POLL: Based On what we've heard so far in the Kobe case...

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Gaard
dahunan - <<And he used a condom based on the accusers testimony.>>

Are you sure about this? Link?

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=accuser+sex+condom

Bryant attorney Pamela Mackey wasted no time getting Detective Doug Winters to say that the yellow underwear the woman wore to her rape exam at a nearby hospital the next day contained sperm from another man, along with Caucasian pubic hair.

The 25-year-old Bryant, who is black, contends he had consensual sex with the woman.

Winters said the woman told him she had consensual sex with another man on June 27 or June 28 and used a condom, backing earlier defense suggestions she was sexually active before her encounter with Bryant.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20031015_1484.html

 

[Gaard]

Oh, she used a condom with the other guy. I thought you meant Kobe used a condom. Ok.

 

[gwlam12]

Originally posted by: dtyn

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Where is the option for "Who gives a fvck?"

I agree.
She wins. Kobe does some time, she gets some money, this sinks into the background.
Kobe wins. She is proven to be a skank, this sinks into the background.
No lasting effects will emerge from this case; therefore, the case is not newsworthy.

kobe already lost millions of dollars in advertising.

kobe haters will call him rapist everytime they see him.

the girl will be hated by many, but she gets lots of money.

so who will have it worse after winning?

 

[dahunan]

...Bryant's lawyers this morning opened holes in the testimony of the detective who interviewed Bryant's 19-year-old accuser.

Attorney Pamela Mackey asked Eagle County Sheriff's Det. Doug Winters about his initial interview with the accuser. Winters said that the woman never told Bryant "no" during five minutes of sexual intercourse in an Edwards, Colo., hotel room June 30. When the woman resisted, Bryant stopped,
Winters said.

"When she moved his hand away, he stopped," Mackey said.

"Yes," replied Winters.

"There is no dispute he stopped," Mackey said.

"Correct," Winters said.

Mackey's measured tones contrasted with her confrontational style Thursday, when she brought an end to the first five hours of the hearing with a suggestion that the woman had had sex with two other men in the three days leading up to the encounter with Bryant.

The defense team apparently showed Judge Frederick Gannett in closed session that there was a "good faith basis" for the comment, because Mackey was allowed to pursue a similar line of questioning today....

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-101503kobe_lat,1,984392.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers
AnandTech for username and pass

 

[Nocturnal]

Imagine if all of this passes and then we find out she had AIDS and Kobe's infected!!! OHHHHHHH NOEASSAS!!

 

[gwlam12]

nm

 

[dahunan]

The best and most unbiased commentary on the whole case.

 

[Ornery]

"...that the case against the basketball star is weak with gusts up to pathetic."

Unbiased?

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...that the case against the basketball star is weak with gusts up to pathetic."

Unbiased?

So all because it says the prosecutions stuff is weak and pathetic, its automatically biased? Please do tell me how you think the prosecutions case is strong otherwise.

I don't see how any can believe Kobe is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt with what we have heard so far.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...that the case against the basketball star is weak with gusts up to pathetic."

Unbiased?

Well, do you have your own opinion based on what you read?

 

[edfcmc]

Originally posted by: prontospyder
I just read that the DA said that if the judge doesn't bind this over trial there are other avenues he could explore. What does that mean? He'll sue Kobe in civil court?

Well, if the judge doesnt bind it over for lack of probable cause, he could always convene a grand jury to indict him in which case there is no probable cause hearing by a judge (it is already done by the grand jurors) and then a trial would be set. However, would he do so under the circumstances is another question.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Ornery
"...that the case against the basketball star is weak with gusts up to pathetic."

Unbiased?

Well, do you have your own opinion based on what you read?

"She is not worthy of your belief," Mackey said.

Uh, guess what? If your own wife can't trust you, why should I? We all know he's scum, and it's her word against his. Is she more of a scum than he is? Quite debatable. It's going to trial...

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: dahunan

...Bryant's lawyers this morning opened holes in the testimony of the detective who interviewed Bryant's 19-year-old accuser.

Attorney Pamela Mackey asked Eagle County Sheriff's Det. Doug Winters about his initial interview with the accuser. Winters said that the woman never told Bryant "no" during five minutes of sexual intercourse in an Edwards, Colo., hotel room June 30. When the woman resisted, Bryant stopped,
Winters said.

"When she moved his hand away, he stopped," Mackey said.

"Yes," replied Winters.

"There is no dispute he stopped," Mackey said.

"Correct," Winters said.

Mackey's measured tones contrasted with her confrontational style Thursday, when she brought an end to the first five hours of the hearing with a suggestion that the woman had had sex with two other men in the three days leading up to the encounter with Bryant.

The defense team apparently showed Judge Frederick Gannett in closed session that there was a "good faith basis" for the comment, because Mackey was allowed to pursue a similar line of questioning today....

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-101503kobe_lat,1,984392.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers
AnandTech for username and pass

So they were having consensual sex, she motioned for him to stop and he did...Is this a new definition of rape?

 

[whaleskinrug]

whoever is telling the truth is being harmed grievously -- we will never know the truth

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: dahunan

...Bryant's lawyers this morning opened holes in the testimony of the detective who interviewed Bryant's 19-year-old accuser.

Attorney Pamela Mackey asked Eagle County Sheriff's Det. Doug Winters about his initial interview with the accuser. Winters said that the woman never told Bryant "no" during five minutes of sexual intercourse in an Edwards, Colo., hotel room June 30. When the woman resisted, Bryant stopped,
Winters said.

"When she moved his hand away, he stopped," Mackey said.

"Yes," replied Winters.

"There is no dispute he stopped," Mackey said.

"Correct," Winters said.

Mackey's measured tones contrasted with her confrontational style Thursday, when she brought an end to the first five hours of the hearing with a suggestion that the woman had had sex with two other men in the three days leading up to the encounter with Bryant.

The defense team apparently showed Judge Frederick Gannett in closed session that there was a "good faith basis" for the comment, because Mackey was allowed to pursue a similar line of questioning today....

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-101503kobe_lat,1,984392.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers
AnandTech for username and pass

So they were having consensual sex, she motioned for him to stop and he did...Is this a new definition of rape?

Yes, it's a new fad, "Colorado Rape." If you are rich or famous and having consentual sex, it's rape.

 

[KC5AV]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
magic 8 ball says:

"Ask again later"

It doesn't matter what we think. It doesn't matter if the girl did the entire football team the night before. IF she said stop and he didn't, he's guilty. I don't really care one way or the other.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: KC5AV

Originally posted by: vi_edit
magic 8 ball says:

"Ask again later"

It doesn't matter what we think. It doesn't matter if the girl did the entire football team the night before. IF she said stop and he didn't, he's guilty. I don't really care one way or the other.

She told the detective that when she said stop, Kobe did.