Political Parties on the Political Spectrum

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.08

How is it that economic freedom is the only freedom you believe in?

Oh... you probably think money is real.

How is it that lefties like yourself have no problems swindling the rich of 50+% of their tax dollars then get into a huge outrage when the President makes a law such that doctors suggest women alternatives to abortion.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.08

How is it that economic freedom is the only freedom you believe in?

Oh... you probably think money is real.

How is it that lefties like yourself have no problems swindling the rich of 50+% of their tax dollars then get into a huge outrage when the President makes a law such that doctors suggest women alternatives to abortion.

Maybe it's because it's so easy to see that some significant percent of those dollars wouldn't be there if it weren't for the services those taxes provide. Either way, you haven't answered my question at all - you're position is much less tenable than every other free market advocate because you actually don't believe in liberty at all.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari
How is it that lefties like yourself have no problems swindling the rich of 50+% of their tax dollars then get into a huge outrage when the President makes a law such that doctors suggest women alternatives to abortion.

Maybe it's because it's so easy to see that some significant percent of those dollars wouldn't be there if it weren't for the services those taxes provide. Either way, you haven't answered my question at all - you're position is much less tenable than every other free market advocate because you actually don't believe in liberty at all.

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

You scored a +5. You're aware this is a +/- scale right? That's not remotely moderate. You are very much authoritarian, socially speaking, both according to your survey result, and what you post. Why would you pretend otherwise?

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari
How is it that lefties like yourself have no problems swindling the rich of 50+% of their tax dollars then get into a huge outrage when the President makes a law such that doctors suggest women alternatives to abortion.

Maybe it's because it's so easy to see that some significant percent of those dollars wouldn't be there if it weren't for the services those taxes provide. Either way, you haven't answered my question at all - you're position is much less tenable than every other free market advocate because you actually don't believe in liberty at all.

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

I wouldn't consider a 5.08 that moderate. I consider myself pretty libertarian and I got a -5.03. You're pretty deep into authoritarian territory. That's not a place you want to be. Authoritarianism is at odds with the basic ideals of this country.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

You scored a +5. You're aware this is a +/- scale right? That's not remotely moderate. You are very much authoritarian, socially speaking, both according to your survey result, and what you post. Why would you pretend otherwise?

+5 is closer to 0 than many of the scores of people on this forum.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

You scored a +5. You're aware this is a +/- scale right? That's not remotely moderate. You are very much authoritarian, socially speaking, both according to your survey result, and what you post. Why would you pretend otherwise?

+5 is closer to 0 than many of the scores of people on this forum.

But 0 isn't complete freedom. Zero would essentially be banning 50% of social freedoms or somewhere near that.

I personally think it's better if someone's farther negative than if they were very far positive (socially). The more freedom, the better.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

You scored a +5. You're aware this is a +/- scale right? That's not remotely moderate. You are very much authoritarian, socially speaking, both according to your survey result, and what you post. Why would you pretend otherwise?

+5 is closer to 0 than many of the scores of people on this forum.

It's closer than I was, but I have to say, I don't consider RightIsWrong or Todd33 to be socilly moderate, and they scored as close to 0 as you did. You are one of about 3 posters to post a positive socre on social authoritarianism, and the others all scored close to zero - you are WAY out there, and might as well defend that rather than pretend not to be an extremist.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
It's closer than I was, but I have to say, I don't consider RightIsWrong or Todd33 to be socilly moderate, and they scored as close to 0 as you did. You are one of about 3 posters to post a positive socre on social authoritarianism, and the others all scored close to zero - you are WAY out there, and might as well defend that rather than pretend not to be an extremist.

This forum is no indication of moderation or a reflection of the American public. All you're saying is that theres plenty of your brand of extremists around.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

No, I believe in liberty with full responsibilty. No copouts or dumping your problem on the government. I had a very moderate score on the Y axis.

You scored a +5. You're aware this is a +/- scale right? That's not remotely moderate. You are very much authoritarian, socially speaking, both according to your survey result, and what you post. Why would you pretend otherwise?

+5 is closer to 0 than many of the scores of people on this forum.

Shoving someone's legs into the woodchipper is also not shredding them fully. Doesn't mean you aren't hurting them.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
It's closer than I was, but I have to say, I don't consider RightIsWrong or Todd33 to be socilly moderate, and they scored as close to 0 as you did. You are one of about 3 posters to post a positive socre on social authoritarianism, and the others all scored close to zero - you are WAY out there, and might as well defend that rather than pretend not to be an extremist.

This forum is no indication of moderation or a reflection of the American public. All you're saying is that theres plenty of your brand of extremists around.

No, there are plenty of people who are similarly inclined economically as you are, and there are a number of true social moderates.

But I pointed to two other members who scored about as far from 0 as you did, socially, just in the other direction. Do you consider them to be moderates? I don't. I happen to agree with them on more things than I agree with you, but I don't consider myself a social moderate, either.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 5.08

How is it that economic freedom is the only freedom you believe in?

Oh... you probably think money is real.

How is it that lefties like yourself have no problems swindling the rich of 50+% of their tax dollars then get into a huge outrage when the President makes a law such that doctors suggest women alternatives to abortion.

Cause as a doctor, I want to choose what it is that I tell my patients, and not have it be chosen for me by the people who couldn't get into medical school if they sold their soul to the devil.

 

[Stunt]

Economic Left/Right: 6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.95

Very Fiscally Conservative, more Libertarian than Authoritarian.

I'm out with Badnarik 😛

By my calcs I'm a distance of 5.7 from the Liberal Party and 6.3 from the Conservative Party.
Oh well, the Conservatives are still getting my vote! 🙂

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
It's closer than I was, but I have to say, I don't consider RightIsWrong or Todd33 to be socilly moderate, and they scored as close to 0 as you did. You are one of about 3 posters to post a positive socre on social authoritarianism, and the others all scored close to zero - you are WAY out there, and might as well defend that rather than pretend not to be an extremist.

This forum is no indication of moderation or a reflection of the American public. All you're saying is that theres plenty of your brand of extremists around.

No, there are plenty of people who are similarly inclined economically as you are, and there are a number of true social moderates.

But I pointed to two other members who scored about as far from 0 as you did, socially, just in the other direction. Do you consider them to be moderates? I don't. I happen to agree with them on more things than I agree with you, but I don't consider myself a social moderate, either.

Socially they are just as moderate as I am. Of course, looking at the 2 scores together, there are plenty of people with scores like -7,-7 who consider themselves "centrist" in the American public. And of course those individuals arent villified on this forum as extremists. Interesting, isn't it?

President Bush has a similar score as me and was elected with a mandate of 60 million votes. Well I guess the -7,-7 crowd has Drunk Driving Ted Kennedy!

 

[dullard]

Economic: -2.13, Social: -2.15.

Originally posted by: conjur
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

So far, I'm closest to you and MadRat. Which is why I tend to agree with you the most, even though I enjoy pointing out your obvious factual errors.

I think I'm a lot closer to center than most on P&N. That is why I read 100 threads for every one I post in.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
It's closer than I was, but I have to say, I don't consider RightIsWrong or Todd33 to be socilly moderate, and they scored as close to 0 as you did. You are one of about 3 posters to post a positive socre on social authoritarianism, and the others all scored close to zero - you are WAY out there, and might as well defend that rather than pretend not to be an extremist.

This forum is no indication of moderation or a reflection of the American public. All you're saying is that theres plenty of your brand of extremists around.

No, there are plenty of people who are similarly inclined economically as you are, and there are a number of true social moderates.

But I pointed to two other members who scored about as far from 0 as you did, socially, just in the other direction. Do you consider them to be moderates? I don't. I happen to agree with them on more things than I agree with you, but I don't consider myself a social moderate, either.

Socially they are just as moderate as I am. Of course, looking at the 2 scores together, there are plenty of people with scores like -7,-7 who consider themselves "centrist" in the American public. And of course those individuals arent villified on this forum as extremists. Interesting, isn't it?

President Bush has a similar score as me and was elected with a mandate of 60 million votes. Well I guess the -7,-7 crowd has Drunk Driving Ted Kennedy!

I don't consider someone who scores like that to be moderate at all, and neither do you. My score comes up relatively moderate economically, with a small socialist bias (-2) and hardcore social liberal. You come up extreme free market supporter with strong social autoritarian tendencies.

Stop trying to make this about other people - and especially stop trying to make it about 'me' while simultaneously pretending I'm something that I am not.

 

[DVK916]

For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: DVK916
For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

Either you're insane, or you're making a bad joke.

 

[Legend]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916
For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

Either you're insane, or you're making a bad joke.

1. I am not insane
2. It isn't a bad joke.


If you read some of my other post you would know, I am strong supporter of a global unified athoritative socialist state being created.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916
For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

Either you're insane, or you're making a bad joke.

1. I am not insane
2. It isn't a bad joke.

So you're saying Stalin is someone to look up to?

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916
For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

Either you're insane, or you're making a bad joke.

1. I am not insane
2. It isn't a bad joke.

So you're saying Stalin is someone to look up to?

I am saying many of his social and economic goals were good.

 

[OrByte]

-1.5
-2.36

 

[DVK916]

I am shocked no else here seemed to have score like mine. I can't be the only one on ATP&N who supports an Athoritative Socialist style goverment.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: DVK916
For me it is:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.97

This puts me near Stalin. Not bad I think.

Either you're insane, or you're making a bad joke.

1. I am not insane
2. It isn't a bad joke.

So you're saying Stalin is someone to look up to?

I am saying many of his social and economic goals were good.

How so? The Soviet Union fell because of inefficiency. Efficiency is severely lacking in any communist/Stalinist country.

Stalin also wasn't the nicest guy on the planet considering he artificially created a famine and killed millions of his own people.