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Police Video Shows Takedown of Car Owner

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A passerby saw a black man with a crowbar working on a stopped car. She called police. The police caught the car and pulled the man over. After telling him to get out they tackle him and arrest him for resisting arrest.

The problem, he was the owner of the car. He had been trying to fix his car when the passerby saw him.

When the police told him to get out he got out, put his hands up and stood there at which point they tackled him and hit him.

Oh and if you were wondering what this potentially visicious car thief does for a day job, he's a PHD engineering student at Northwestern specializing in: "nanoparticles and oxide surface interactions for applications in catalysis and energy-related applications."

So much for just do what they say and everything will be ok. Luckily the resisting arrest charge was thrown out.

Police training seems to be lacking in some, many, precincts.
 
I was bullshitting with a friend a the gym about this over how many huge brave cops it takes to subdue the legal and cooperating owner of the car and made a crack that he's probably some PhD Physics student.

In case anyone is wondering Evanston is a well to do inner ring suburb. While it has it's share of bad areas it's not exactly the south side.
 
landing those extra punches while the guy is down...cuz the cop was feeling down about skipping gym that day
 
Who the hell gets out of their car when they are pulled over (besides car thieves)? While the takedown was excessive given the reality of the situation, based on the knowledge the police had at the time it doesn't appear to be. Not seeing anything to be outraged about, TBH.
 
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AnonymouseUser said:
Who the hell gets out of their car when they are pulled over (besides car thieves)? While the takedown was excessive given the reality of the situation, based on the knowledge the police had at the time it doesn't appear to be. Not seeing anything to be outraged about, TBH.
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I disagee. They had no knowledge, preconceived ideas based on someone else's preconceived ideas.

They should have treated it like any other traffic stop.

Kicked off force, no pension no bene's
 
sandorski said:
Systemic Racism is not a thing, Guys.
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Oh come on, one bad apple and you're already saying that all white men punch black people. You SJWs just never stop. You're as bad as feminists, go get a safe space.


C'est parodie! C'EST PARODIE!
 
Yea that was completely uncalled for. A simple command to assume the position looks like it was all that was necessary. He did nothing threatening. To actually try and charge him when their mistake became apparent which it should have immediately once he was IDd is even worse.
 
This is the kind of instance when when they see ID and registration match, they apologize profusely, take some dough out of the petty cash fund, and tell him they are sorry they scuffed up his clothes and whatnot against the pavement.

The guy throwing the punches. Suspended, if its a pattern of behavior, terminate, everybody else needs retraining on de-escalation.

Pretty ridiculous story.
 
Can't have those black people in Evanston, no sir, absolutely not, the rich white housewifes need not see that.

On a more serious note, too many WTFs to describe this situation. Starting from the guy not actually resisting. Maybe not following directions by not getting on the ground, but he was out with his hands up, not resisting in the slightest. Then the take down by FIVE cops. The cop in the red shirt throwing punches while the guy was down on the ground was another gem. Absolutely unnecessary and IMO criminal behavior. If a private citizen did that he would have been charged with assault. And then if I read the story correctly after all of that the poor student was actually prosecuted for resisting arrest and it took a judge to throw the case out. WTF? Got to give props to the student for loudly, legibly, and calmly giving out his personal information to the cops and explaining situation. But then again, the sad thing is, the reason he's doing that is probably because it's not the first time he's been in that situation being discriminated against. Was also sad to hear woman come to realization what she's done and break out practically crying.

Sad situation all around. The cop in the red shirt should definitely be charged with assault, fired, and lose his pension. It's the only way behavior like this will stop.
 
I couldn't make out what the guy was saying. Clearly he didn't follow the immediate instruction to get on the ground. Nonetheless, the fervor that the police officers had just seems ridiculous. The guy has his hands up with no weapon in them. Unless he makes an action toward a weapon, why not talk to him? And I can't really find any reason for punches being thrown.

Amazing that this stuff still happens with dash cams and body cams, etc.

And it also highlights just how much people lack basic respect for each other. Being antagonistic in any way is just a recipe for escalation.
 
interchange said:
I couldn't make out what the guy was saying. Clearly he didn't follow the immediate instruction to get on the ground. Nonetheless, the fervor that the police officers had just seems ridiculous. The guy has his hands up with no weapon in them. Unless he makes an action toward a weapon, why not talk to him? And I can't really find any reason for punches being thrown.

Amazing that this stuff still happens with dash cams and body cams, etc.

And it also highlights just how much people lack basic respect for each other. Being antagonistic in any way is just a recipe for escalation.
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Respect for each other, are you kidding? He showed no disrespect towards the cops. This highlights how much authority corrupts especially when all you get is a slap on the wrist for doing this kind of crap. Look 5 cops jumped on a guy standing with his arms up and you have the gall to say the guy getting beat up is not respecting the cops lol. They all should be fired and I hope he sues the everloving shit out this police department.
 
Cops are pretty much a gang of violent tax collectors with guns.

Nonetheless, the corrupt police union will rush to the defense, even for the officer punching the young man, and argue profusely against any suspensions, terminations, or loss of pension or benefits.

Disgusting.
 
AnonymouseUser said:
Who the hell gets out of their car when they are pulled over (besides car thieves)? While the takedown was excessive given the reality of the situation, based on the knowledge the police had at the time it doesn't appear to be. Not seeing anything to be outraged about, TBH.
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It would be excessive even if the guy was a car thief. He was not running, or doing anything that would require the cops to act beyond first getting information. Force would be reasonable if he were trying to fight or run, but he got out with his hands up and stood there. The information they had at the time was that a guy was trying to break into a car.

The outrage is how quickly the cops were to take the guy to the ground, and hit him before finding out what the situation was. Its the cop's job to find out if things are as they appear. Its why we have the presumption of innocence. While I doubt this was about race, your stance is stupid. Taking the guy down, hitting him, and hand cuffing him before knowing what was going on is an infringement on the 4th amendment, which is a damn fucking important amendment.
 
realibrad said:
It would be excessive even if the guy was a car thief. He was not running, or doing anything that would require the cops to act beyond first getting information. Force would be reasonable if he were trying to fight or run, but he got out with his hands up and stood there. The information they had at the time was that a guy was trying to break into a car.

The outrage is how quickly the cops were to take the guy to the ground, and hit him before finding out what the situation was. Its the cop's job to find out if things are as they appear. Its why we have the presumption of innocence. While I doubt this was about race, your stance is stupid. Taking the guy down, hitting him, and hand cuffing him before knowing what was going on is an infringement on the 4th amendment, which is a damn fucking important amendment.
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Well said.
 
Thebobo said:
Well said.
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Now I just wait for agent to jump in and tell me how im actually an uneducated racist and that my post shows it lol.

Thanks though.

This type of stuff really bothers me. I'm not a big government guy, but police is one of the things I think the government needs to do, and shit like this makes it hard to advocate for. This will be turned into a race issue before any facts come out to support or disprove. The discussion will shift from abuse of power, to racism and nothing will change. Kid is making something of himself and this shit does nothing to help.
 
interchange said:
Amazing that this stuff still happens with dash cams and body cams, etc.
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And it will keep on happening as long as officers face no consequences for their actions. If you watch the video one of the cops is warning the student on the ground that he is being video taped. Think about it. They see absolutely nothing wrong in what they're doing, in their minds the tape can only exonerate them and can only prove suspect's guilt. Remember, this case was actually brought to trial on charges of resisting arrest.
 
I hope that the ACLU smokes them good along with the DOJ. No investigative work whatsoever involved with this blatant use of force by badged Cro-Magnons.
 
Well this guy can now drop out of college and start living off the multi million dollar settlement he will certainly be getting. Lucky guy!
 
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