POLL: Are atheists more likely to commit crime?

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mwtgg

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: JackBurton
OP, it's obvious to me you need a magical babysitter to keep you in line.

Is she an atheist? No thanks. She probably thinks she can put her hand in the cookie jar while no one is looking and get away with it. However, if she was raised with values and even knew that "thou shall not steal" was a commandment, bring her on. :)
OH, so that is how you know what is right and wrong. You need to have it written down in your story book. Well can you add "thou shall not have sex with kids" as the 11th Commandment then? Because some religious people don't know that's wrong yet. That would really help out. Thanks.

:thumbsup:
 

Finality

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

Last I checked religion was thriving in the Middle East, more specifically Islam. They supress other religions which by your theory would mean that the other religions would be the ones causing havok when in fact its Islam thats causing the havock. So relgious prosperity = more nut jobs = more crime?

More religous people approve of torture than atheists I'd point you to the secular column
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SampSon
Yes, 94% of convited felons are athiests. 5% of the remainder are agnostic. And the final 1% are religious.

Interesting. Linky?

Bwahahahahha. Sampson pwned you.
 

wfbberzerker

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http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html

Catholic 29,267 31.432%
Protestant 26,162 28.097%
None/Atheist/Unknown 18,537 19.908%
Muslim 5,435 5.837%
American Indian 2,408 2.586%
Nation of Islam 1,734 1.862%
Rastafarian 1,485 1.595%
Jewish 1,325 1.423%
Church of Christ 1,303 1.399%
Pentecostal 1,093 1.174%
Moorish 1,066 1.145%
Buddhist 882 0.947%
Jehovah's Witnesses 665 0.714%
Adventist 621 0.667%
Eastern Orthodox 375 0.403%
Latter-day Saints 298 0.320%
Scientology 190 0.204%
Hindu 119 0.128%
Santeria 117 0.126%
Sikh 14 0.015%
Baha'i 9 0.010%
ISKCON 7 0.008%
-------------------- ------ --------
Total 93,112 100.000%
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison.html

Catholic 29,267 31.432%
Protestant 26,162 28.097%
None/Atheist/Unknown 18,537 19.908%
Muslim 5,435 5.837%
American Indian 2,408 2.586%
Nation of Islam 1,734 1.862%
Rastafarian 1,485 1.595%
Jewish 1,325 1.423%
Church of Christ 1,303 1.399%
Pentecostal 1,093 1.174%
Moorish 1,066 1.145%
Buddhist 882 0.947%
Jehovah's Witnesses 665 0.714%
Adventist 621 0.667%
Eastern Orthodox 375 0.403%
Latter-day Saints 298 0.320%
Scientology 190 0.204%
Hindu 119 0.128%
Santeria 117 0.126%
Sikh 14 0.015%
Baha'i 9 0.010%
ISKCON 7 0.008%
-------------------- ------ --------
Total 93,112 100.000%


Finally, a link. Thank you. :beer:

As previously stated however I wonder if any of those numbers are skewed by either prison conversions or those gave false information. They are criminals after all.
 

FelixDeCat

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From link above, very good read indeed:


"Virtually any article in an academic, peer-reviewed sociology journal that addresses religious behavior and criminal behavior finds that religious behaviors such as church attendance, prayer, home observances, etc., are either negatively correlated to criminal and/or anti-social behavior (drug use, school drop-outs, etc.), or have no correlation. In other words, according to social scientists, religious behavior is associated with lower rates of criminal behavior. "
 

crisscross

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Originally posted by: RBachman
Someone who only acts morally because of the perceived threat of retribution is a far greater danger than someone who does out of empathy. I'd love to see research on this matter. My guess, for a number of reasons, is that believers are proportionally more likely to commit crimes.

QFT
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Fvck no. Look in any prison. Most of those mutherfvckers are religious as hell.

Did you read any of the thread? This has been responded to over and over.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SampSon
Yes, 94% of convited felons are athiests. 5% of the remainder are agnostic. And the final 1% are religious.

Interesting. Linky?

Bwahahahahha. Sampson pwned you.

Still no linky? Are you atheist?

There's no link because Sampson made it up you jackass. You know, to mess with you?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SampSon
Yes, 94% of convited felons are athiests. 5% of the remainder are agnostic. And the final 1% are religious.

Interesting. Linky?

Bwahahahahha. Sampson pwned you.

Still no linky? Are you atheist?

There's no link because Sampson made it up you jackass. You know, to mess with you?


But, you didnt answer the question. Are you afraid to answer? Or would you rather be a jackass?
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SampSon
Yes, 94% of convited felons are athiests. 5% of the remainder are agnostic. And the final 1% are religious.

Interesting. Linky?

Bwahahahahha. Sampson pwned you.

Still no linky? Are you atheist?

There's no link because Sampson made it up you jackass. You know, to mess with you?


But, you didnt answer the question. Are you afraid to answer? Or would you rather be a jackass?

Because there's already a thread for that you jackass.
 

Eeezee

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I could make a racist remark right now by saying that most blacks/mexicans are christian, but I'll choose to allude to it instead.
 

Eeezee

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How could you honestly believe that lack of mythical belief has anything to do with crime? 28 people clicked yes? Okay, so how many of those 28 clicked the wrong button and how many of those 28 are flipping retarded?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
I could make a racist remark right now by saying that most blacks/mexicans are christian, but I'll choose to allude to it instead.

While minorities prison populations are large, the ones that are incarcerated and arent atheist more than likely did not follow the tennents of their faith. That failure led the bahavior that landed them in jail. See quote above.

 

fire400

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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
All people have a sin nature and are equally likely to break man's laws.

this guy said it well, I am supportting this quote.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
How could you honestly believe that lack of mythical belief has anything to do with crime? 28 people clicked yes? Okay, so how many of those 28 clicked the wrong button and how many of those 28 are flipping retarded?


Atheists are moral relativists and are prone to thinking that anything, including murder is ok as long as you dont get caught, for there is no God to hold them accoutable. No afterlife to miss out on, no ancestors or family to meet.

That is flipping retarded.
 

Compton

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: Eeezee
How could you honestly believe that lack of mythical belief has anything to do with crime? 28 people clicked yes? Okay, so how many of those 28 clicked the wrong button and how many of those 28 are flipping retarded?


Atheists are moral relativists and are prone to thinking that anything, including murder is ok as long as you dont get caught, for there is no God to hold them accoutable. No afterlife to miss out on, no ancestors or family to meet.

That is flipping retarded.

The sleaziest people I've ever known were very religious, but I'm not going to make a thread trashing religious people.

How many atheists do you really know? And WTF makes you think they condone murder?
 
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no religious peron I know would abstain from murder because they thought God was watching them. Not that this is a news flash, but AT is populated with idiots