Political Correctness vs National Security

[Lucky]

Has every murder in the US been commited by an Arab?

Who was responsible for drowning her own kids?

That's the most pregidous pile of crap I've ever heard, I salute you on being the biggest prick in the world.

Since when do any of those have ANYTHING to do with national security? (which was his title!)

Idiot.

 

[Bluefront]

PlatinumGold.....your concern about security is noted. You miss the point about airport screeners. It's not that they're stupid or need more training. The fact is they're following regulations such as: We search every fifth person thoroughly, we're being fair, absolutely no profiling. It's these sort of Politically Correct regulations that allow searching 80 year old women, letting the previous four suspicious people board without a search.

This is what this thread is about....we are wasting our resources on Political Correctness, when we could be solving problems, promoting security.

 

[shiner]

Please refresh my memory, who was responsible for the oklahoma bombings?

It was a disgruntled white guy wacko. That being said there is some evidence that he met with agents from Iraq beforehand.

 

[shiner]

It was somebody talking about how the UN needs to get more into the same mode we (the US) are when it comes to fighting terrorism on a global scale

No the U.N. needs to shut their farking mouths and get the hell out of our country. I have no use for that wishy washy ,brain dead, one world government, socialist, piece of monkey dung U.S. hating organization

 

[PlatinumGold]

No the U.N. needs to shut their farking mouths and get the hell out of our country. I have no use for that wishy washy ,brain dead, one world government, socialist, piece of monkey dung U.S. hating organization

the biggest problem with the UN is they won't let the US just take over.

face it, the US has already conquered the entire world in a way that no superpower has ever done in the past. the only thing keeping the US from actually carrying out any military excercise they deem desireable is self restraint. if Alexander the great ruled the US today, do you think there would be a UN? do you think there would be any opposition in the world at all?

 

[HiveMaster]

Every day Americans suffer new threats. Blown up power plants, contaminated water supplies, Anthrax in US Mail...it goes on and on. We know who pulled off the big one. They're dead but their comrads, friends, are still here. We let them in. We know who they are. They are not citizens, so they don't enjoy all the rights of a US citizen. Which means we can deport them, thereby reducing their threat to National Security.

The reason we have not done this can only be blamed on Political Correctness. I can see no other reason. If you have an enemy whom you can identify in your country and you are at war, you remove that enemy. To me Political Correctness is distroying our National Security.

Wait a minute! I thought it was the fags, the jews, and the liberals who caused the planes to fly into the buildings! Are you saying that the evangelist wackos on TV are wrong and you are right?

Note the word EXTREMIST in all those questions. Christian extremists committed a lot of attrocities. Atheist extremists did too. Both black and white extremists. Asian extremists did too. Let's deport all humans off this planet!

Atheist extremists??? Well, most atheists only disbelieve in god a little. I disbelieve in god a lot! Better blow up a building to prove my point! Please please give me links to prove that there have been "atheist extremist" acts of terrorism.

Please.

Ornery is right. The fact is, most acts of violence against institutions in the country and American interests abroad are conducted under the veil of religious extremism or for some kind of criminal profit. The religious extremists in this country are pretty easy to spot, and should be removed.

 

[UltraQuiet]

The religious extremists in this country are pretty easy to spot, and should be removed

Care to name names or tell me how to spot one of these "religous extremists"?

 

[Red Dawn]

Care to name names or tell me how to spot one of these "religous extremists"?

They usually appear on the 700 club. I don't know how dangerous they are but they sure are annoying.

 

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
If your serious about tightening up national security, why not take further steps and reduce crime in the US altogether. Let's institute a National ID system. Let's put a retinal scan of every individual in a massive database. let's track the movements and the spending patterns of each and every person. let's require cameras in every building built.

oh wait, we're not ready for big brother yet you say.

here is where i must say, I agree with DaveSohmer. it is a question of HOW MUCH FREEDOM your willing to sacrifice for SECURITY.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

 

[Kilgor]

I can see Pat Robertson walking into a Mall and blowing himself up. Most right wing, Religious extremists are probably watched closer by the FBI than anybody else.

 

[Red Dawn]

I can see Pat Robertson walking into a Mall and blowing himself up

I'd pay to seem him do it in an open field!

 

[Mill]

I bet you would. I really wouldn't say I agree with too much of what ole' Pat has to say. On the other hand I don't think there are going to be any christian suicide bombers anytime soon.

 

[JellyBaby]

I'd pay to seem him do it in an open field!

You never know when god calls you to act, Red. Rest assured on that day the 700 Club will be asking for a few million dollars to Spread the Word a bit better than before....or else Pat offs himself. Bah, maybe I'm being too hard on him.

As for the original question, I think PC has an impact on political decision making and it's not a good one. No politican today seems willing to sacrafice his position/power/career if that's what is required to get the job done.

For example, if offing Saddum and installing a new government in Iraq is absolutely necessary, then do it. If it means your party loses in 2004, so be it. What's more important, that or the first nuclear terrorist incident?

 

[Red Dawn]

On the other hand I don't think there are going to be any christian suicide bombers anytime soon.

No they are too busy molesting Altar Boys.

 

[Kilgor]

No they are too busy molesting Altar Boys.

No that's just the Catholics, the Born Agains are too busy fleecing people of their life savings for prayer tissues and holy water.

 

[Red Dawn]

the Born Agains are too busy fleecing people of their life savings for prayer tissues and holy water.

You mean "Boring Again"

 

[Red Dawn]

Well first you get the Muslims because you have the Chrisatians and the Jews to help you. Then you get the Jews because you have the Christians to help you. Then you get the Catholics because your have the Prots to help you. Finally you get the Prots because there is nobody to stop you. Then we will have National Security baby. Not much freedom though.

 

[HiveMaster]

How do we figure out which people to remove from America?

Let's start with the people mentioned here.


Then let's get THIS guy and all of his friends.

After that, let's go after all the people mentioned in here.

And, then we can go after these nice folks.

Problem is, a lot of the people mentioned in these articles break bread with the Bush family. Too bad. Maybe we will have to clean up this political mess--on BOTH sides of the aisle--before we can actually do something about terrorists among us.

 

[shiner]

Problem is, a lot of the people mentioned in these articles break bread with the Bush family. Too bad. Maybe we will have to clean up this political mess--on BOTH sides of the aisle--before we can actually do something about terrorists among us.

And here it comes folks. Our favorite weatherman is at it again. Everyone put on your aluminum hats because the conspiracy ride is about to begin.

If you don't know what I'm talking about go here

 

[HiveMaster]

If you don't know what I'm talking about go here

What? To the AT subscriber page?

Hey, read the articles, man. I am not talking political conspiracy here. I am talking about getting rid of the dirtbags who either cheer on the sidelines when Americans die, or put money in the hands of the killers.

If you have a beef with the articles, take it up with Debbie. SHE wrote them.

 

[Bluefront]

Scary stuff there HiveMaster. I wonder if people here would object to anyone involved with murder, terrorism, etc, being deported if they were not citizens? Well they're here folks. And they do those things. And they advocate even worse things(rivers of blood). And we're sitting back and taking their punishment, all the while knowing who they are. I certainly do not think we lose our freedoms by recognizing our enemies, and doing something about it.

 

[shiner]

What? To the AT subscriber page?

No, to your "This is Freaking Me Out" thread. That way people can see what a true moron you are. If you aren't a subscriber just replace the word subscriber with forums1 in the link.

 

[shiner]

Hey, read the articles, man.

I started reading the articles. Got sick of the extremist blathering in there. I'm a dyed in the wool conservative but people like "Debbie" take things too far.

 

[shifrbv]

All I have to say is if the founding fathers acted like we're acting today concerning threats to this country, this nation would never have been founded. We're almost acting like the British did once they encountered a new style of warfare (guerrilla). We can sit back and hope that they will play by the rules of diplomacy (which will never happen and we'll lose), or we can take the bull by the horns and kick some a$$.

 

[HiveMaster]

I started reading the articles. Got sick of the extremist blathering in there. I'm a dyed in the wool conservative but people like "Debbie" take things too far.

Too far? Hm. A conservative columnist puts her column in a conservative web site...but since what she has to say does not agree with "your" version of reality, you think she takes things too far.

Well, I have never accused you of accepting facts on face value, and I will not start here. Just remember that she has nobody in authority, on either side of the political spectrum, calling her a liar. Because she isn't lying.