Police Officers unloads bullets right into the K-9 Dog

[Fern]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Jahee
why did they even fire at the man in the first place, he didnt make any sudden movements or anything i dont understand...

that is what i was trying to understand. WTF did they even start fireing.

Yeah, looks like some cop(s) got reeaaal trigger happy. :thumbsdown:

Some serious disciplinary actions are due in this case.

Fern

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Twista
The guy threw the gun before the dog was shot it looks like. Shame.

well a whole bunch of cops need more/better training. there is no excuse for that happening.

Seriously, the dude didn't make any sudden movement. To have released the dog (and especially if they just dropped the leash) as well as taken the shots prematurely (from what I could see) is totally inexcusable.

Perhaps the audio sync issues are confusing you, but the shooting starts immediately after the guy made a sudden movement with the gun toward the police. We can see now that he made that movement to throw the gun on the ground (apparantly because the dog was coming at him), but the police didn't have much time to decide whether to shoot or possibly be shot.

Is that what that pause was at the beginning? I thought it was probably just me and my computer hicupping or something...but you're right, I couldn't exactly tell. That would make more sense, but Jesus H! Where'd they think the dog was going to run if they released it? And still...that's really poor judgement.

 

[Chrono]

Poor doggy.

 

[The Green Bean]

Who cares about the fcking dog? WTF did they kill the man?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

Hah! It's this level of thinking that's going to kill us all someday soon I'm afraid. Sacrosanct my ass.

You care more about your close relatives than you do about total strangers. Why shouldn't you apply this same logic to your species?

 

[tomywishbone]

That's exactly the type of thing you'd expect, when you give cowards-thugs-cops guns and turn them lose. Totally predictable.

Most unfortunate about the dog.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: yllus
Well - I have nothing against dogs, cats or other domesticated pets, and I don't want to derail this thread down that path - but I am feel obligated to say that the idea of equating the death of a police dog to a police officer is really, really dumb.

There are two types of life on this Earth: Human and other. Human life is sacrosanct. The other we routinely kill, torture and maim according to how cute they are and how good they taste. I refuse the thought of taking that level of arbitrary decisionmaking and turning it into law.

Hah! It's this level of thinking that's going to kill us all someday soon I'm afraid. Sacrosanct my ass.

You care more about your close relatives than you do about total strangers. Why shouldn't you apply this same logic to your species?

If we would not kill, we would not survive. Even vegetables are living things.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: randay
I dont wanna watch it, but what happens? dog goes after perp, perp throws gun away, cops wtf perp with bullets and also hit dog who is doing its job???

Yeah, I'm not going to watch that either.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: So
Small shame about the dog, but WTF guys? Nobody cares that the cops gunned down an unarmed human? Seriously, WTF?

thats what i was thinking

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

Does it bother anyone that the guy was still moving after being shot. The cops just sat there and cussed at each other. No one went up to secure him while the medics came.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Beachboy

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

That's not true. I've seen video of a trained police dog. The dog would run at the criminal and as soon as the criminal surrendered the dog would yield. Often the dog doesn't even have to attack, just the site of a big dog running at you is enough to subdue some criminals.

yeap seen that on cops a few times.

usually its the dog attacks the cop comes up and yells something to the dog. the dog lets go and they kick the guy a few times.


this was a cluster fvck. every one of those cops need a re-training sesson.

I saw something on TV just this week, some kind of contest for trained dogs. The dog's trainer was removed, and the dog was given a basket to protect. Then another human tested the dogs training. He would come up and try and take the basket, the dogs job was to protect the basket. They judged the dog on how well it reacted to the humans advances, and if it returned to the basket to continue its job after fending off the human. There was also rules like the dog was supposed to let go within 5 seconds of biting and show just the right amount of aggressiveness when the human approached. Keep in mind the trainer was not instructing the dog at all. In the end the human failed and the dogs only screw up was that it didnt react when the human put the tip of his shoe on the basket. pretty impressive.

 

[HyTekJosh]

Where did this crap happen? Poor dog.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: So
Small shame about the dog, but WTF guys? Nobody cares that the cops gunned down an unarmed human? Seriously, WTF?

thats what i was thinking

i have no sympathy for a criminal getting shot while committing a crime. The dog on the other hand, was just doing it's job.

 

[goodoptics]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Does it bother anyone that the guy was still moving after being shot. The cops just sat there and cussed at each other. No one went up to secure him while the medics came.

I caught that, too. The video was 2 min. long. Suspect and dog went down at the 30 sec. mark. By the end of the video, you have yet to see any cops went up to check on them. :roll:

 

[brxndxn]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: yllus
lol, I'm pretty sure it's not a murder charge. Maybe something like assaulting an officer though.

My understanding was a police dog is treated as a full police officer. If you kill a police dog, you should be charged with murdering an officer of the law. End of story.

That's bullsh1t.. The whole point of using dogs for attacking is that they're more expendable than humans. I'm worth more than a dog... maybe you don't think you are.. but I sure as hell feel like I'm worth more than a dog.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: brxndxn

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: yllus
lol, I'm pretty sure it's not a murder charge. Maybe something like assaulting an officer though.

My understanding was a police dog is treated as a full police officer. If you kill a police dog, you should be charged with murdering an officer of the law. End of story.

That's bullsh1t.. The whole point of using dogs for attacking is that they're more expendable than humans. I'm worth more than a dog... maybe you don't think you are.. but I sure as hell feel like I'm worth more than a dog.

:thumbsup:

 

[WhiteKnight]

Originally posted by: goodoptics

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
Does it bother anyone that the guy was still moving after being shot. The cops just sat there and cussed at each other. No one went up to secure him while the medics came.

I caught that, too. The video was 2 min. long. Suspect and dog went down at the 30 sec. mark. By the end of the video, you have yet to see any cops went up to check on them. :roll:

Seriously, the guy was still moving and they don't even bother checking him? Not that he had much chance of survival anyway, but WTF?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It's sad that the dog was shot, but you guys want to press murder charges?! A dog is a dog, not a human.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Twista
http://www.flurl.com/item/Poor_Dog_u_197612

Holy crap... dumb cops or what?

Prob. a repost :/

The page cannot be found

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
It's sad that the dog was shot, but you guys want to press murder charges?! A dog is a dog, not a human.

Well, considering it's the cops that did the shooting, I don't think anyone will be charged with anything like that.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: yllus
lol, I'm pretty sure it's not a murder charge. Maybe something like assaulting an officer though.

My understanding was a police dog is treated as a full police officer. If you kill a police dog, you should be charged with murdering an officer of the law. End of story.

Boy, you people have a really strange vision of how the law works. Killing a dog is not, under any circumstances, treated the same as killing a human being, and it certainly isn't murder.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: So
Small shame about the dog, but WTF guys? Nobody cares that the cops gunned down an unarmed human? Seriously, WTF?

thats what i was thinking

i have no sympathy for a criminal getting shot while committing a crime. The dog on the other hand, was just doing it's job.

We don't know what his crime was and he surrendered his weapon. Yes, people absolutely have the right to defend themselves, but even the police don't have the right to shoot anyone just because they were committing a crime.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: yllus
lol, I'm pretty sure it's not a murder charge. Maybe something like assaulting an officer though.

My understanding was a police dog is treated as a full police officer. If you kill a police dog, you should be charged with murdering an officer of the law. End of story.

Boy, you people have a really strange vision of how the law works. Killing a dog is not, under any circumstances, treated the same as killing a human being, and it certainly isn't murder.

I'm pretty sure there's a separate charge for assaulting a police dog. I've seen it listed somewhere before (either on an actual rap sheet for an individual, or on a list of charges and their associated punishments), and the repercussions, I believe, were somewhat similar to manslaughter, or possibly a bit less.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
It's sad that the dog was shot, but you guys want to press murder charges?! A dog is a dog, not a human.

While I agree that a dog isn't a human, it's a police dog. In the eyes of the law, a police dog is a police officer. Kill a police dog is tantamount to killing a police officer.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Beachboy

They mostly teach the dogs to be vicious and bite with no command for "stop"(not one that works anyway, dog owners know what I mean) they simply pull the dog off the perp after he is being mauled.

That's not true. I've seen video of a trained police dog. The dog would run at the criminal and as soon as the criminal surrendered the dog would yield. Often the dog doesn't even have to attack, just the site of a big dog running at you is enough to subdue some criminals.

QFT. I don't see where he getting his info that there's no effective command for "stop". As a previous dog owner and someone who's trained animals (including German Shepards)...no I do not know what you mean. Perhaps you should spend more time training your dog(s) if you're an owner.

There was a great show on Discovery, K-9 Bootcamp. Give it a watch and educate yourself.

A dog working in the field versus one in training are two entirely different scenarios. How is the dog supposed to hear the commands over the gunfire?