Poll: Beating children, yes or no?

mozirry

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For purposes of this thread,

Beating is : any form of physical force used to discipline a child "corporal punishment"

Does not include: restraining a child from hurting themselves/others, things like that.

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At lunchtime at work, whenever it is just ladies and my sole male self, they seem to get hot on topic about whipping/beating their children. They get very excited and, elated, to discuss the issue.

A few days prior to listening to these conversations, I had a heated discussion with my wife about the same subject. She is totally fine and plans on beating our children, and I am very against it.

It was such a no-gain all-lose conversation that we will never have it again, but we both understood where we were coming from and that regardless of what would happen, it would be a difficult decision both of us would have to meet on.


#1 Beating children.

I find this to be a too-easy path to try and gain control over a child. While you can gain physical control, it lacks mental control which IMO is the most important part. Also, it can cause the child to mimic that same behavior elsewhere, or cause severe psychological issues that may turn into out of ordinary violent or submissive conditions.

#2 not beating children

There are so many ways to punish a child that is more meaningful, creative, and efficient. This may be difficult to do though if you A. Don't really know your child, B. lack the follow through (softy), C. Lack the creative/thinking process needed to ensure the punishment is sufficient.





Conclusions.

1. I've noticed beating children may be a cultural/societal issue, that in the end is accepted by both children and parents
2. Excuses are generally "I got beat, and I turned out ok"
3. People are either overly aggressive or overly soft. Both of which I believe are poor beating techniques
 

BoomerD

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Hell yes. Hang em up and beat em like a rug!

Remember, "Spare the rod and spoil the child!"



There's a big difference between some disciplinary spanking and beating your kids.

Beating is much more fun...:D
 

vshah

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i wasn't beat, and i turned out ok. i wasn't disciplined at all really. never did anything bad... wonder why that is?
 

Flipped Gazelle

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I bet that most ATOTer's are familiar with beating and spanking, but in front of their monitors and not of their children.
 

mozirry

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Originally posted by: vshah
i wasn't beat, and i turned out ok. i wasn't disciplined at all really. never did anything bad... wonder why that is?

I am in that boat as well, I think this is why my view of the world is skewed
 

Red Squirrel

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Beating: no
Spanking: yes, as a last resort, but any physical discipline should be avoided imo.

Not only can physical discipline be too overkill but so can verbal. There is no need to yell your head off at a child. If they're really bad it might end up being needed, but don't always go straight to that option. Then again, I'm not a parent so I have zero experience in child discipline. I've babysat my nephews but they're usually pretty good with me.
 

PieIsAwesome

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From my point of view, I don't really see the need for beatings or violence as a form of discipline.

My father would never yell at me or hit me or behave aggressively towards me or anything if I did something wrong, instead he would have a serious and frank talk with me, and I never wanted to do anything wrong out of respect for him. The only fear stemming from my father was that I may disappoint him.

My mother would not hit me, but she would scold me and yell angrily and/or aggressively, so I never wanted to do anything wrong out of fear of her.

My father's method was more effective.

But maybe this is just me. I never really did anything wrong and was a calm and quiet child. I've seen some kids who I would not mind beating.
 

mozirry

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Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Beating: no
Spanking: yes, as a last resort, but any physical discipline should be avoided imo.

Not only can physical discipline be too overkill but so can verbal. There is no need to yell your head off at a child. If they're really bad it might end up being needed, but don't always go straight to that option. Then again, I'm not a parent so I have zero experience in child discipline. I've babysat my nephews but they're usually pretty good with me.

yeah, verbal can be just as bad!
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I was never beat, but I was spanked.

this



That's like saying
"We didn't have sex, I just put the tip in"

wtf??? not its not...you've to be fucking retarded if you consider beating and spanking (in disciplinary procedures, not sexual procedures) the same.
 

mozirry

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I was never beat, but I was spanked.

this



That's like saying
"We didn't have sex, I just put the tip in"

wtf??? not its not...you've to be fucking retarded if you consider beating and spanking (in disciplinary procedures, not sexual procedures) the same.

Spanking falls under the tree of "Beating techniques"

sorry
 

MovingTarget

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I am pro-spanking. I was when I was a child, but rarely. If you do things right, you will never have to... The psycological part is key. The threat of spanking is much more effective. However, if you don't follow through on occasion, they will figure it out...
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I was never beat, but I was spanked.

this



That's like saying
"We didn't have sex, I just put the tip in"

wtf??? not its not...you've to be fucking retarded if you consider beating and spanking (in disciplinary procedures, not sexual procedures) the same.

Spanking falls under the tree of "Beating techniques"

sorry

Quoted for idiocy...
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: mozirry
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I was never beat, but I was spanked.

this



That's like saying
"We didn't have sex, I just put the tip in"

wtf??? not its not...you've to be fucking retarded if you consider beating and spanking (in disciplinary procedures, not sexual procedures) the same.

Spanking falls under the tree of "Beating techniques"

sorry

What tree does 'petting' come under?
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I was never beat, but I was spanked.

same here.

i have 2 kids, and we very rarely resort to spanking. we found quickly that it doesnt work that well most of the time. while im divorced, the ex and i *do* actually have similar styles of discipline, so it works out well enough and the kids are, for the most part, pretty well behaved.

i got an explanation when i was kid and some kind of punishment, spanking usually came after a warning and one or two minor punishments.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
There are seriously people in favour of beating children?

im in favor of beating all sorts of people, but in practice im a pacifist.

but really, id love to clock some people with a frying pan.