Can that deck read DVD disks with MP3's?
4.7 GB of 256kbps MP3's would make for a long trip without having to mess with disks!
Can that deck read DVD disks with MP3's?
4.7 GB of 256kbps MP3's would make for a long trip without having to mess with disks!
I was using a Sony DVD player with SACD abilities, but I never had the chance to test an SACD before i gave it to my brother.
Stupid remastered Downward Spiral, it came too late.
Stupid remastered Downward Spiral, it came too late.
mrSHEiK124
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SHIT, I just realized this thread was 2 months old, sorry, it pulled up in a search
You'd need masters of whatever you are using at 192khz/24bit, so unless you work at the record company, dream on. Unless of course you were planning on using something you recorded
You'd need masters of whatever you are using at 192khz/24bit, so unless you work at the record company, dream on. Unless of course you were planning on using something you recorded
CD was designed to be the perfect carrier of sound... SACD and DVDA are worthless IMHO. Worse than 'remasters'. God I hate remasters. Nothing like ruining perfectly good recordings with compression/limiting. Fvcking white noise.
That and FVCK copy protection. Another dent in fair use rights.
CD + EAC + FLAC == The Perfect medium. FLAC files on a DVDR would be the ideal thing for me.
That and FVCK copy protection. Another dent in fair use rights.
CD + EAC + FLAC == The Perfect medium. FLAC files on a DVDR would be the ideal thing for me.
Nonsense.
CD's have 90 dB of dynamic range. Each sample can only have 65,536 discrete voltage levels and there are only 44,100 samples in each second of recording. Far too coarse to be considered an ideal medium. It's a compromise at best. Convenient carrier but it's also quite dated and approaching 30 years old.
Original masters sound quite good and can be transfered to better sounding media and sound better in the process. Too bad too many people have their hands on the remastering process that should not AND the higher resolution and lower noise floors of 24/96/192 etc. will make these more apparent.
It was perfect at the time. Compromise yes, and I wouldn't mind an update. Minus the copy protection. Copy protection inevitably leads to SQ loss. Pure music and copy protection are diametrically opposed.
24-bit/192Khz would be way more than anything a humar ear could tell. Do we really need more than 90db of range? What speaker system could reproduce that?
And yes... way too many people get thier hands on the remastering process that have no idea what they are doing. The overuse of compressors/gates/and limiters has really killed mainstream music.
24-bit/192Khz would be way more than anything a humar ear could tell. Do we really need more than 90db of range? What speaker system could reproduce that?
And yes... way too many people get thier hands on the remastering process that have no idea what they are doing. The overuse of compressors/gates/and limiters has really killed mainstream music.
The copy protection sucks and the fact you need a really good player because high end users can't output the sound using there own D-A converters which they already spent 1000's on. When they went that route I knew DVD-A was dead in the water.
The sad truth is really doesn't matter, you can spend thousand on your home audio and have it ruined by some dumbass that doesn't know how to record properly. I've heard really good cd's and really bad cd's so I'm sure DVD-A is the same.
CD: 16bit and 44.1 K
DVD-A: 24bit and 96 K
not a huge leap really but it did add something when sound engineers where able to bring out the extra bits.
I wonder what kind of improvements we will get when they release BluRay.
The sad truth is really doesn't matter, you can spend thousand on your home audio and have it ruined by some dumbass that doesn't know how to record properly. I've heard really good cd's and really bad cd's so I'm sure DVD-A is the same.
CD: 16bit and 44.1 K
DVD-A: 24bit and 96 K
not a huge leap really but it did add something when sound engineers where able to bring out the extra bits.
I wonder what kind of improvements we will get when they release BluRay.
Ok, no offense, but have the people who say DVD-A isn't any better sounding actually listened to one?
I've only heard a couple, but they totally blow away the CD versions of the same album. And this is with (*puts flamesuit on*) Linkin Park and Metallica. I can only imagine how awesome the more pure music sounds (classical, etc.). Also, this is with (Nebor would certainly call these crappy) Creative Gigaworks and an Audigy 2 ZS (which downsamples), so a higher end (read: audiophile or HT enthusiast) player/reciever/speaker setup would be unbelievable.
To me, DVD-A sounds like the ultimate solution, as the copy protection would benefit the record labels (or so they would say) and the increased sound quality would be good for the consumer.
I've only heard a couple, but they totally blow away the CD versions of the same album. And this is with (*puts flamesuit on*) Linkin Park and Metallica. I can only imagine how awesome the more pure music sounds (classical, etc.). Also, this is with (Nebor would certainly call these crappy) Creative Gigaworks and an Audigy 2 ZS (which downsamples), so a higher end (read: audiophile or HT enthusiast) player/reciever/speaker setup would be unbelievable.
To me, DVD-A sounds like the ultimate solution, as the copy protection would benefit the record labels (or so they would say) and the increased sound quality would be good for the consumer.
Please acquant yourself with Metropolis records I pray for the salvation of your soul.
As for copy protection
http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/copyprot/copyprot.htm
Are those mostly CDs or what, I'm confused...
Either way, thanks for the link (I was saying those are the only two DVD-A discs I've really heard, not music I've heard if you were saying I had poor taste in music).
Also, isn't that article focusing on CD copy-protection? Wouldn't that on SACD/DVD-A be different, or is that just kind of an article making the point that no copy protection will really work (due to them having to then change the music's data on the disc)?
FeuerFrei
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After hearing the R.E.M. and NIN DVD-A discs I would be willing to never buy a regular CD again. IT blew me away. Even the lower res Dolby Digital 5.1 mix was amazing. Only reason I need a regular CD would be for ripping purposes.
However, with the limited selection of DVD-A titles I actually like, I see no reason to buy a DVDA/SACD player. I'm happy playing the discs on my computer and pumping the multichannel audio to my receiver for decoding.
However, with the limited selection of DVD-A titles I actually like, I see no reason to buy a DVDA/SACD player. I'm happy playing the discs on my computer and pumping the multichannel audio to my receiver for decoding.
The ideal I meant was that copy protection is bound to fail.
If it works, then it impedes the sound quality
It it doesn't impede the sound quality, its not working.
also good links
http://cites.boisestate.edu/v4i11a.htm
http://www.info-mech.com/drm_flaws.html
If it works, then it impedes the sound quality
It it doesn't impede the sound quality, its not working.
also good links
http://cites.boisestate.edu/v4i11a.htm
http://www.info-mech.com/drm_flaws.html
0roo0roo
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never tried
but i'm sure the difference on good equipment is nice. and having a format where the potential is as high as possible is also optimal.
its a shame the bastards killed both formats with overzealous copy protection. rip to mp3? or cd so you can play in the car? make my own music mixes? NO WAY!! treat customers like criminals instead why would customers say yes to that bs
and overcharging. dvda mighta took off if it were launched with dvd. instead it was delayed for copy protection enhancement or something. so now the installed base of players is tiny compared to the millions of dvd players over fearful execs sadly murdered both formats.
but i'm sure the difference on good equipment is nice. and having a format where the potential is as high as possible is also optimal.
its a shame the bastards killed both formats with overzealous copy protection. rip to mp3? or cd so you can play in the car? make my own music mixes? NO WAY!! treat customers like criminals instead
why would customers say yes to that bsand overcharging. dvda mighta took off if it were launched with dvd. instead it was delayed for copy protection enhancement or something. so now the installed base of players is tiny compared to the millions of dvd players
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