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POLL: 9/11 staged?

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Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti

And you don't think the thousands of pilots in the Airforce, Navy, and private airlines haven't said anything about it? I haven't heard anything about it.

Who's to say they haven't? I've seen and heard plenty of other people that share the same opinion as me concerning 9/11.
As far as seeing/hearing this in the media goes, you're kidding, right? Do you really think the mainstream media would dare touch this topic? Not with a 10 foot pole. They'd lose so much revenue due to loss of viewership as to make one's head spin. All the flag-waving, beef-eating, nascar-watching sheeple wouldn't stand for it.
 

DaveSimmons

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Being lied to about Iraq gives the tiniest bit of credibilty to the conspiracy kooks, since they can argue: if this administration will accept hundreds of American and thousands of Iraqi cauialties to stop a non-existent threat and help get Bush re-elected, why wouldn't these same people consider a few thousand civilians an "acceptable" sacrifice?

But despite the WMD lies I don't personally think 9/11 was even preventable except in hindsight. The American public would not have accepted current airport security levels based on no more than vague suspicions of a terrorist plot, and we don't even know for sure that heightened security would have been enough.
 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've read there were no Jews in the Towers that day.

stfu troll
I'm serious. I read that the Jewish names on the "official government list" of victims were faked. I read there were no Jews in the Towers that day, they all got a page or phone call from the Israeli Mossad the day before, or something like that.
 

ElFenix

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i voted yes but only because the illuminati controls everything
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti

And you don't think the thousands of pilots in the Airforce, Navy, and private airlines haven't said anything about it? I haven't heard anything about it.

Who's to say they haven't? I've seen and heard plenty of other people that share the same opinion as me concerning 9/11.
As far as seeing/hearing this in the media goes, you're kidding, right? Do you really think the mainstream media would dare touch this topic? Not with a 10 foot pole. They'd lose so much revenue due to loss of viewership as to make one's head spin. All the flag-waving, beef-eating, nascar-watching sheeple wouldn't stand for it.

So you aren't a flag-waver? Then go somewhere else, because the U.S.A. doesn't need you, you idiot.

And as for the Nascar comment, nice stereotyping, you dumb bastard.

LOL, let's clarify a few things here: I live in the South (Oklahoma, to be precise) and it's a fact that the majority of Southern Americans are exactly as I described them. Don't believe me? I'll have to take some pics some time ;)
Funny you should tell me to get out of the country (real thought-provoking argument there, btw)
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I am getting the hell out of this G-d-forsaken country "Babylon, the Great". I'm leaving ASAP! If anyone wants to contribute to a fund to get me out quicker go right ahead and start a "get Flyermax the fsck out of our country" fund then ;)
 

TekDemon

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well I'll say that there's a 99% chance that it wasn't staged, but you never know anything for sure. Nonetheless I voted no since that's really the only logical thing.
 

NeoV

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for all of you pinheads that still think "there were no jews" in the 2 towers that day, please get a clue...this was published, initially, by an arab newspaper that is as non-biased as Fox news is liberal....in other words, it isn't true..

Hey flyer, my brother is a pilot too, and he has no such opinions on the events of that day...care to tell us why exactly you don't agree with the 'govt' version of what happened that day?
 

Ant001

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've read there were no Jews in the Towers that day.

stfu troll
I'm serious. I read that the Jewish names on the "official government list" of victims were faked. I read there were no Jews in the Towers that day, they all got a page or phone call from the Israeli Mossad the day before, or something like that.



I read once that Celerons were t3h ub4r. No seriously! That's why everyone should buy them!
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: NeoV
for all of you pinheads that still think "there were no jews" in the 2 towers that day, please get a clue...this was published, initially, by an arab newspaper that is as non-biased as Fox news is liberal....in other words, it isn't true..

Hey flyer, my brother is a pilot too, and he has no such opinions on the events of that day...care to tell us why exactly you don't agree with the 'govt' version of what happened that day?

Could've sworn I responded to your post already.... Must be going senile in my old age :p
I don't agree with what happened because of the official timeline of events of that day. There are Federal Aviation Regulations setup for just such an event (intercepting a plane believed to have been hijacked) and said FARs were in no way followed by the Government/Military/ARTCC/ATC on that day. There was more than enough time to have intercepted those planes, and yet nothing was done about them.
There's absolutely no way I can relate every experience I've had which has led me to this conclusion, I don't have the time, nor the memory recall ability to even scratch the surface of that subject.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
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x oneoneoneoneone!!!!111 If that's not a joke you do realize providing false information to the FBI can lead to imprisonment and a fine, right? Not only that but a character assassination lawsuit will be filed immediately if this isn't a joke.
 

tcsenter

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Sep 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ant001
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: tcsenter
I've read there were no Jews in the Towers that day.

stfu troll
I'm serious. I read that the Jewish names on the "official government list" of victims were faked. I read there were no Jews in the Towers that day, they all got a page or phone call from the Israeli Mossad the day before, or something like that.

I read once that Celerons were t3h ub4r. No seriously! That's why everyone should buy them!
Ha! Well shows how much you know.

The VIA C3 processor is t3h ub4r l33t and that's why everyone should buy two.
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
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x oneoneoneoneone!!!!111 If that's not a joke you do realize providing false information to the FBI can lead to imprisonment and a fine, right? Not only that but a character assassination lawsuit will be filed immediately if this isn't a joke.

You see that network connection disconnected icon in the tasbar? Why do you think it's there? You really think I wanna get involved with some FBI business over a forum discussion?
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
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x oneoneoneoneone!!!!111 If that's not a joke you do realize providing false information to the FBI can lead to imprisonment and a fine, right? Not only that but a character assassination lawsuit will be filed immediately if this isn't a joke.

You see that network connection disconnected icon in the tasbar? Why do you think it's there? You really think I wanna get involved with some FBI business over a forum discussion?

Suddenly it's not so funny anymore, is it? I would advise not to pull such stunts in the future, as they can lead to serious legal repercussions. An apology would be in order at this point...
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
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rolleye.gif
x oneoneoneoneone!!!!111 If that's not a joke you do realize providing false information to the FBI can lead to imprisonment and a fine, right? Not only that but a character assassination lawsuit will be filed immediately if this isn't a joke.

You see that network connection disconnected icon in the tasbar? Why do you think it's there? You really think I wanna get involved with some FBI business over a forum discussion?

Suddenly it's not so funny anymore, is it? I would advise not to pull such stunts in the future, as they can lead to serious legal repercussions. An apology would be in order at this point...


Ok, I am very sorry.
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
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rolleye.gif
x oneoneoneoneone!!!!111 If that's not a joke you do realize providing false information to the FBI can lead to imprisonment and a fine, right? Not only that but a character assassination lawsuit will be filed immediately if this isn't a joke.

You see that network connection disconnected icon in the tasbar? Why do you think it's there? You really think I wanna get involved with some FBI business over a forum discussion?

Suddenly it's not so funny anymore, is it? I would advise not to pull such stunts in the future, as they can lead to serious legal repercussions. An apology would be in order at this point...


Ok, I am very sorry.
 

tcsenter

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I don't agree with what happened because of the official timeline of events of that day. There are Federal Aviation Regulations setup for just such an event (intercepting a plane believed to have been hijacked) and said FARs were in no way followed by the Government/Military/ARTCC/ATC on that day. There was more than enough time to have intercepted those planes, and yet nothing was done about them.
lol! How can one "disagree" with facts?

"Mr. Jones was documented by security video to leave the building at 6:13PM on the evening of the 25th."

"I don't agree with that."

"Umm...you don't agree with what."

"I don't agree that Mr. Jones left the building at 6:13PM on the evening of the 25th."

"Ummm...but we have the building surveillance tapes showing..."

"I don't agree with that."

"You don't agree with what?"

"I don't agree."

"What is the basis of your disagreement?"

"I just don't see it."

"You don't see what?"

"I just don't agree with that."

"What part don't you agree with?"

"You know...the whole thing."

"Sir, may I suggest you take a long walk off a short pier and get back to us?"

"I don't agree with that."
 

glugglug

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Just to be clear on this, by "staged" I meant that the plane crashes were intentionally caused by those in power in this country, and had nothing to do with Al Quaeda. There is no question of whether the crashes actually happened or not, just the question of WHO masterminded them.

BTW Skoorb: Before you made this copy of the thread, the "Yes" or "Probably" percentages were holding steady around 30%.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Mar 1, 2003
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
I don't agree with what happened because of the official timeline of events of that day. There are Federal Aviation Regulations setup for just such an event (intercepting a plane believed to have been hijacked) and said FARs were in no way followed by the Government/Military/ARTCC/ATC on that day. There was more than enough time to have intercepted those planes, and yet nothing was done about them.
lol! How can one "disagree" with facts?

"Mr. Jones was documented by security video to leave the building at 6:13PM on the evening of the 25th."

"I don't agree with that."

"Umm...you don't agree with what."

"I don't agree that Mr. Jones left the building at 6:13PM on the evening of the 25th."

"Ummm...but we have the building surveillance tapes showing..."

"I don't agree with that."

"You don't agree with what?"

"I don't agree."

"What is the basis of your disagreement?"

"I just don't see it."

"You don't see what?"

"I just don't agree with that."

"What part don't you agree with?"

"You know...the whole thing."

"Sir, may I suggest you take a long walk off a short pier and get back to us?"

"I don't agree with that."

I beg to differ. One man's "facts" are another man's lies. I don't believe a damn thing our Luciferian, Illuminati-controlled puppet Government tells us. Call me a kook, but that's just me.
You're misinterpreting what I meant, anyway. I didn't say "the timeline was wrong", I said that I disagreed with their explaination of events on said timeline. If you look at the timeline (i.e., from time of estimated hijacking until time of impact) you'll see that the previously mentioned chain of command utterly failed to take the proper action to avoid the tragedies of that day. You don't have to believe me on this one, go pick up an '04 (or even '01 if you can find it) edition of the Federal Aviation Regulations and see for yourself. One can compare the timeline of 9/11 to other "out of control/contact aircraft" events within the last few years (check into the Payne Stewart incident for a comparison) and you'll see that the Government had more than enough time to prevent the events of that day.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
I don't agree with what happened because of the official timeline of events of that day. There are Federal Aviation Regulations setup for just such an event (intercepting a plane believed to have been hijacked) and said FARs were in no way followed by the Government/Military/ARTCC/ATC on that day. There was more than enough time to have intercepted those planes, and yet nothing was done about them.

Please list the FAR that deals with intercepting commercial airliners. I have the 2004 copy right here and would like to know what you're talking about. I would also like some proof that they were violated.
 

DOSfan

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I am perplexed on the subject.

On the one hand, I am fairly certain that the people responcible for the hijacking are indeed members of a group that wanted to hit/hurt the US.

On the other hand, I am disturbed by the "leaks" that the CIA and/or the FBI had been infromed by the Isreal inteligence angency (whatever they call themselves) that 9/11 was the likely date for the strike.

Combined with several other "facts" (which I admit may or may not be true) makes me question if the act wasn't allowed to happen.

Of course, allowed to happen just does not equal staged.

So, I vote no. It was not staged.

But I am of an open mind that it was allowed.