POLL: ATOT moral compass

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Hypo:

Person A dislikes Person B (nothing serious, A just isnt a fan of B). During a take home final, B asks A for his thoughts and possible corroboration with the exam via email, both an express violation of the code of conduct. Such a violation would at the very least invoke a "review" on the matter, reporting the findings of the review on B's permanent record. The maximum punishment B faces is expulsion. The email can be easily traced to be so there is no issue that the claim cannot be authenticated. Should A report B?
 

91TTZ

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No, you'd be a worthless rat who tried to get someone expelled because you don't like them. Decline the offer, but don't rat.
 

Vich

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Will B beat the ****** out of A?
If yes then rethink plan of action.
If no then report.
 

FelixDeCat

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There is nothing to report because nothing has occured unless A agrees to participate in said scheme.
 

mundane

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A wouldn't be doing it out of any moral sense - as was said, they'd be doing it out of malice.
 
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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Hypo:

Person A dislikes Person B (nothing serious, A just isnt a fan of B). During a take home final, B asks A for his thoughts and possible corroboration with the exam via email, both an express violation of the code of conduct. Such a violation would at the very least invoke a "review" on the matter, reporting the findings of the review on B's permanent record. The maximum punishment B faces is expulsion. The email can be easily traced to be so there is no issue that the claim cannot be authenticated. Should A report B?

If persaon B is a girl and hot then Hit-It® and decline collaboration.
 

rgwalt

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What are the rules of the code of conduct? I know that at some universities with an honor code it is a violation to NOT report someone who has violated the code. So, person A would be in violation simply by not telling on person B. This is something to consider.

In this situation I would either do nothing and pretend I never received the message OR report person B.

R
 

Shame

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There is something called the "High Road", you should take it. It is usually easier to follow, and generally speaking, you don't wake up to your car being keyed in the morning...
 
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Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
A wouldn't be doing it out of any moral sense - as was said, they'd be doing it out of malice.

ahhhh, you are getting to the heart of my post. The bigger question here is if A's motive are at all relevant for his actions
 

JulesMaximus

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So, this guy you dislike asked you to help him cheat and you said no. Leave it at that. Karma is a bitch and she'll come back around and bite you in the ass if you do this thing.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
No, you'd be a worthless rat who tried to get someone expelled because you don't like them. Decline the offer, but don't rat.

QFTMFT!! Don't be a jerk just because you have a problem with someone. Like 91TTZ said, decline the offer but don't be a kindergarten tattle-tale.
 
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
So, this guy you dislike asked you to help him cheat and you said no. Leave it at that. Karma is a bitch and she'll come back around and bite you in the ass if you do this thing.

believe it or not, this happened to a friend of some a while ago. I just wanted ATOTs opinion
 

everman

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No I wouldn't bother reporting it. If I knew that someone actually did collaborate with another person then they would get reported.

Oh and I'd say that the ATOT moral compass is more of a bermuda triangle ;)
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
There is nothing to report because nothing has occured unless A agrees to participate in said scheme.

Asking for help is a violation of the rules

Then A should simply remind B that even asking for help is a reportable violation and that any further attempts will be reported to Der Gestapo!!

Seig Heil!
 

Kelemvor

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IF all they did was ask, then just say No, that's against the rules, and forget about it. Nothing gained by telling that he just asked. But if you find out he asks someone else and they accept, then I'd say something.
 
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
There is nothing to report because nothing has occured unless A agrees to participate in said scheme.

Asking for help is a violation of the rules

Then A should simply remind B that even asking for help is reportable violation and that any further attempts will be reported to Der Gestapo!!

Seig Heil!

:laugh:
 

Praxis1452

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This all depends whether it is out of malice.

Is getting B into trouble worth the pleasure and the consequences.

If it's not out of malice but for the "code of honor" don't do it. You trading the consequences for the "code of honor" which unless you place that high a value on isn't that great atleast to me and there is no benefit because you would not have lost anything by not telling.
 

brxndxn

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In college, cheaters are BULLSH1T. I have absolutely no sympathy for them.. In high school, no one gives a sh1t.. so don't be a rat..

But in college, many times how well you do is also dependent on how well the rest of the class did. So, it affects you if others cheat and do better than they would normally.

I've struggled through wayy too many hard-as-hell college courses (never cheating) to let someone by with an easy way out that makes my way harder..