers is part of the ATI catalyst team. Actually Terry Makedon almost "confess" in an interview that Omega is the way to go,or if you want an equal alternative to officials,but for obvious reasons he can't. Omega's are great drivers with better image quality than the officials.
Official drivers are almost identical to Omegas in term of performance but in quality Omegas are better.

Here is a quote from Terry Makedon when he was interviewed by a German Magazine:

"ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI?s user community at it's best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI?s CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers."

And the link for the unfaithful

 

[Maddscientist]

If you want to get rid of tearing lines and mipmap lines, try these little settings called "vsync" and "anisotropic filtering".

If you would have "read" my post instead of reading into my post you would notice I stated 4xaf to test the diffrence between Omegas and Cats......I feel like a teacher now but pay attention eh.

And I always have vsynce enabled......Cats or omegas.

As for find a better game than cs....I cant find one. Played BF1942 Desert Combat, UT03, Quake3,MOHAA,Call Of Duty ext ext ext....CS is just pure fun on a good clean server. The shot detection on other games just ruins them for me at least on cs when you shoot a guy you hit him 98.9% of the time in other games like BF1942 I can sometimes empty a clip into a guy from 3 feet and not hit him once.....Boring in my book.

 

[BoomAM]

Originally posted by: jim1976
Maybe you should check things better before talking,because you might want to know that the guy who makes omega drivers is part of the ATI catalyst team.

Actually, you should take that comment yourself. The bloke who makes Omegas, isnt part of the Catalyst team, he`s part of the beta testing team. Which anyone can sign up for.

Actually Terry Makedon almost "confess" in an interview that Omega is the way to go,or if you want an equal alternative to officials,but for obvious reasons he can't. Omega's are great drivers with better image quality than the officials.
Official drivers are almost identical to Omegas in term of performance but in quality Omegas are better.

Hes saying that for good publicity. He isnt exactely going to say the the Omegas are crap. The IQ is about the same. The Omega maker simply tweaks a few things to improve performance, which as Auric said, can be done by anyone with the right software.

"ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI?s user community at it's best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI?s CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers."

See my previous too answers for the above.
Notice that the bit that i highlighted supports one of my above answers.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: BoomAM

Originally posted by: jim1976
Maybe you should check things better before talking,because you might want to know that the guy who makes omega drivers is part of the ATI catalyst team.

Actually, you should take that comment yourself. The bloke who makes Omegas, isnt part of the Catalyst team, he`s part of the beta testing team. Which anyone can sign up for.

Actually Terry Makedon almost "confess" in an interview that Omega is the way to go,or if you want an equal alternative to officials,but for obvious reasons he can't. Omega's are great drivers with better image quality than the officials.
Official drivers are almost identical to Omegas in term of performance but in quality Omegas are better.

Hes saying that for good publicity. He isnt exactely going to say the the Omegas are crap. The IQ is about the same. The Omega maker simply tweaks a few things to improve performance, which as Auric said, can be done by anyone with the right software.

"ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI?s user community at it's best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI?s CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers."

See my previous too answers for the above.
Notice that the bit that i highlighted supports one of my above answers.

I feel like a fanatic of Omegas but anyway I can answer some of your comments.
NOT ANYONE can be a member of beta catalyst team, and even if he can that requires some skill I suppose.
If he cared for publicity then he should have a good word for DNA as well etc etc,so this is wrong.
Terry says that he's in direct contact with the ATI team and that their relationship is of THE HIGHEST STANDARD.
Now excuse me but if I have to choose between Terry and you I would definately choose Terry's opinion.
And if you look closer to his everyday little comments about various things,you would see a man that says things as they are and he's not hiding.
Now I don't argue that with the proper software you can do some modifications by yourself, but that doesn't make anyone that chooses a good and stable solution like Omega a nOOb.

As for image quality I can't agree with you Omegas are significantly better than officials.

 

[Slogun]

As for find a better game than cs....I cant find one. Played BF1942 Desert Combat, UT03, Quake3,MOHAA,Call Of Duty ext ext ext....CS is just pure fun on a good clean server. The shot detection on other games just ruins them for me at least on cs when you shoot a guy you hit him 98.9% of the time in other games like BF1942 I can sometimes empty a clip into a guy from 3 feet and not hit him once.....Boring in my book.

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[blazer78]

Ati Catalyst , its always good to trust ati and not 3rd parties =)

 

[Schadenfroh]

ForceWare

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
ForceWare

Ah, 640x480x4bpp @ 60Hz

 

[Pete]

Terry would be foolish not to support the Omega drivers after the bad enthusiast press nVidia got for sending him a cease and desisit letter. I'm not saying that's the only reason he'd support them, as they may in fact be superior in IQ (if not performance) to regular ATi drivers if they force vsync and triple buffering on and trilinear filtering for all texture stages with Quality AF. But obviously the bigwigs at ATi and nVidia are not oblivious to the enthusiast market when granting interviews to websites.

 

[MDE]

I'll be using the Omegas for my soon to be mine laptop.

 

[Wigwam]

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
I'll be using the Omegas for my soon to be mine laptop.

in which case monkey [or should i say whisker!] are you upto giving a subjective view on differences in speed and IQ between Cat and Omega?

 

[BoomAM]

jim1976,
Its possible for anyone to sign up to the Catalyst Beta program. Just that very few ppl actually get selected.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: BoomAM
jim1976,
Its possible for anyone to sign up to the Catalyst Beta program. Just that very few ppl actually get selected.

That's what I mean my friend

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
I have used both, and to honestly say, there is no noticable difference. I would go with catalyst because I trust ATI more then some guy. ATI probably also tests more for glitches also.

Are you retarded? Omega drivers usually FIX the problems that the original Catalyst drivers cause.

 

[PoPPeR]

heh, just realized i didn't have an "other" option in the poll.

Looks like things are as inconclusive as ever :beer:

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Wigwam

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
I'll be using the Omegas for my soon to be mine laptop.

in which case monkey [or should i say whisker!] are you upto giving a subjective view on differences in speed and IQ between Cat and Omega?

Whisker? AFAIK, the Catalysts won't install on Mobility chips, so you'll have to excuse me from fanning the flames of this soon to be flame war.

 

[Wigwam]

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress

Originally posted by: Wigwam

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
I'll be using the Omegas for my soon to be mine laptop.

in which case monkey [or should i say whisker!] are you upto giving a subjective view on differences in speed and IQ between Cat and Omega?

Whisker? AFAIK, the Catalysts won't install on Mobility chips, so you'll have to excuse me from fanning the flames of this soon to be flame war.

sorry geezer, i thought i recalled you saying eons ago that whiskers was one of your nickname cos you were curious as a cat.
and i concur, i think it is soon to be time to wear asbestos pants while reading this thread!

 

[blodhi74]

catalyst

 

[Auric]

jim1976, I was going to respond directly but BoomAM covered it.

You still do not seem to appreciate that ATI is the sole author of drivers and no one else is privy to the source code and able to make changes to them.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: Auric
jim1976, I was going to respond directly but BoomAM covered it.

You still do not seem to appreciate that ATI is the sole author of drivers and no one else is privy to the source code and able to make changes to them.

I do understand that,and I am completely aware that any other driver except the official one,is just a modification of the source code.
I just so happen to like the Omegas for their remarkable stability and their exceptional image quality. Is that so bad?

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Originally posted by: Auric
jim1976, I was going to respond directly but BoomAM covered it.

You still do not seem to appreciate that ATI is the sole author of drivers and no one else is privy to the source code and able to make changes to them.

I do understand that,and I am completely aware that any other driver except the official one,is just a modification of the source code.
I just so happen to like the Omegas for their remarkable stability and their exceptional image quality. Is that so bad?

No, I think they are trying to say that the Omega drivers are not modifications of the source code.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Wigwam
sorry geezer, i thought i recalled you saying eons ago that whiskers was one of your nickname cos you were curious as a cat.
and i concur, i think it is soon to be time to wear asbestos pants while reading this thread!

I'm 18, and the Whiskers thing was from a Saturday Night Live skit, I didn't even remember that I said that . I'll be sitting on the sidelineswith some snacks watching the flamers if you need me .