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Police shootout

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Agentbolt

Diamond Member
Cop gets shot, another one stabbed

I heard gunfire today at around 3 my time, it sounded far away though so I kind of ignored it. An hour later 3 uniforms knock on my door and start questioning me about what I heard/saw, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
yikes. do you live in a moderate crime area or is that a fluke?
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This appears to be a fluke, there's no drug problem here as far as I'm aware or anything. It's a townhouse complex so there are some uh, lower-income type familys, so domestic disturbance calls aren't unheard of.

This is definitely the first time anything like this has happened, however.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
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I'd go about your business as normal, you didn't do anything so you aren't legally confined to your home.

And that sucks the punk didn't get killed.
 
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
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I'd go about your business as normal, you didn't do nothing so you aren't legally confined to your home.

And that sucks the punk didn't get killed.
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I'm a witness to a police shooting, at least as far as they're concerned. I'm not going anywhere. I was told this in no uncertain terms.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
I'm a witness to a police shooting, at least as far as they're concerned. I'm not going anywhere. I was told this in no uncertain terms.
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Tell them it's only a cop, and go about your business.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
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I'd go about your business as normal, you didn't do nothing so you aren't legally confined to your home.

And that sucks the punk didn't get killed.
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I'm a witness to a police shooting, at least as far as they're concerned. I'm not going anywhere. I was told this in no uncertain terms.
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You aren't a witness, give them a business card or contact info, and be done with it.
 
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
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I'd go about your business as normal, you didn't do nothing so you aren't legally confined to your home.

And that sucks the punk didn't get killed.
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I'm a witness to a police shooting, at least as far as they're concerned. I'm not going anywhere. I was told this in no uncertain terms.
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You aren't a witness, give them a business card or contact info, and be done with it.
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Yeah, see, they're not in agreement with you. I am, absolutely, but I don't really feel like being arrested for obstruction of justice or whatever other ridiculous charge they'd come up with if I just tried to leave.

I could give two craps about the cop OR the dude who got shot, I just want to go grocery shopping sometime in the forseable future. Things work a little differently when it's one of their own who got shot.
 
Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Yeah, see, they're not in agreement with you. I am, absolutely, but I don't really feel like being arrested for obstruction of justice or whatever other ridiculous charge they'd come up with if I just tried to leave.

I could give two craps about the cop OR the dude who got shot, I just want to go grocery shopping sometime in the forseable future. Things work a little differently when it's one of their own who got shot.
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They still outside? If not, then leave, how would you know if they are ever going to get back to you to tell you that you can leave. If they are, and you need to leave, go out there tell them you gotta go and if they need you, to call you on your cell. Give them a beer, to break the ice. 😛
 
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Yeah, see, they're not in agreement with you. I am, absolutely, but I don't really feel like being arrested for obstruction of justice or whatever other ridiculous charge they'd come up with if I just tried to leave.

I could give two craps about the cop OR the dude who got shot, I just want to go grocery shopping sometime in the forseable future. Things work a little differently when it's one of their own who got shot.
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They still outside? If not, then leave, how would you know if they are ever going to get back to you to tell you that you can leave. If they are, and you need to leave, go out there tell them you gotta go and if they need you, to call you on your cell. Give them a beer, to break the ice. 😛
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Dunno about the beer, but that's reasonable. I'm no expert, but I seriously doubt that they have any legal right to "detain" (for lack of a better word) you on the off chance that you saw something without a court document.
 
Don't volunteer any information to the officers. Their job right now is to get a suspect in their custody; they don't care if that's you or the guys who actually did this.

Keep your mouth shut, don't invite them into your home, provide basic information (name, contact info, whereabouts) and nothing else. Do not give them consent to do ANYTHING regarding you or your property.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't volunteer any information to the officers. Their job right now is to get a suspect in their custody; they don't care if that's you or the guys who actually did this.

Keep your mouth shut, don't invite them into your home, provide basic information (name, contact info, whereabouts) and nothing else. Do not give them consent to do ANYTHING regarding you or your property.
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
, and have told me I'm not allowed to leave my house until a detective comes over to question me further.

So now I'm stuck here for what's likely to be another few hours at least. FWIW, nobody got killed.
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I'd go about your business as normal, you didn't do nothing so you aren't legally confined to your home.

And that sucks the punk didn't get killed.
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I'm a witness to a police shooting, at least as far as they're concerned. I'm not going anywhere. I was told this in no uncertain terms.
Click to expand...

You aren't a witness, give them a business card or contact info, and be done with it.
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Yeah, see, they're not in agreement with you. I am, absolutely, but I don't really feel like being arrested for obstruction of justice or whatever other ridiculous charge they'd come up with if I just tried to leave.

I could give two craps about the cop OR the dude who got shot, I just want to go grocery shopping sometime in the forseable future. Things work a little differently when it's one of their own who got shot.
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If you know any lawyer friends, now is the time to call them. Hell, hiring one now might save you a ton of trouble that could potentially come from this. Whenever you are talking with the cops, you want to have someone at your side who makes sure you say everything absolutely correct. One misstep on your end could end making you look like an accomplice.

As the other posters said, don't comply with the officer's request for an interview until you have consulted with and have a lawyer present. You don't have to legally talk with them and they can and WILL use everything you say against you. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't volunteer any information to the officers. Their job right now is to get a suspect in their custody; they don't care if that's you or the guys who actually did this.

Keep your mouth shut, don't invite them into your home, provide basic information (name, contact info, whereabouts) and nothing else. Do not give them consent to do ANYTHING regarding you or your property.
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The lengths to which you go to bash the police are incredible. They already have the guy in custody.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't volunteer any information to the officers. Their job right now is to get a suspect in their custody; they don't care if that's you or the guys who actually did this.

Keep your mouth shut, don't invite them into your home, provide basic information (name, contact info, whereabouts) and nothing else. Do not give them consent to do ANYTHING regarding you or your property.
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Are you literally out of your fucking mind? That's the single dumbest thing that I've read ever, period.

They've already made an arrest, and guess what, the OP is a witness. Just hearing gunshots does in fact make you a witness. Even seeing or hearing NOTHING can in fact make you a witness.
 
Abuse of power FTL. They have no right to keep/hold you anywhere unless you are being arrested or charged with anything. If you truly were a witness (which it doesn't seem like you are in the truest sense), then the proper contact information should suffice until you set up an interview with them to give your account. It is one thing for them to ask you as a citizen to wait around for a bit (a common courtesy), but do not let this interfere with your job/family. A line has to be drawn somewhere.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Don't volunteer any information to the officers. Their job right now is to get a suspect in their custody; they don't care if that's you or the guys who actually did this.

Keep your mouth shut, don't invite them into your home, provide basic information (name, contact info, whereabouts) and nothing else. Do not give them consent to do ANYTHING regarding you or your property.
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Are you literally out of your fucking mind? That's the single dumbest thing that I've read ever, period.

They've already made an arrest, and guess what, the OP is a witness. Just hearing gunshots does in fact make you a witness. Even seeing or hearing NOTHING can in fact make you a witness.
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The second paragraph may be true, however, in these situations it is always wise to be vigilant that they do not try to violate any of your civil liberties. Being cautious is only prudent in these situations. Just don't take it to an extreme. If they didn't get anything to stick to the person whom they arrested, then YOU could become a suspect through no fault of your own. Remember, it is one of their own. Things won't work exactly the same way as for any other homicide as they are emotionally involved, it being one of their own and all.
 
Still fucking stuck here. It's been 6 hours.

To give some further info, the guy who shot the cop was already arrested, while fleeing. He shot at the cops while running. There is absoutely 0% chance I could ever get blamed for this. Also, there's no less than 6 uniforms still prowling around outside my house, shining flashlights at the ground looking for God knows what. I've tried to leave once already (grocery store is within walking distance, there's police tape up around my driveway so I can't drive out) and was told the place is "locked down" and I need to wait until I'm told I can leave.

I'm not trying to give any cops a hard time here, but this is fucking ridiculous. I'm not a witness, I didn't see a single thing, and there's nothing useful I can add to this investigation. At 9 my time I'm leaving, if they want to arrest me for it, fine. It'll make an interesting story to link to for ATOT.
 
Originally posted by: MovingTarget

The second paragraph may be true, however, in these situations it is always wise to be vigilant that they do not try to violate any of your civil liberties. Being cautious is only prudent in these situations. Just don't take it to an extreme. If they didn't get anything to stick to the person whom they arrested, then YOU could become a suspect through no fault of your own. Remember, it is one of their own. Things won't work exactly the same way as for any other homicide as they are emotionally involved, it being one of their own and all.
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You guys watch to much television. This is cracking me up.
 
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