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DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
now, you were saying in another thread THAT GOT LOCKED, that you have a masturbation addiction DannyBoy.

are you seeking help?

no, it is a perfectly normal thing that im sure 95% of the male population of the wolrd thoroughly enjoy.

Now, could you please leave my thread?

Incase you didnt notice, this is a discussion on alcoholism, not masturbation.

Are you seeking help for your blindness?

You obviously cant read the thread title.
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
:music:Oh, Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling:music:from glen to glen:music:..
"He was a good lad; but he had the failing." I'm only 1/16 Irish and I got the Irish Virus,
whats it to ya? Ever read Frank Mc Court, Angela's Ashes or better yet 'Tis ?

At 57 i'm 21 c&s. Lost 2 younger siblings to untreated addictions.

Never had it so good! I still feel as if I cheated the devil.

PM me if you ever get to LA. John...:sun:

Angela's Ashes :beer:

Cheers galvanizedyankee :beer:
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
now, you were saying in another thread THAT GOT LOCKED, that you have a masturbation addiction DannyBoy.

are you seeking help?

no, it is a perfectly normal thing that im sure 95% of the male population of the wolrd thoroughly enjoy.

Now, could you please leave my thread?

Incase you didnt notice, this is a discussion on alcoholism, not masturbation.

Are you seeking help for your blindness?

You obviously cant read the thread title.
you are the one wearing glasses
due to just what they told you
you'll go blind from masturbating too much

you are getting there!

 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
now, you were saying in another thread THAT GOT LOCKED, that you have a masturbation addiction DannyBoy.

are you seeking help?

no, it is a perfectly normal thing that im sure 95% of the male population of the wolrd thoroughly enjoy.

Now, could you please leave my thread?

Incase you didnt notice, this is a discussion on alcoholism, not masturbation.

Are you seeking help for your blindness?

You obviously cant read the thread title.
you are the one wearing glasses
due to just what they told you
you'll go blind from masturbating too much

you are getting there!

a) I dont wear glasses

b) who told me what?

c) I dont masturbate, i have a girlfriend.

d) Have you realised yet that the title of this thread is "POLL: Alcoholism..." ??? :|
 

NesuD

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My stepfather was an alchoholic. Damn ugly man to grow up with. I know what your dealing with Dannyboy. Only advice i can offer is to look out for yourself. You can't help your Mum so at the very least take care of yourself.
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: NesuD
My stepfather was an alchoholic. Damn ugly man to grow up with. I know what your dealing with Dannyboy. Only advice i can offer is to look out for yourself. You can't help your Mum so at the very least take care of yourself.

Ive learned that the past few years.

The only person who can help her is herself.

Shes been to 2 different rehabilitation centres now and come out early and continued the drink.

Its saddening because she is a lovely person when sober :(
 

Gravity

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
just because you drink a lot doesn't make you an alcoholic.
alcoholism is a disease.
alcoholics HAVE to drink
and mostly drink alone.

um, WHAT???

Drinking alone can be a symptom most alcoholics look for like minded individuals to share their habit with. In between parties and binges they do drink alone but not mostly. Just my humble opinion after working in the field with alcoholics and their children for the last 16 years.

 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: upsciLLion
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: upsciLLion
I am one, but I make sure I don't drink alone and that I don't drink very often.

ups

In that case, you are not an alcoholic.

Not necessarily. With enough self-discipline it is possible to keep alcoholism under control. Even people that go through AA and have been dry for decades are still considered alcoholics.

ups

ie, you are not an alcoholic. self control == not alcoholic
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:
 

TwiceOver

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I work with drug addicts and alcoholics every day so yes, I know a lot of them. Drinking regularly and being an alcoholic are two separate things. Most serious alcoholics do not drink to get drunk, but rather drink to stay away from reality or to maintain their own version of reality. The real difference is if a person can stop drinking without any side effects. Most alcoholics will suffer from chemical withdrawl within 8 hrs without alcohol, let me tell you, it's not a pretty sight. I have seen people go into siezure, fight for alcohol, and become extremely ill.

Those who have been able to stay away from alcohol (usually via AA or some sort of treatment) are considered to be "Recovering Alcoholics" but none the less they are still "Alcoholics".
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:

Perhaps only people drunk enough not to recognise her face will give her attention :(

I remember one of, hmm, cant remember whos post it was, but it was along the lines of "Any female that posts on a hardware discussion forum is either ugly or nuts"...

Hmm..
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:

well i guess i was trying to be a payback attentionwhore.
DannyBoy flies into a thread of mine and smacks some masturbation post in it and IT GETS LOCKED immediately.
that is the only reason i did it.
and screw you galvanizedyankee.
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I work with drug addicts and alcoholics every day so yes, I know a lot of them. Drinking regularly and being an alcoholic are two separate things. Most serious alcoholics do not drink to get drunk, but rather drink to stay away from reality or to maintain their own version of reality. The real difference is if a person can stop drinking without any side effects. Most alcoholics will suffer from chemical withdrawl within 8 hrs without alcohol, let me tell you, it's not a pretty sight. I have seen people go into siezure, fight for alcohol, and become extremely ill.

Those who have been able to stay away from alcohol (usually via AA or some sort of treatment) are considered to be "Recovering Alcoholics" but none the less they are still "Alcoholics".

My mum projectile vomited blood across the room onto the opposing wall once during withdrawal when one of the varacus veins in her stomach went..
 

seepy83

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Originally posted by: DannyBoy

Ive learned that the past few years.

The only person who can help her is herself.

Shes been to 2 different rehabilitation centres now and come out early and continued the drink.

Its saddening because she is a lovely person when sober :(

sounds all too similar to my situation at home. my dad is an alcoholic...he drank the first 8 years of my life. there was a year or so when he was in and out of rehab, and in and out of sobriety. when i was 9 or 10 he made some real serious steps and stopped drinking. it lasted till i was 16-17...then it all started again. his binges last for usually a week or 2...and that's a week or 2 of not going to work and basically just drinking and sleeping. his last serious one ended with him in the hospital with a blood alcohol level of 5.0, and the doctors said it was really a miracle he was alive. that was in early november...since then he went to rehab for only a week (absolutely rediculous, but thats another story involving how horrible the addiction rehab has become in the US...mostly because of insurance companies), he was going to AA meetings just about every day, but then just this weekend i came home to him passed out drunk. i'm 20 years old now...and i think i'm very lucky to understand what addiction involes, in that i know there is nothing i can do to fix it, and it's really not my problem. i'm very unlucky, however, to have to watch my father litteraly drink himself to death. i just hope he takes the path of sobriety before it's too late...he is a wonderful person when he's sober. he's never physically abusive or anything like that...he just has a very serious addiction.
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:

well i guess i was trying to be a payback attentionwhore.
DannyBoy flies into a thread of mine and smacks some masturbation post in it and IT GETS LOCKED immediately.
that is the only reason i did it.
and screw you galvanizedyankee.

That is really, really immature...

You didnt perhaps consider your thread getting locked due to the fact it was a totally pointless thread? No?

No, you assumed it was my post that got it locked. Perhaps it was my post, but it wasnt definately my post now, was it?

Why not pm the mods and ask, seeing as its causing you so much emotional pain.

Im sure if you ask nicely to get your thread unlocked my post can be edited out...

But then again, saying that, if it was purely MY post that was the PROBLEM, why did the mods not just edit my post and send me on vacation?
rolleye.gif


Do me a favour mosh, get the fvck out my thread as im trying to have a serious discussion.
 

aircooled

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after I finish this joint I might have something to say about it...

nevermind... there's a bottle of rum here too...
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:

well i guess i was trying to be a payback attentionwhore.
DannyBoy flies into a thread of mine and smacks some masturbation post in it and IT GETS LOCKED immediately.
that is the only reason i did it.
and screw you galvanizedyankee.

That is really, really immature...

You didnt perhaps consider your thread getting locked due to the fact it was a totally pointless thread? No?

No, you assumed it was my post that got it locked. Perhaps it was my post, but it wasnt definately my post now, was it?

Why not pm the mods and ask, seeing as its causing you so much emotional pain.

Im sure if you ask nicely to get your thread unlocked my post can be edited out...

But then again, saying that, if it was purely MY post that was the PROBLEM, why did the mods not just edit my post and send me on vacation?
rolleye.gif


Do me a favour mosh, get the fvck out my thread as im trying to have a serious discussion.
blah.....blah......blah......

kma
you started it dumbass

 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: seepy83
Originally posted by: DannyBoy

Ive learned that the past few years.

The only person who can help her is herself.

Shes been to 2 different rehabilitation centres now and come out early and continued the drink.

Its saddening because she is a lovely person when sober :(

sounds all too similar to my situation at home. my dad is an alcoholic...he drank the first 8 years of my life. there was a year or so when he was in and out of rehab, and in and out of sobriety. when i was 9 or 10 he made some real serious steps and stopped drinking. it lasted till i was 16-17...then it all started again. his binges last for usually a week or 2...and that's a week or 2 of not going to work and basically just drinking and sleeping. his last serious one ended with him in the hospital with a blood alcohol level of 5.0, and the doctors said it was really a miracle he was alive. that was in early november...since then he went to rehab for only a week (absolutely rediculous, but thats another story involving how horrible the addiction rehab has become in the US...mostly because of insurance companies), he was going to AA meetings just about every day, but then just this weekend i came home to him passed out drunk. i'm 20 years old now...and i think i'm very lucky to understand what addiction involes, in that i know there is nothing i can do to fix it, and it's really not my problem. i'm very unlucky, however, to have to watch my father litteraly drink himself to death. i just hope he takes the path of sobriety before it's too late...he is a wonderful person when he's sober. he's never physically abusive or anything like that...he just has a very serious addiction.

I know the feeling :(

Im literally watching my mothers life fade away.

She ended up in hospital once with a blood alcohol level nearly twice of what is considered fatal..
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DannyBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Originally posted by: moshquerade
a lot of guys masturbate AND have a girlfriend

is there something wrong with them?

Mosh are you being an attention whore or does a thread like this bother you because
only drunks will do you, or are they the only ppl that give you the attention you seem to
require????

:confused:

well i guess i was trying to be a payback attentionwhore.
DannyBoy flies into a thread of mine and smacks some masturbation post in it and IT GETS LOCKED immediately.
that is the only reason i did it.
and screw you galvanizedyankee.

That is really, really immature...

You didnt perhaps consider your thread getting locked due to the fact it was a totally pointless thread? No?

No, you assumed it was my post that got it locked. Perhaps it was my post, but it wasnt definately my post now, was it?

Why not pm the mods and ask, seeing as its causing you so much emotional pain.

Im sure if you ask nicely to get your thread unlocked my post can be edited out...

But then again, saying that, if it was purely MY post that was the PROBLEM, why did the mods not just edit my post and send me on vacation?
rolleye.gif


Do me a favour mosh, get the fvck out my thread as im trying to have a serious discussion.
blah.....blah......blah......

kma
you started it dumbass

blah blah blah?

You seem to lack a certain amount of social skills.

Probably due to your age, how old are you? 14?

"You started it"
"blah blah blah"
"dumbass"

rolleye.gif
 

GalvanizedYankee

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You ppl that were or are being raised in alcoholic households. Please realized that very
often you become the adult, even at 10 or 12, and the alcoholic parent becomes the
child. This can cause great difficulty for some of you later in life.
Read, John Bradshaw's "The Shame That Binds" or anything by Pia Melody.
The true shame is in keeping the secret!!
 

seepy83

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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
You ppl that were or are being raised in alcoholic households. Please realized that very
often you become the adult, even at 10 or 12, and the alcoholic parent becomes the
child. This can cause great difficulty for some of you later in life.
Read, John Bradshaw's "The Shame That Binds" or anything by Pia Melody.
The true shame is in keeping the secret!!

hmm, i might look into that. i'm not much of a reader, but i think this might interest me.
throughout everything i have had my mother here as well, my parents are still together. she's got a very good head on her shoulders and handles everything much better than anyone else could (IMO). but i do feel like i gave up alot and took on some adult qualities a little too early in life.
well...thanks for the suggestion, i'm gonna look into it.
 

DannyBoy

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Originally posted by: seepy83
Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
You ppl that were or are being raised in alcoholic households. Please realized that very
often you become the adult, even at 10 or 12, and the alcoholic parent becomes the
child. This can cause great difficulty for some of you later in life.
Read, John Bradshaw's "The Shame That Binds" or anything by Pia Melody.
The true shame is in keeping the secret!!

hmm, i might look into that. i'm not much of a reader, but i think this might interest me.
throughout everything i have had my mother here as well, my parents are still together. she's got a very good head on her shoulders and handles everything much better than anyone else could (IMO). but i do feel like i gave up alot and took on some adult qualities a little too early in life.
well...thanks for the suggestion, i'm gonna look into it.

consider looking into alanon if you havnt already.

i have been to a few of their meets, they are a community similar to AA, only its for young people who live / lived with alcoholics in the family.

Its helped me out in some areas, to discuss things about how coping with life after growing up with an alcoholic.

There are a lot of things drummed into my head from my childhood, a lot of things in my personality now that I would of never thought linked in with growing up with an alcoholic.

Dan