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Poll: Can Taiwanese be considered as Chinese

The majority of Taiwanese are ethnically and culturally Chinese, and most have extended families in China, while many have close business ties with other people in China.

Hence in areas and categories other than politics, they are Chinese, and should be considered as such.
 
Originally posted by: Linflas
Chinese as in part of the PRC or Chinese as in ethnicity? No to the former and yes to the later.
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QFT. My parents are both from Taiwan, but ethnically, I consider myself Chinese. Taiwanese IMO refers to the native Formosans, who are an extreme minority at this point.
 
Taiwan(ROC) and China(PRC) dont get along at all. Public opinion is really divided in Taiwan. some like china and consider themselves Chinese and some vhelmently hate China and consider themselves Taiwanese.
 
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: Linflas
Chinese as in part of the PRC or Chinese as in ethnicity? No to the former and yes to the later.
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QFT. My parents are both from Taiwan, but ethnically, I consider myself Chinese. Taiwanese IMO refers to the native Formosans, who are an extreme minority at this point.
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yup
 
If we're referring to the actual native aboriginal Taiwanese, then they are neither culturally, nor ethnically Chinese. Their culture and language are closely related to native languages of the Philippines, and to lesser extend, to the native languages of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Polynesia.
 
Originally posted by: Kalbi
Originally posted by: Linflas
Chinese as in part of the PRC or Chinese as in ethnicity? No to the former and yes to the later.
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Yes to both. Taiwan is a rebel state.
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lol...oh noes. nobody should ever go against the status quo.
 
I think it depends how you use Chinese. IIRC, REAL Taiwanese are very dark and are the natives to the Island before the Chinese EVER arrived.

But something like 300 years ago there was an influx of ethnic CHINESE into Taiwan who lived there or something like that...and then another huge influx 50ish years ago...

So taiwanese in the strictest sense are not Chinese...but I really wonder how many exist in Taiwan. But Taiwanese in more of a nationality sense are DEFINITELY Chinese..


or I think 😛 Either way to me the biggest tip off is the fact that most people from taiwan have the weirdest accent...they don't pronounce the retroflexes properly...so when someone says "si" instead of "shi" you know where they are most likely from 😉
 
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Taiwan(ROC) and China(PRC) dont get along at all. Public opinion is really divided in Taiwan. some like china and consider themselves Chinese and some vhelmently hate China and consider themselves Taiwanese.
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I'd like to know why the Taiwanese hates China (aside from the current events). What drove them to want to segregate themselves so desperately ? And I hope it's not because they are just being rebellious. What was the root cause ?
 
Originally posted by: magomago

or I think 😛 Either way to me the biggest tip off is the fact that most people from taiwan have the weirdest accent...they don't pronounce the retroflexes properly...so when someone says "si" instead of "shi" you know where they are most likely from 😉
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Could it be because the Chinese Taiwanese's dialect (those whose ancestors hailed during the Ming Dynasty) are variants of Fujianese dialects, where they rarely use the "sh" sound?

 
i have friends who are taiwanese, but they consider themselves within the realm of chinese....so that is your final answer
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Taiwan(ROC) and China(PRC) dont get along at all. Public opinion is really divided in Taiwan. some like china and consider themselves Chinese and some vhelmently hate China and consider themselves Taiwanese.
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I'd like to know why the Taiwanese hates China (aside from the current events). What drove them to want to segregate themselves so desperately ? And I hope it's not because they are just being rebellious. What was the root cause ?
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i think it was the whole communists thing where they slaughtered the non-communists
 
Originally posted by: Kalbi
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Taiwan(ROC) and China(PRC) dont get along at all. Public opinion is really divided in Taiwan. some like china and consider themselves Chinese and some vhelmently hate China and consider themselves Taiwanese.
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I'd like to know why the Taiwanese hates China (aside from the current events). What drove them to want to segregate themselves so desperately ? And I hope it's not because they are just being rebellious. What was the root cause ?
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i think it was the whole communists thing where they slaughtered the non-communists
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details ?
 
Originally posted by: rh71
details ?
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On February 28, 1947, about two thousand people gathered in front of the Bureau of Monoply in Taipei to protest the brutal beating on a woman cigarette peddler and the killing of a bystander by the police on the previous evening. The Chinese Governor, Chen Yi responded with machine guns, killing several people on the spot. Uprisings errupted. What ensued were a series of massacres on the island by the troops sent from China by Chiang Kai-Shek resulting in the deaths of more than 30,000 Taiwanese people, followed by an era of white terror (arrests and mysterious disapprances of countless additional people) by the military police for decades....

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