Police Video Shows Takedown of Car Owner

[AnonymouseUser]

It would be excessive even if the guy was a car thief.

Not at all, given the propensity of car thieves to run when caught. Again, who immediately gets out of their car when pulled over? Do you? Other than criminals making a break for it, most people don't, and when the cops are suspicious to begin with they act accordingly. The resisting arrest charges are bogus for sure, and should never have been filed, but if anyone thinks this is a race issue they are idiots.

 

[realibrad]

Not at all, given the propensity of car thieves to run when caught. Again, who immediately gets out of their car when pulled over? Do you? Other than criminals making a break for it, most people don't, and when the cops are suspicious to begin with they act accordingly. The resisting arrest charges are bogus for sure, and should never have been filed, but if anyone thinks this is a race issue they are idiots.

Did you miss our whole legal system being built upon the presumption of innocence? Cops are not judges, they are enforcement. Even if 99% ran, it would be wrong to take the guy down unless he did something. You dont take a guy down, hit him and cuff him unless you are sure he has done something to warrant those actions. Being a suspected car thief is not enough.

Also, your line of "who does that" is stupid. What Criminal gets out of a car with his hands up, and does not run or attack? The problem with your line of thinking is the assumption that the actions are inherent to criminals, rather than a civilian that is confused but wants to clear things up. When people are put in a stressful situation that is happening very quickly, they might make mistakes. Ever played a video game and hit a wrong button?

 

[Darwin333]

I find it amazing that the guy can get tackled by 5 freaking cops while having his hands up and not making any threatening actions and the DA decides to accept resisting arrest charges. I've always found it kind of fucked up that you can be charged with resisting arrest when there was absolutely zero reason for you to be arrested in the first place.

 

[Darwin333]

Not at all, given the propensity of car thieves to run when caught. Again, who immediately gets out of their car when pulled over? Do you? Other than criminals making a break for it, most people don't, and when the cops are suspicious to begin with they act accordingly. The resisting arrest charges are bogus for sure, and should never have been filed, but if anyone thinks this is a race issue they are idiots.

What criminal that intends on running gets out of the car, puts his hands up and stands still? I could understand initially thinking he was going to run but that thought should have only lasted a second or two at most. It's pretty clear to anyone with a few brain cells to rub together that the guy was not trying to run, poor bastard was probably trying to prevent exactly what happened to him.

Him being black is probably a huge part of why he acted that way, thinking it was the best way to not get shot or beaten.

 

[K1052]

I find it amazing that the guy can get tackled by 5 freaking cops while having his hands up and not making any threatening actions and the DA decides to accept resisting arrest charges. I've always found it kind of fucked up that you can be charged with resisting arrest when there was absolutely zero reason for you to be arrested in the first place.

That's part of the problem with how the system is set up in the US. If the cops don't think the DA has their back they will be uncooperative in general. Charging people even with crazy shit and ignoring gross misconduct protects them from this outcome.

 

[mrjminer]

I find it amazing that the guy can get tackled by 5 freaking cops while having his hands up and not making any threatening actions and the DA decides to accept resisting arrest charges. I've always found it kind of fucked up that you can be charged with resisting arrest when there was absolutely zero reason for you to be arrested in the first place.

He was clearly resisting them getting him on the ground. His hands were also about to be out of view of the officers when they took him down.

I've always found it kind of fucked up that people refuse to comply with police commands or use basic common sense when dealing with police, then act as though they did nothing wrong.

Would you be OK with someone calling in a trespasser on their neighbor's property, the cops showing up, and it turns out the "trespasser" was actually just the owner who then immediately shoots the cops for trespassing as soon as they step foot on his property? Because, by your logic, the homeowner would be in the right since they wouldn't have had a valid reason to go onto his property after factoring in hindsight.

 

[Darwin333]

He was clearly resisting them getting him on the ground. His hands were also about to be out of view of the officers when they took him down.

Obviously you have never been in any sort of extremely high stress situation. His hands were up until he got rushed and then he took a posture that was purely protective. It is plain instinct to resist being violently thrown to the ground by multiple aggressors, in these kinds of extremely high stress situations fight or flight kicks in and your brain literally takes over your body regardless of what your conscience mind wants it to do. This is a well known and understood phenomenon. Also it's pretty well known that when you have multiple people shouting different things at you during a high stress encounter a lot of people tend to freeze for a moment which is what it appears he did. They never gave him a real chance to comply.

Think of how when you fall and your arms try to brace your fall without any actual thought process taking place. You have resorted to blaming a man for not allowing himself to be violently thrown to the ground, despite the fact that it ended up happening anyway and any rational person would have known that it would, when it is very likely that he had no actual control over it.

I've always found it kind of fucked up that people refuse to comply with police commands or use basic common sense when dealing with police, then act as though they did nothing wrong.

Point in fact, he did do nothing wrong. Even after getting some asshole DA to accept the bullshit charges a judge dismissed them so even the judicial system believes that he did nothing wrong. By all accounts he is one of the "good guys", someone the police are supposed to protect and serve not physically accost and drag him through unwarranted, needless and bullshit criminal charges.

Would you be OK with someone calling in a trespasser on their neighbor's property, the cops showing up, and it turns out the "trespasser" was actually just the owner who then immediately shoots the cops for trespassing as soon as they step foot on his property? Because, by your logic, the homeowner would be in the right since they wouldn't have had a valid reason to go onto his property after factoring in hindsight.

That is an absurd analogy that is unworthy of response.

 

[Thebobo]

He was clearly resisting them tackling getting him to on the ground. His hands were also about to be out of view of the officers when they took him down.
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Are you kidding? "getting him to the ground?" Hell five goons tackled him to the ground. All they had to do was talk to him? Why do they have to be have to be assholes. I swear more and more each day this bullshit comes up and police apologist spin some sort of excuse to weasel out of any culpability.

 

[WelshBloke]

Again, who immediately gets out of their car when pulled over? Do you? Other than criminals making a break for it, most people don't, and when the cops are suspicious to begin with they act accordingly.

I do. Get out of car, walk towards policeman, shake hands, ask what's wrong. Seems like the civilised thing to do!

This is why I don't visit the USA much!

 

[MongGrel]

Now I just wait for agent to jump in and tell me how im actually an uneducated racist and that my post shows it lol.

Thanks though.

This type of stuff really bothers me. I'm not a big government guy, but police is one of the things I think the government needs to do, and shit like this makes it hard to advocate for. This will be turned into a race issue before any facts come out to support or disprove. The discussion will shift from abuse of power, to racism and nothing will change. Kid is making something of himself and this shit does nothing to help.

00f has been annoying lately, but that is a different story.

Is like he's snorting coke or something.

 

[MongGrel]

I do. Get out of car, walk towards policeman, shake hands, ask what's wrong. Seems like the civilised thing to do!

This is why I don't visit the USA much!

Wales sounds better everyday to me.

I'd take you up on the offer to shelter there, but I'm getting older and you'd probably want to shove me into the basement pretty soon.

That might not even sound bad these days, though.

Things are weird this side of the puddle.

 

[WelshBloke]

Wales sounds better everyday to me.

I'd take you up on the offer to shelter there, but I'm getting older and you'd probably want to shove me into the basement pretty soon.

That might not even sound bad these days, though.

You'd hate the weather in Wales!

 

[SNC]

I am always in favor of police using force on the bad guy, AFTER he is found to be the bad guy. This is just pathetic, the fuck throwing the punches should be brought up on charges and made to flip burgers for the rest of his life. THAT is not policing.

 

[MongGrel]

You'd hate the weather in Wales!

I probably would, after living in HI, CA, and FL so long.

Grew up in the midwest, was pretty dreary there most of the time.

I always wanted to it Wales one day, my Grandfather was pretty much my hero growing up and he was Welsh.

Nuff of that, I'm way off topic.

 

[SNC]

Nuff of that, I'm way off topic.

Like that's stopped you before.