POLL: Are atheists more likely to commit crime?

[EatSpam]

I don't think they're anymore likely than anyone else.

<--- Atheist whose worst crime has been speeding.

So the only reason you don't go off and murder and rob is because you fear a god? What about respecting and maintaining the respect of your fellow man? What about acting in a civilized fashion? Hell, what about the cops? I hope this isn't the case.

 

[Legend]

Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

 

[BD2003]

There is a negative correlation between level of education and committing of crime.
There is a negative correlation between level of education and belief in god.

Make of that what you will.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

Yeah, we learned all about that at atheist camp last summer and it was reenforced by the atheist preacher last Sunday. :roll:

Atheism is the absence of religion. It doesn't teach anything at all. A religionist devotes a percentage of their thoughts, time, emotion, etc. to their religion. An atheist does not. Simple.

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

You're sounding like a self-righteous fundamentalist...

Not all religions teach the same things, and some of those morals are subjective. That would be like saying that all atheists strongly believe in philosophy, and are more moral.

Your point of China shows exactly what I'm talking about. There's no correlation. Some religious people are moral, others are not. Some atheists are moral, others are not.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: BD2003
There is a negative correlation between level of education and committing of crime.
There is a negative correlation between level of education and belief in god.

Make of that what you will.

No education makes you poor, being poor makes you A) commit crime B) seek comfort in something spiritual outside of your poor life, and rely on the possibility of a better life after death.

probably why religions was so popular in the middle ages

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

Yeah, we learned all about that at atheist camp last summer and it was reenforced by the atheist preacher last Sunday. :roll:

Atheism is the absence of religion. It doesn't teach anything at all. A religionist devotes a percentage of their thoughts, time, emotion, etc. to their religion. An atheist does not. Simple.

So we agree. But Ive never heard the term "religionist" before. And because an atheist does not receive moral instruction by default, doesnt that leave them susceptable to immoral behavior?

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

Yeah, we learned all about that at atheist camp last summer and it was reenforced by the atheist preacher last Sunday. :roll:

Atheism is the absence of religion. It doesn't teach anything at all. A religionist devotes a percentage of their thoughts, time, emotion, etc. to their religion. An atheist does not. Simple.

So we agree. But Ive never heard the term "religionist" before. And because an atheist does not receive moral instruction by default, doesnt that leave them susceptable to immoral behavior?

Of course, because morality is only taught by going to church.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: BD2003
There is a negative correlation between level of education and committing of crime.
There is a negative correlation between level of education and belief in god.

Make of that what you will.

No education makes you poor, being poor makes you A) commit crime B) seek comfort in something spiritual outside of your poor life, and rely on the possibility of a better life after death.

probably why religions was so popular in the middle ages

Also, they were a way of keeping the masses loyal to their king, with their king being divinely appointed and what not.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: Legend

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

You're sounding like a self-righteous fundamentalist...

Not all religions teach the same things, and some of those morals are subjective. That would be like saying that all atheists strongly believe in philosophy, and are more moral.

Your point of China shows exactly what I'm talking about. There's no correlation. Some religious people are moral, others are not. Some atheists are moral, others are not.

Youre repeating what I already said. Both types exist for believers and non believers. China is atheist and suppresses religion.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

Yeah, we learned all about that at atheist camp last summer and it was reenforced by the atheist preacher last Sunday. :roll:

Atheism is the absence of religion. It doesn't teach anything at all. A religionist devotes a percentage of their thoughts, time, emotion, etc. to their religion. An atheist does not. Simple.

So we agree. But Ive never heard the term "religionist" before. And because an atheist does not receive moral instruction by default, doesnt that leave them susceptable to immoral behavior?

Religionist = follower of religion. Kind of like when conservative talk show commentators refer to Islamists.

One doesn't need church to receive moral instruction. A loving parent leading by example is a very affective moral teacher.

 

[dmw16]

I read a study once that showed a connection between religion and violent crimes in western civilizations. It found that devloped nations with a higher rate of belief in god had a higher rate of violent crimes.

 

[bersl2]

OK, WTF?

Die in a fire, OP.

 

[iversonyin]

Sure, because we don't believe in God we have no moral.

Whatever.......

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Legend
Religion and morals are not related. You've got the moral ones, and then you've got the abortion bombing ones. Or just look at the Middle East.

Relegion teaches you morals, so it is related. Atheism teaches you nothing, except that if you dont get caught its ok (assuming you didnt have a moral belief to do otherwise). So an atheist could bomb a clinic or a church.

And yes, look at the Middle East, especially the far east like China, where religion is supressed by the government and they kill anyone at will for any reason whatsoever.

You're sounding like a self-righteous fundamentalist...

Not all religions teach the same things, and some of those morals are subjective. That would be like saying that all atheists strongly believe in philosophy, and are more moral.

Your point of China shows exactly what I'm talking about. There's no correlation. Some religious people are moral, others are not. Some atheists are moral, others are not.

Youre repeating what I already said. Both types exist for believers and non believers. China is atheist and suppresses religion.

So there crimes in China because of there is no religion or because the GDP per capita is so low that many people couldn't afford to live?

Is that 0 crime rate in a community full of those who followed religion? Last time I check God doesn't give you a mind free of sinful thought.....

Whatever OP.....spread your B/S in P&N not here

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: iversonyin
So there crimes in China because of there is no religion or because the GDP per capita is so low that many people couldn't afford to live?

Is that 0 crime rate in a community full of those who followed religion? Last time I check God doesn't give you a mind free of sinful thought.....

Whatever OP.....spread your B/S in P&N not here

You extrapolated an incorrect interpretation of my statement. But please, you digress...answer the question.

Does atheism play a role in criminal behaviour?

 

[Howard]

hahahahahaa

 

[Kalvin00]

no.

we got all these mexicans running around in their gangs, wearing their sweatshirts with ****** jesus on them. doesnt look like its doing much good there

 

[jjyiz28]

no, but blacks are. its a statistical fact

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: BD2003
There is a negative correlation between level of education and committing of crime.
There is a negative correlation between level of education and belief in god.

Make of that what you will.

/thread

 

[JackBurton]

OP, it's obvious to me you need a magical babysitter to keep you in line.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
OP, it's obvious to me you need a magical babysitter to keep you in line.

Is she an atheist? No thanks. She probably thinks she can put her hand in the cookie jar while no one is looking and get away with it. However, if she was raised with values and even knew that "thou shall not steal" was a commandment, bring her on.

 

[FoBoT]

of course, to them there is no right or wrong, its all relative

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: JackBurton
OP, it's obvious to me you need a magical babysitter to keep you in line.

Is she an atheist? No thanks. She probably thinks she can put her hand in the cookie jar while no one is looking and get away with it. However, if she was raised with values and even knew that "thou shall not steal" was a commandment, bring her on.

OH, so that is how you know what is right and wrong. You need to have it written down in your story book. Well can you add "thou shall not have sex with kids" as the 11th Commandment then? Because some religious people don't know that's wrong yet. That would really help out. Thanks.